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The FReeper Foxhole Profiles The Honda Point Disaster (9/8/1923) - September 9th, 2005
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Posted on 09/10/2005 7:55:11 AM PDT by snippy_about_it



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Honda Point Disaster, 8 September 1923



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The Navy's Greatest Navigational Tragedy




The Navy's greatest navigational tragedy took place in September 1923 at an isolated California coastal headland locally known as Honda Point. Officially called Point Pedernales, Honda is a few miles from the northern entrance of the heavily-traveled Santa Barbara Channel. Completely exposed to wind and wave, and often obscured by fog, this rocky shore has claimed many vessels, but never more at one stroke than at about 9 PM on the dark evening of 8 September 1923, when seven nearly new U.S. Navy destroyers and twenty-three lives were lost there.


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Just over twelve hours earlier Destroyer Squadron ELEVEN left San Francisco Bay and formed up for a morning of combat maneuvers. In an important test of engineering efficiency, this was followed by a twenty-knot run south, including a night passage through the Santa Barbara Channel. In late afternoon the fourteen destroyers fell into column formation, led by their flagship, USS Delphy. Poor visibility ensured that squadron commander Captain Edward H. Watson and two other experienced navigators on board Delphy had to work largely by the time-honored, if imprecise, technique of dead reckoning. Soundings could not be taken at twenty knots, but they checked their chartwork against bearings obtained from the radio direction finding (RDF) station at Point Arguello, a few miles south of Honda. At the time they expected to turn into the Channel, the Point Arguello station reported they were still to the northward. However, RDF was still new and not completely trusted, so this information was discounted, and DesRon 11 was ordered to turn eastward, with each ship following Delphy.


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However, the Squadron was actually several miles north, and further east, than Delphy's navigators believed. It was very dark, and almost immediately the ships entered a dense fog. About five minutes after making her turn, Delphy slammed into the Honda shore and stuck fast. A few hundred yards astern, USS S.P. Lee saw the flagship's sudden stop and turned sharply to port, but quickly struck the hidden coast to the north of Delphy. Following her, USS Young had no time to turn before she ripped her hull open on submerged rocks, came to a stop just south of Delphy and rapidly turned over on her starboard side. The next two destroyers in line, Woodbury and Nicholas, turned right and left respectively, but also hit the rocks. Steaming behind them, USS Farragut backed away with relatively minor damage, USS Fuller piled up near Woodbury, USS Percival and Somers both narrowly evaded the catastrophe, but USS Chauncey tried to rescue the men clinging to the capsized Young and herself went aground nearby. The last four destroyers, Kennedy, Paul Hamilton, Stoddert and Thompson successfully turned clear of the coast and were unharmed. In the darkness and fog enveloping the seven stranded ships, several hundred crewmen were suddenly thrown into a battle for survival against crashing waves and a hostile shore.


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For more images related to the September 1923 Honda Point Disaster, see:

Honda Point Disaster -- Surface Views of the Southern Wrecks;

Honda Point Disaster -- Surface Views of the Northern Wrecks;

Honda Point Disaster -- Later Views of the Wrecks.






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To: snippy_about_it

Has that broad cindy sheehan's name been added to the traitor's section? She's sure earned it.


21 posted on 09/10/2005 9:43:55 AM PDT by Allen H (Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Pres.Bush,& the USA!)
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To: Valin

Yeah, I would think they frown even more on Captains that run their ship and nine others aground, losing seven of them. But I sure as heck wouldn't have wanted to be him. I wonder how many people with that tech level could have atually navigated that without incident given the terrible weather. I sure couldn't do it. The only safe option seems to be turn back the way you came, or sit still till the sun comes up.


22 posted on 09/10/2005 9:59:08 AM PDT by Allen H (Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Pres.Bush,& the USA!)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; Wneighbor; All

Whew, I made it, finally!!Howdy all.

23 posted on 09/10/2005 11:48:34 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (Going to the End of the Line....)
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To: bentfeather

Cool graphic. 8)


24 posted on 09/10/2005 12:47:01 PM PDT by Allen H (Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Pres.Bush,& the USA!)
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To: Allen H

Hello Allen H.


25 posted on 09/10/2005 12:48:21 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (Going to the End of the Line....)
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To: Valin; All

The Army would never screw up like that and loose sevewn destroyers.


26 posted on 09/10/2005 12:51:33 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (LET ME KNOW WHERE HANOI JANE FONDA IS WHEN SHE TOURS)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Comments?


27 posted on 09/10/2005 1:25:26 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Ooooooooooooooo, boy I don't know when, but THAT'S gonna be ugly in here SOME TIME. 8)

Oh, and, well. I didn't think the Army had Destroyers? ;) Heh heh.

28 posted on 09/10/2005 4:24:19 PM PDT by Allen H (Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Pres.Bush,& the USA!)
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To: Allen H

No details, please.


29 posted on 09/10/2005 4:41:30 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (LET ME KNOW WHERE HANOI JANE FONDA IS WHEN SHE TOURS)
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To: Darksheare; Professional Engineer

Rated as displacing 11,688 tons on one site, 10,288 tons in another. Only 348 feet long, but 69' 3" beam. Maximum draft was 27' 2".

Armor was eighteen inches thick on the sides. Turret armor was 17" thick on the front and sides and 6" on the top. She could steam 5,500 nautical miles without refueling.

A very superior weapon in her day.

30 posted on 09/10/2005 5:26:19 PM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: snippy_about_it
I remember reading of a later incident than Honda Point where a serious collision occurred during Navy night training. I can't remember any details, can't find anything on the Web, and can't find it in my stuff.

I believe all concerned were trying to avoid screwing up their careers, if nothing else, and because the Depression had hit losing a ship was really unforgivable. That was REALLY the end of night combat training.
31 posted on 09/10/2005 5:47:48 PM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: Allen H; snippy_about_it

Welcome to the Foxhole. When snippy comes back, she'll put you on the ping list and ping you to the Foxhole articles.


32 posted on 09/10/2005 6:01:17 PM PDT by Samwise ("You have the nerve to say that terrorism is caused by resisting it?")
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To: Professional Engineer

Now where'd you get the idea for that?


33 posted on 09/10/2005 6:04:08 PM PDT by Samwise ("You have the nerve to say that terrorism is caused by resisting it?")
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To: Samwise; Professional Engineer; snippy_about_it; All
Another late bump for the Freeper Foxhole

Here's a pic that Samwise and P.E. might enjoy. When I first looked at it I thought cool ramp shot and then I saw the gallon jug and went Ohhhhh

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

35 posted on 09/10/2005 6:43:20 PM PDT by alfa6 (BLOAT)
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To: alfa6

Oh my! That's pretty cool.


36 posted on 09/10/2005 7:23:53 PM PDT by Samwise ("You have the nerve to say that terrorism is caused by resisting it?")
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To: Valin
1924 Leopold & Loeb found guilty of murder

Don't drop your eyeglasses at the scene. Doh!

37 posted on 09/10/2005 7:49:09 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can control the awesome power of the Ductalator.)
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To: Valin
1955 "Gunsmoke" premiers on CBS TV

A role model is born.


38 posted on 09/10/2005 7:53:37 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can control the awesome power of the Ductalator.)
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To: Wneighbor

Howdy neighbor


39 posted on 09/10/2005 7:56:01 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can control the awesome power of the Ductalator.)
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To: Allen H
Great pic! I didn't know the Oregon was the first ship through the canal

I didn't either until now. I posted the pic using a computer with one of these new fangled 14" CRT things. I couldn't read the caption.

40 posted on 09/10/2005 7:58:16 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can control the awesome power of the Ductalator.)
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