Posted on 08/10/2020 4:13:49 PM PDT by pfflier
Yesterday a group of us discussed our prior military experiences, we had never met before and it was informal employment seminar for my business. I exclusively hire vets and being one, I know we are all capable of embellishing our careers with war stories.
Amazingly, not one guy claimed to be a SEAL or Green Beret but, one woman in the group claimed that she was a former USAF Enlisted Tactical Air Controller.
It just didn't smell right and I asked about her training. She said Keesler AFB.
She couldn't "find" her DD 214. I told her I could go to the military records center and get a copy of it for her. She played the "hurt card" then the implied EEO complaint IMO because of her looks and gender. She didn't volunteer much after that but the guys in the group kept on buying the story. None of them were former USAF, mostly former Navy.
Something isn't right with that story I think.
Hi Ben
I have three Honorable Discharge certificates: one at the end of my four year enlistment, another at the end of my reserve commission, and one at my retirement at the end of my regular commission.
I would find it odd that the young lady cant find her DD214 - we were taught to keep that document safe and to make many copies. Little hard to apply for Veterans Benefits without it.
AirForce Times says that the first female JTAC GRADUATED in spring 2019.
That might factor into her timeline / story. Just saying.
Army soldiers can go from Active Duty to Reserves to Active Guard Reserve and get DD214s from each stint. Also, Reservists are supposed to get DD214s for any period of active duty over 179 days.
I know the AF has a Reservist program that is basically Active Duty and they may fall under similar guidelines.
I was shocked to read that any job in the Air Force requires actual physical training... (just kidding!)
Agree. Me thinks I detect boooooooollschiesse.
I was a lordly Artilleryman (we lend dignity by our mere presence to what would otherwise be naught but an ugly brawl...) but anytime someone sez “SF”, “Sniper” etc my BS detector goes into high alert. While there are SF and Snipers out in the real world, I think this is similar and warrants a gimlet eye.
This story was linked right under your story:
An “unnamed enlisted woman”.
Also, I made a dozen copies of my DD214 and took them with me EVERY time I went to a job fair, informal offer, formal offer, etc.
Like American Express, don’t leave home without it.
Not related but during the “old days” in the USAF whenever a person reenlisted they were discharged, given a DD-214, and an honorable discharge + certificate. So some old timers would have a few DD-214s and Honorable discharge certificates in a twenty year career. They stopped doing that some time in the late 1960s or early 70s. Now a person will only have one of each when they get out.
Just keeping an open mind because the USAF is a big place.
my dd214 entitles me to nothing other than a lifetime membership at the VFW, and I had to pay for the membership
God bless all the Military
That’s interesting. Things change. But, the DD214 is still one of the most important documents a veteran will ever have.
Does this sound like your job?
Tech controllers called themselves "jack of all trades, master of none," with the basic duty description of "operates, monitors, secures, and controls the physical, data link, network, and transport layers of garrison and tactical communications-computer systems, encompassing local and wide area networks, end-to-end telecommunications and circuit switching systems, long-haul transmission, and the global information grid; intoperforms, coordinates, and supervises their design, configuration, operation, restoration and improvements; analyzes their capabilities and performance, identifies problems and takes corrective action; operates cryptographic equipment; fabricates cable assemblies; performs C-CS control facility quality assurance evaluation; (and) directs and makes operational adjustments to C-CS equipment."
She did get "air" into it though.
spec ops is spooky ****
spec ops is spooky ****
Not sure you can hire vets exclusively unless a security clearance is necessary. But even so, if she said on he application she was a vet you can ask for proof.
Not sure how what you describe is team building. Sounds like a waste of work time. But, you know best.
I went inactive reserve after an honorable; got a DD214 the day I separated, (1989).
Anyone who hems and haws about a DD214 isn’t qualified for more than minimum wage, even if she did serve somewhere, somehow.
For what it’s worth, I was commissioned when men still griped about women being commissioned. Served with plenty of male chauvinists, but it was the wives and other commissioned women who made my life hell.
As the DD214 is the gold standard of proof of military service, you would think she would appreciate your offer to provide her a copy. Unless the old one was used as a fish wrapper in a “the one that got away” fishing tale.
This wasn't team building. It was a weekend open house for prospective job applicants. A beer and a tour.
I was just thinking that. If I ever told my real story it would pretty much not be believed except for the small handful of other folks involved.
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