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The FReeper Foxhole Profile Rolling Thunder®, Inc. - June 5th, 2003
Rolling Thunder®, Inc. - Indiana ^ | March 2001 | Linda Bordner

Posted on 06/05/2003 5:35:53 AM PDT by SAMWolf



Dear Lord,

There's a young man far from home,
called to serve his nation in time of war;
sent to defend our freedom
on some distant foreign shore.

We pray You keep him safe,
we pray You keep him strong,
we pray You send him safely home ...
for he's been away so long.

There's a young woman far from home,
serving her nation with pride.
Her step is strong, her step is sure,
there is courage in every stride.
We pray You keep her safe,
we pray You keep her strong,
we pray You send her safely home ...
for she's been away too long.

Bless those who await their safe return.
Bless those who mourn the lost.
Bless those who serve this country well,
no matter what the cost.

Author Unknown

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FReepers from the The Foxhole
join in prayer for all those serving their country at this time.

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The Years of Rolling Thunder's
"Run to the Wall:"
Into the 21st Century and Riding On

They say the sound brings it all back. If you stand in Washington, D.C. the day before Memorial Day and face the Memorial Bridge, you will hear it for yourself. When it begins it's just a distant rumbling, more a feeling than a noise.

Then the bridge itself seems to tremble and something big shimmers on the distant horizon. They say there's only one thing on earth equal to the din of B-52s in carpet-bomb formation. They say it's the sound of Rolling Thunder's Run to the Wall.



What began as a drive to champion what really happened tom abandoned U.S. prisoners of war under the murky veil surrounding the Vietnam War has evolved into a uniquely American cause to protect and aid all U.S. military personnel then, now, and in the future.

There's no denying the noise generated by more than 250,000 motorcycles riding wheel to wheel as they do each year in support of their mission is enough to get anyone's attention. But what's really impressive is the impact the group has had on a national and international level.

To appreciate how far they've come, you really have to go back to where and how they got started. That would be a smoky little diner near Summersville, New Jersey in 1987. A couple of Vietnam vets had crossed paths when they discovered each was doing the same thing on their own.

"We were just two guys going around putting up flags," recalls Artie Muller of his meeting at the diner with co-founder Ray Manzo. "It was Ray's idea to do the motorcycle run. As for the name, there's nothing that sounds more like the B-52's carpet-bombing than a large group of Harley-Davidsons!"



"I was in the U.S. Army," Muller, now Rolling Thunder president, states matter-of-factly. Today, it's no big deal to tell strangers your military affiliation. But Muller remembers clearly the very different world he and fellow vets returned to after serving in Vietnam.

"People would spit on us. Literally. Some called us names like 'baby-killers.' Basically we were treated like hell. I know guys who came home and just went and hid out in the woods.

"Most of us just came home and put our uniforms away. Didn't talk to anybody. Just tried to get back to a regular life. That was the best you could do. But there were guys who were, who still are, having a hard time with it."

The sting of being shunned by the very nation they had gone to fight and lay down their lives for was bad enough. But the pain of learning how politics of war had betrayed them was far worse.

"There were - so many guys - who went their first day into combat and got sent home in body bags the same day. They just weren't being trained what they needed to know to stay alive," Muller recalls.



"I was combat infantry, Sergeant E-5. I extended my stay another three months to keep these guys alive - to train them, the guys just coming in, so at least they'd have a chance."

For many, including American POW patriots left behind in captivity, the right to at least have a chance seemed to be a little too much to ask. In the aftermath of troop withdrawal, the government seemed more eager to save face than to salvage the lives of those who served.

"Leave No One Behind"


Muller can explain Rolling Thunder's history in a few well-chosen, heartfelt words:

"We found out the U.S. government lied to everybody and we were very aggravated. We got involved in Washington passing bills to protect armed forces left behind after conflicts. We help servicemen get their VA benefits and steer them in the right direction to get the help they need."



In the beginning, there was a march as well as the motorcycle run, to bring attention to the Rolling Thunder cause. Neither Muller nor Manzo were used to being the ones on the demonstration line, and had no clue the response they might have that first year.

"None of us ever did anything like this before," Muller says of the first event. "We applied for the permits and got them OK. That part went pretty smoothly. But when we got there - we didn't know what to expect. We didn't know if anybody would even show up."

Hearts soared when the first motorcycles appeared. Then more cycles came and kept on coming until some 2500 motorcycles joined in the unmistakable roar of unity. In addition, upwards of 5000 marchers showed up, too.

The crowd, it turned out, wasn't just Vietnam vets, but ordinary civilians as well. It was as if the American populace, silent all those years, had suddenly found voice. The vets, who had served without thanks and suffered without support that day received a long overdue vote of confidence from a tardy nation.



Suddenly, being a Vietnam vet was no longer a mark of shame, but a badge of honor. Out of the woodwork came droves of would be heroes claiming to have medals in a war they never fought, some even too young to remember.

Despite the oddness of the 1980s turnabout, Rolling Thunder has never wavered from its cause. Muller cites the hero mentality as one he strives to overcome in dealing with vets who belatedly have to come to terms with a war without closure.

"Veterans, all of them, did their part, whether they were in combat or not. Whether they were loading cargo in planes, trucking food into the guys or flying in supplies, they all deserve credit. I don't think it's right for guys to feel they weren't vital just because they maybe weren't in combat."

After the first few events, the march portion of Rolling Thunder's demonstration was dropped, but the motorcycle motorcade continues to swell in rank and number. The year 2000 Memorial run included over 250,000 cycles and about 400,000 attendees in support of the group.



Ask any serviceman how you close a military mission, and you'll hear the same words "Leave no one behind."

It might have started out as a limited engagement to focus attention on those unaccounted for after Vietnam, but it's become much, much more. Rolling Thunder picked up the banner of accountability its government dropped and carries it with pride and honor into the 21st century.



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To: Johnny Gage
Great plane for it's time period and I believe is still serves in a "Wild Weasel" capacity.
41 posted on 06/05/2003 7:56:23 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Clones are people two.)
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To: snippy_about_it
You're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome. :)

Now that's not funny. LOL!!!!!!

42 posted on 06/05/2003 8:32:43 AM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: snippy_about_it
You're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome. :)

Now that's not funny. LOL!!!!!!

43 posted on 06/05/2003 8:32:44 AM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: snippy_about_it
You're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome. :)

Now that's not funny. LOL!!!!!!

44 posted on 06/05/2003 8:32:45 AM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: SCDogPapa
You're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome. :)

Now that's not funny. LOL!!!!!!

LOL! You two crack me up!

LOL! You two crack me up!

LOL! You two crack me up!

45 posted on 06/05/2003 8:47:06 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Clones are people two.)
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To: radu; snippy_about_it; TEXOKIE; Do the Dew; Pippin; bentfeather; Victoria Delsoul; AntiJen; ...

46 posted on 06/05/2003 8:53:13 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Clones are people two.)
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To: SAMWolf


47 posted on 06/05/2003 10:03:05 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: snippy_about_it
Present!
48 posted on 06/05/2003 10:09:07 AM PDT by manna
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To: SAMWolf
We had the Vietnam Mobile Wall nearby here a few years ago, while I was still in the service.
Our local newspaper, the Times Herald-Record, sent a reporter over to brown-nose the people running the site and setup.
(The TH-R is a VERY liberal newspaper owned by a Massachusetts company. My unit was doing the 1812 Overture at Thomas Bull Memorial Park when a reporter from the TH-R showed up and insulted ALL servicemen. We asked him if he knew what it felt like to wear his camera suppository style. He got teh picture and shut up.)
The guy said a ton of massive lies, not teh least of which that the TH-R ALWAYS supports 'our troops' and 'fights for the veterans'.

He was the guy in charge of the minions of reporters for said newspaper, and I called him on his 'embellishments' on fact.
He did not like that and stormed off.
But not until after revealing what he really thought of soldiers first.

More people need to be made aware that there are people here in the states that DON'T CARE if we find all our missing soldiers or not.
And ALOT more needs to be done to find out where they are, if any remain alive, and bring them back alive or not.

But it steams my gourd to think about our dear local communists and their ilk and the ploys they use to try and get the 'dirt' on the military.
49 posted on 06/05/2003 10:18:19 AM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: SAMWolf
Check out this link just up on the BBC.

Flying over D-Day

The Allied invasion of Nazi-occupied France on D-Day nearly stalled on the sands of Omaha beach. The heavy seas which drove landing craft far off course and stiff German resistance threw the ambitious attack into confusion. This chaos is caught on an aerial photograph which has just been released to the public by Keele University Aerial Photographic Library.

50 posted on 06/05/2003 10:25:01 AM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: snippy_about_it
Nice graphic Snippy. You can almost feel what he is going through.
51 posted on 06/05/2003 10:29:36 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Clones are people two.)
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To: Darksheare
You got that right Darksheare.

And Bill and HIllary are at the top of the list of people who "loath" the military.
53 posted on 06/05/2003 10:31:35 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Clones are people two.)
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To: snippy_about_it
I'm in.
*Sssssh!*
I've gotta find my corner...
54 posted on 06/05/2003 10:32:11 AM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: SAMWolf
Yes.
New York will still need a wake-up call.

Hopefully, the military vets here in the state will wake up and smell the traypac and figure out who is their friend and who isn't.
55 posted on 06/05/2003 10:33:34 AM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
Great site!! Thanks for the link.

Tomorrow the Foxhole is going to cover the first hours at Omaha Beach.
56 posted on 06/05/2003 10:33:44 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Clones are people two.)
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To: SAMWolf
You're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome. :)

Now that's not funny. LOL!!!!!!
LOL! You two crack me up!
LOL! You two crack me up!
LOL! You two crack me up!

Sam,,,,not you too!!!

57 posted on 06/05/2003 10:34:10 AM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: SAMWolf
You're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome. :)

Now that's not funny. LOL!!!!!!
LOL! You two crack me up!
LOL! You two crack me up!
LOL! You two crack me up!

Sam,,,,not you too!!!

58 posted on 06/05/2003 10:34:11 AM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: SAMWolf
You're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome. :)

Now that's not funny. LOL!!!!!!
LOL! You two crack me up!
LOL! You two crack me up!
LOL! You two crack me up!

Sam,,,,not you too!!!

59 posted on 06/05/2003 10:34:11 AM PDT by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: Darksheare
I've heard some stories that the Libs in NY aren't happy with Hillary, not acting Liberal enough for them.
60 posted on 06/05/2003 10:35:10 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Clones are people two.)
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