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Girl Banned From Prom For Smoking Away From School
www.thekansascitychannel.com ^ | March 31, 2004

Posted on 04/01/2004 11:26:18 AM PST by Freedom2specul8

GRAND FORKS, N.D. -- Leona Fitzpatrick is going to court -- in order to go to the senior prom.

She's been barred from her prom for smoking -- and not even on school grounds. The Hillsboro, N.D., School Board has rules against students using alcohol, tobacco or drugs.

Students can be kicked out of extracurricular activities for violating the no-smoking rule. Now, Leona is seeking a court order so she can go to the dance. Her parents point out that she's 18 and legally allowed to smoke in North Dakota.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kansas; US: Missouri; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: antismoking; constitution; education; highschool; ignorance; liberals; privacy; pufflist; schoolboards; smoking; smokingbans; zerotolerance
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To: tx_eggman
"Welcome to Hillsboro," he said. "Set your watch back 500 years."

It might be more accurate to say, "Welcome to Hillsboro, set your watch ahead 10 years."

101 posted on 04/01/2004 12:09:27 PM PST by Ken H
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To: tx_eggman
If the school feels that it can ban its students from doing things on their own time which they are legally entitled to do, does it also ban them from owning pornography?

If they really want to protect students, they should create a rule banning them from engaging in homosexual acts.
102 posted on 04/01/2004 12:10:08 PM PST by victoryatallcosts
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To: excalibur1701
No....I just don't think we are getting the entire story on this. As we are often reminded on this site, the liberal media has a way of slanting storys.

Except that the liberal media is unlikely to slant a story to make a liberal school board look bad. And it is consistent with every drunk-with-power zero-tolerance school idiocy we see all the time. And you didn't start by questioning the facts, you just essentially said "Hey, she broke the rule, ban her."

If they had a rule against Jews attending prom, would you support that?

103 posted on 04/01/2004 12:10:11 PM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: excalibur1701
I'm amazed at how many people think it's ok for this kid to be smoking at such a young age.

Please name the ones who have done that. Thank you

BTW, 18 is good enough for those who make the laws, so maybe you better get to work on your elected officials to up the age.

104 posted on 04/01/2004 12:10:40 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
School boards can't even control what's going on in their schools.

Wonder if a school board would ever have the guts to punish a girl for getting pregnant.

105 posted on 04/01/2004 12:10:40 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (John Kerry is the Democrat's Bob Dole)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
School boards can't even control what's going on in their schools.

Wonder if a school board would ever have the guts to punish a girl for getting pregnant.

106 posted on 04/01/2004 12:10:56 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (John Kerry is the Democrat's Bob Dole)
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To: excalibur1701
What part of 'no controlling legal authority' don't you understand?
107 posted on 04/01/2004 12:11:08 PM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
big deal. My son's Catholic high school does the same thing.
108 posted on 04/01/2004 12:11:38 PM PST by Temple Drake
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To: tx_eggman
Thanks! I went to that website on a link from google, and couldn't find anything other than what was said in the article I posted. Here's the one I found. click
109 posted on 04/01/2004 12:12:28 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: d-back
Smoker's rights ping.
110 posted on 04/01/2004 12:12:44 PM PST by NJ Freeper
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To: MegaSilver
That's exactly what you've got, a police state. Courtesy of our education bureaucrats.
111 posted on 04/01/2004 12:13:04 PM PST by ampat (to)
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To: excalibur1701
Ex, you're about to be run over by George Soros and his merry band of druggies. Take cover! Take cover!
112 posted on 04/01/2004 12:13:23 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (John Kerry is the Democrat's Bob Dole)
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To: vollmond
They have to have the ability to make 18 year olds follow the same rules as 17 year olds, otherwise they'll have chaos.

Legally, they don't have that ability. For example, 18 year-olds can write their own sick notes and don't need permission slips for school trips. Also, the school has no power to even make the 18 year-old go to school.

113 posted on 04/01/2004 12:15:16 PM PST by Modernman (Chthulhu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: excalibur1701
excalibur1701

Open your eyes up for me for just a minute, would you buddy?

Now, answer me this .... is there any light way up there inside your rectum?
114 posted on 04/01/2004 12:15:18 PM PST by tx_eggman (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit softly. Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: Sloth; Gabz
You can post any rules you want to. The law says differently. If it is legal to smoke at 18 the law says you can smoke, off campus. Man, I graduated in 72, and we all smoked on campus.
115 posted on 04/01/2004 12:15:45 PM PST by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Boston.Idaho.Virginia.Georgetown.France. Cape Cod!!)
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To: Skooz
"In Jr. High School, my football coach cut our nose tackle because he saw him smoking somewhere off campus. I guess that didn't merit a blithering newspaper article in 1973."

I'd say the only reason this is mentioned is because it went to court. On the other hand..while smoking is obviously unhealthy...especially for athletes..I think it's wrong he got kicked off the team. Did the rules say that he could be kicked off if deemed a smoker?

116 posted on 04/01/2004 12:15:48 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Sunshine Sister
They don't really have the right on school grounds.
117 posted on 04/01/2004 12:16:00 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: Sunshine Sister
Legal? Are you kidding? Smoking is eeevvillll! Legality has nothing to do with it. Did the so called Justice Department not spend years and millions of dollars in extracting from the legal industry known as tobacco billions of dollars in fines, etc.?
118 posted on 04/01/2004 12:17:08 PM PST by rootntootn
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To: markv840
That's ridiculous, no one should be punished for how they live their lives outside school grounds.

So your stand on openly homosexual teachers is....?

119 posted on 04/01/2004 12:17:20 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
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To: Temple Drake
My son's Catholic high school does the same thing.

Private schools can set any sort of arbitrary rule they like. They're private, they are funded privately, and their authority to set rules for after school activities, even on adults stems from private property rights, not "en loco parentis".

"En loco parentis" does not apply in the least to an adult off school grounds. Therefore the public school has no controlling legal authority in this case.

Apples and oranges.

120 posted on 04/01/2004 12:17:30 PM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
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