The FReeper Foxhole - Gulf War Syndrome: Fact vs. Fiction - Dec 9th, 2002

http://www.fumento.com/gwspro.html ^ | Michael Fumento

[185JHP]

That the the etiology of the ailment isn't known doesn't establish that the ailment isn't real. The existence of malingerers doesn't establish that the ailment isn't real. People with test-result proven medical problems should be compensated. "Tommy knows."

[MistyCA]

The problem is that the media doesn't consider their unproven biased spin on things to be a lie. If they say it, it's supposedly true. That's dangerous.

[John Lenin]

I though about that statement and realized Bush I was president at the time but I don't put it past the RATS to have thought of something like that. Plus the fact that Bubba ignored the problem the whole time he was in office was not only a slap in the face to the military but may have been part of his anti-military plan to rile up the troops for a time like now.

[MistyCA]

Oh, duh....of course! I wasn't thinking about the time frame either! I just dislike Clinton so much that I am willing to blame anything on him! :) Honestly, however, I don't think there was a conspiracy to spike the shots or anything of that nature. I think this is all something that just happened. I hope the people who are affected get good medical care. I hope the care is individualized rather than trying to cook up some new "syndrome" to account for everything. And I still think that the congress should be required to recieve the very same medical care and pay rate as the military. We can even put them up in barracks! I am sick to death of people in congress who are making big bucks in spite of the fact they are (many of them) no better qualified to run this nation then any one of us would be. Their arrogance offends me.

[thatdewd]

Thanks for that info. I'm making note of this and will talk to my doc about it. I'm so damn sick of being sick and tired, I'll try almost anything to get back to 'normal'. I can just barely remember what that is! ;-)

When I first noticed I was sick it was just a general lethargy that continuously got worse, with periods of FM. Later, the fluid buildup in my lungs started, and would go away and come back, worse each time. Periods of 'confusion' amongst all of it as well. I occassionaly had night sweats too. I was lucky and responded to the medicine, proof in my mind that my problems were probably caused by Mycoplasma. Do talk to your doctor. Stick with the request for doxycycline. Most doctors are familiar with the common forms of Mycoplasma, such as the one that causes "walking pneumonia" and may try to precribe erythromyacin (sp?), which isn't effective against the form of Mycoplasma often found in Gulf War vets. Here are some links, print these papers to take to your doctor with you:

Mycoplasmal Infections and Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue Illness (Gulf War Illness) Associated with Deployment to Operation Desert Storm

Diagnosis and Treatment of Mycoplasmal Infections in Persian Gulf War Illness-CFIDS Patients

Doxycycline Treatment and Desert Storm

All of these and others, including papers on chemical sensitivities and vaccine reactions can be found on this page: Gulf War Illness Research This is just one site that has info, there are others too. Please pass this info around to any you feel may benefit from it and I hope it helps. Prayers and Blessings for you and all the others. (Military docs as a rule will NOT prescribe doxycycline. Try a small family GP somewhere not close to a military base.) (seriously)

[Arioch7]

LOL! Too funny.

[Clovis_Skeptic]

please remove me from the freeper foxhole ping list.

[Jen]

I've removed you from the Foxhole ping list. Thanks for letting us know. Jen

[Jen]

Uh oh. You must've seen some of my wacky posts! ;-) hahahahaha

[Jen]

NEW THREAD

[steve50]

Oh oh. I got caught being a sexist. Sorry about the omission. And thanks to all you guys and GALS. :-)

[John Lenin]

I figure if you join the service you know your life is at risk. Doesn't the VA take care of veterans ?

[Mr. Silverback]

The 16th is in the Northwest corner of the state. Farm and manufacturing country.

[SAMWolf]

Thanks. I lived in Mchenry County. Northeast part of the state.

[TEXOKIE]

Thanks for the ping, SAMWolf!

[vnix]

thank you

[Alberta's Child]

I thought there was some evidence that depleted-uranium ammunition may have caused some of these ailments. There was a report of some Italian peacekeepers in Kosovo who were showing symptoms similar to Gulf War Syndrome, and they had been stationed in an area of the country that had been bombarded extensively by the U.S. back in 1999.

[SAMWolf]

I heard those reports too, but never heard any follow-up on whether they were confirmed.

[DoorGunner]

Chlorpyrifos and Dichlorvos are CHOLINESTERASE inhibitors, as are most pesticides now used (organophosphates and carbamates) and NERVE GAS!

Thus, one would find similar symptomology whether a person was exposed to organophosphate insecticide, or nerve gas.

For more information: http://www.entm.purdue.edu/entomology/courses/611/op%20lecture.htm

DG

[TinkersDam]

Why are you sending me these lengthy posts on subjects that I have no interest in?

This is nothing but SPAM.