The FReeper Foxhole Presents the Saturday Symposium - Illegal Entry - August 20th, 2005

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Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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for all those serving their country at this time.


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This is just one sentence of the Foxhole Mission Statement. Today's subject relates because it is our country that our troops have fought and died for. The erosion of our country, from within and at our borders is not what they fought for or continue fighting for to this day. While we fight a war on terror far away from our own land, let's also keep in mind the war we must fight at home.

Background threads that got me thinking.....

Two threads running, one now locked:

Two Illegal Immigrants Win Arizona Ranch in Court Fight



Two Illegal Immigrants Win Arizona Ranch in Court Fight

And then:

MS-13 in Your Backyard(George Putnam Opines)

Protest Gets Violent At Mexican Consulate (San Diego)

Could this be in our future?

Gaza - Images of Anguish

sym·po·sium : a social gathering at which there is free interchange of ideas

So now let's get on with the discussion. Pull up a chair or grab a spot on the floor around the virtual Foxhole Cabin and let's chat.

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I'm here if you need me. ;-)

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Good afternoon Colonel.

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Good afternoon EGC.

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"Do be do be do." Sinatra"

LOL. Old blue eyes is one of my favorites.

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I've been watching and posting on Indy's thread about his daughter, great pictures and we are so grateful for her and her fellow troops service.

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...and Texas has a responsibility to provide them education and health care once they are here

Grrrr. Says who. How about Strayhorn give up her entire salary to help these poor folks out...in their own country!

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The medical problems are just a piece of the humpty dumpty puzzle that's causing this country to fall apart. There are so many problems caused by this I don't think we could discuss them all in one day.

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Shame on me. Ranting before I say "Hi Jinxy", good to see you fall in. :-)

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tangentially related

Is that an engineer term?

The gentleman you interview sounds like he has principles worth standing by. Good for him.

[SAMWolf]

Immigrants, legal or otherwise, come to Texas to "put a roof over their heads" and Texas has a responsibility to provide them education and health care once they are here, Republican gubernatorial candidate Carole Keeton Strayhorn told a conservative GOP group today.

So if I emmigrate to Texas, she'll pay for my housing, food and medical? She sounds like she's so full of crap her eyes are brown.

Why so many people don't see illegal immigration as the second most important problem facing our Country, I'll never understand.

I'm a legal immigrant and I'm the son of legal immigrants, and my entire family was not in this country until just after World War II. Yes, WWII, the Great Crusade. So what I'm about to write may seem both harsh and selfish, along the lines, "I've got mine, now you screw off."

Well, not quite. What I've observed during my lifetime, and in the education I received from my family and schools, and in my career, is a sickening arc of lowered expectations of immigrants. What I see now is an acceptance of the unacceptable. What I see are millions of illegals who either have no desire to assimilate or are unable to do so. What I see are unamerican practices that include the insistance that all of our public business be conducted in the language of the immigrants, sometimes in addition to English; sometimes not. What I see is a lazy acceptance of millions of illegals on the assumption that they will take jobs that Americans can't or won't.

Enough is enough. It is time for us to take back our nation; welcoming those who would join us in the American synthesis that seemed to work so well in the last century. A synthesis that saw people from all over the world, but mostly from Europe, celebrate their heritage but at the same time embrace a new heritage of liberty, a unique national heritage, new in history. A heritage based not on religion, not on language, not on ethnicity, but on the ideas embodied in our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.

Herewith are some immodest proposals:

• First, reduce sharply the total number of immigrants. About 15 per cent of the 1.3 million per year (legal and illegal) cited by the Center for Immigration Studies would be a good place to start on the high end
• All immigrant applicants to be rigorously screened for terror connections, regardless of nationality. Extra screening for would-be immigrants from nations with known terror connections, such as Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lybia, etc.
• No adult immigrants from any nation unless they have at least the equivalent of a high school diploma.
• Stop bilingual education; all education in public schools to be solely in English (except, of course, teaching another language as a second language for English-speakers.)
• Stop all welfare and education benefits for illegal immigrants, including such stupidities as in-state tuition rates.
• Jail all illegal aliens caught and deport them forthwith. No hearings. No lawyers.
• Change US laws to have the US military protect our borders; modify the Posse Comitatus Act to enable select units of our military to enforce beefed-up immigration laws on our borders, including inland airports.
• Change citizenship requirements under law so that children born to immigrants currently in the US who are not citizens are also not citizens. If their parents become citizens, their children may also apply to become citizens after they have completed high school.
• Citizenship tests will be based on both English proficiency and knowledge of the US Constitution and history equivalent to a typical American high school graduate. This is a low enough standard.

I feel much better now. The chances of such draconian laws being passed? Essentially nil. Enjoy watching the flames from the next terrorist attack in America caused by a combination of legal and illegal immigrants who have not been fully screened.

Not my writing but I agree 100% with the writer.

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Good for him. :-)

[Valin]

But it was a good rant!

[HiJinx]

Hi back atchya! No shame...you're still one of the best hostesses around!

Cool off time is over, now I gotta go mow the jungle. Arizona monsoons are great for making the grass grow...some spots have grown 8-10 inches in the last week!

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Is that an engineer term?

Only when required to cosine a document.

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Thanks.

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Only when required to cosine a document.

LOL!

I had to look it up...

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I've been to Arizona, I don't remember any grass.

[Valin]

"Sometimes a womans got to do what a womans got to do, and there ain't no two ways about."
With apologies to John Wayne

[Valin]

Oh about today subject Illegal Entry.
We at the American Society of Steves are against it. We do not approve.

[SAMWolf]

We at the American Society of Steves are against it. We do not approve.

AMEN!