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Kids in same sex marriages need help (Barf Alert)
The Detroit News ^ | 10/27/03 | Deb Price

Posted on 10/27/2003 8:39:18 AM PST by LiberalSlayer99

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:09:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: concerned about politics
Are you from Sodom California?

Spent two years in college there, actually. I live in Virginia but I'm from Florida.

The whole bi-curious woman thing is pretty common these days among younger women, I'd say.

41 posted on 10/27/2003 10:26:57 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: hunter112
"Whether or not we believe that the parents are good or evil, should the kids suffer? Are they not blameless for the conditions of their conception, birth, and upbringing?"

You have a good heart, hunter, and I for one would never advocate that the "kids suffer." But homosexual households are not optimum for child-rearing. The same for households in vermin-infested inner cities or in backwater Georgia or Oklahoma -- pick your steretype.

So ... when intervention is indicated (meaning the only legal guardian dies) in one of these non-optimum situations, the Gov't should get involved. A birth mother passes away and the second "mom" is not a legal guardian. Tough. The child goes to the grandparents or a foster home. That's what would happen in a heterosexual situation. They would not give the child automatically to the live-in man even if he professed love for the child.

The kids are blameless but unfortunately sometimes the state has to make decisions about the kid's fate if the parents have failed or disaster has struck. And that decision should not default to placing the child with the parent's latest "lover."

42 posted on 10/27/2003 10:28:57 AM PST by tom h
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To: Modernman; ArGee; Clint N. Suhks; lentulusgracchus; scripter; John O; L.N. Smithee; Kevin Curry; ...
The homosexual community's biggest victory was scored when when they infiltrated the A.P.A and, through political pressure, got homosexuality removed from the DSM.

An excerpt from "The A.P.A. Normalization of Homosexuality, and the Research Study of Irving Bieber":

Dr. Bieber was one of the key participants in the historical debate which culminated in the 1973 decision to remove homosexuality from the psychiatric manual.

His paper describes psychiatry's attempt to adopt a new "adaptational" perspective of normality. During this time, the profession was beginning to sever itself from established clinical theory--particularly psychoanalytic theories of unconscious motivation--claiming that if we do not readily see "distress, disability and disadvantage" in a particular psychological condition, then the condition is not disordered...

"Dr. Bieber describes the deletion of homosexuality from the American Psychiatric Association's diagnostic and statistical manual as "the climax of a sociopolitical struggle involving what were deemed to be the rights of homosexuals."

"It is my aim here," he wrote, "to separate out the psychiatric and conceptual issues from the sociopolitical issues; to document my own theoretical and clinical position; and to describe the events that I participated in and observed--all of which I trust will bring into focus the elements that went into the American Psychiatric Association's decision..."

Gay activist groups believed that prejudice against homosexuals could be extinguished only if, as homosexuals, they were accepted as normal. "They claimed that homosexuality is a preference, an orientation, a propensity; that it is neither a defect, a disturbance, a sickness, nor a malfunction of any sort." To promote this aim, Dr. Bieber reports, "Gay activists impugned the motives and ridiculed the work of those psychiatrists who asserted that homosexuality is other than normal..."


Removal of homosexuality as a disorder from the DSM was the first step in the homosexual community's well planned, well funded propaganda campaign - a campaign that has been going on for years.

The Overhauling of Straight America

The Homosexual Propaganda and Media Manipulation Game

43 posted on 10/27/2003 10:35:54 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: Modernman
Are you from Sodom California?

Spent two years in college there, actually.

I guess that could explain it. Have you tried talking with an exorcist?

44 posted on 10/27/2003 10:39:39 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: concerned about politics
I guess that could explain it. Have you tried talking with an exorcist?

Huh? I went to USC, which is a pretty conservative place, though it's a pretty much anything-goes type place when it comes to partying. If it wasn't for the taxes, I'd think seriously about living in California.

Anyway, these days, it's pretty tough to get the Vatican to agree to do an exorcism.

45 posted on 10/27/2003 10:49:06 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: Modernman
Two people of the same sex wanting to live together and copulate together as if they were male and female, need to work on curing their obvious illness, before being viewed as mature and mentally stable enough to parent children.

How can bent people raise a straight child. The kid needs to be with his own kind.
46 posted on 10/27/2003 10:54:32 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Democrats don't mean centerist as in the center of the road,but as in center of donuts or washers.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
"If she can't be controled, she must be stopped." (Refering to Laura Schlessinger)

With that one chillingly honest sentance, Joan Garry, the executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), reveiled more than she intended about the agenda of her organization.
You VILL comply, or be destroyed!!

47 posted on 10/27/2003 11:07:04 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
How can bent people raise a straight child. The kid needs to be with his own kind.

Depends on whether you believe homosexuality is a result of nature or nurture. I tend to believe that homosexuality is genetic, rather than learned. So, you couldn't turn kids gay.

Of course, my observation that bi-sexuality seems to be becoming more prevalent among women goes against my point here.

48 posted on 10/27/2003 11:07:47 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: Modernman
Control the image and control the culture - You're obeying the thought police in news and entertainment.
1% of the population is homosexually perverse. The other 99% don't want it in their own back yard. Welcome to the real world.
49 posted on 10/27/2003 11:12:09 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: concerned about politics
Have you ever looked into the eyes of a homosexual? .... lusting for a sexual satisfaction they'll never find.

Yup. My son's godfather. That which you describe isn't there.

50 posted on 10/27/2003 11:12:18 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
Yup. My son's godfather. That which you describe isn't there.

You're letting a homosexual man be your own sons godfather? OMG. That's taking one hell of a chance with your sons life.
I would never set my sons up for a life like that! I love my children too much.

51 posted on 10/27/2003 11:16:46 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: LiberalSlayer99
Camille Caracappa, Eva Kadrey and their toddler, Nic, had created an idyllic life.

I could tell from the first line this is a work of fiction.

52 posted on 10/27/2003 11:18:00 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: concerned about politics
You're letting a homosexual man be your own sons godfather? OMG. That's taking one hell of a chance with your sons life.

No, I'm not taking a chance. I know the man; I trust him.

When my son was born, my wife and I chose our two best friends as Godparents. The godmother is Southern Baptist. (My wife and I are Jewish; the mohel was... befuddled.)

53 posted on 10/27/2003 11:20:05 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: LiberalSlayer99
The family's catastrophe

What family are they talking about. The article is about a lesbian, her son and her live in lesbian lover. The lover dies. So what, she wasn't part of the family

Yet breadwinner Camille was in every way Nic's parent -- from participating in "huffing and puffing" childbirth classes, as Eva calls them, to declaring him as a dependent on her income taxes.

If she didn't contribute the sperm then she's not the parent (seeing as Eva contributed the egg)

Eva was "totally offended and hurt" by the ruling. "We planned him together, he has (Camille's) last name, and we baptized him Catholic because it was important to Camille and her family."

But Camille wasn't Cathoilic, she was 'gay'. These are mutually exclusive concepts.

An appeal filed on Nic's behalf spotlights the indefensible hole in society's safety net -- a gap that lets children who happen to have same-sex parents fall through.

No child has same-sex parents. It is a biological impossibility.

54 posted on 10/27/2003 11:23:14 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Modernman
Gay adoption is an issue I'm torn on. I think it's one of those things we shouldn't be encouraging, but if a gay couple meets all of the other criteria, I don't see any real reason to keep them from adopting.

The mere fact that they are practicing sexual perversity is enough to disqualify them.

A child needs a father and a mother in order to grow up correctly. Two mothers or two fathers will result in a twisted child.

The first and third laws of homosexuality apply

55 posted on 10/27/2003 11:25:17 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: concerned about politics
The other 99% don't want it in their own back yard. Welcome to the real world.

Define backyard. I would wager that 99% of us know a gay person, live near them, work with them etc. Most people really don't really care that much about homosexuality, one way or the other.

56 posted on 10/27/2003 11:26:48 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: concerned about politics
In my opinion, keeping all children away from the sexually dysfunctional is the better idea. Otherwise, the childrens developement, as well as their physical bodies, are at risk. One child molested by a homosexual devient is one too many. One child taught this horrable life of dispare is way too many.

The third law of homosexuality:

Any exposure of children to homosexual behavior is child abuse

57 posted on 10/27/2003 11:27:10 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: concerned about politics
It's not good to leave children around homosexuals. There's something evil about them. They're like sexual vampires, always thirsty, but never quenched.

The second law of homosexuality:

To the mentally healthy (heterosexual), sex is something you do.
To the mentally diseased ('homosexual'), sex is everything you are

58 posted on 10/27/2003 11:28:54 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
But Camille wasn't Cathoilic, she was 'gay'. These are mutually exclusive concepts.

Not really- a gay person can be Catholic in good standing so long as they don't engage in homosexual sex.

59 posted on 10/27/2003 11:30:45 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: John O
The mere fact that they are practicing sexual perversity is enough to disqualify them.

Would you disqualify anyone who practices "perverse" sex from adopting? What definition would you give for "perverse" sex?

60 posted on 10/27/2003 11:33:04 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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