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The FReeper Foxhole Revisits "The Advent of the All-Metal Airplane" - November 5th, 2004
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Posted on 11/04/2004 11:01:46 PM PST by snippy_about_it



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The Advent of the All-Metal Airplane





Metal-Skinned Aircraft


Most of the 170,000 airplanes built during World War I were constructed of wooden frames with fabric coverings. These materials were relatively lightweight and available. Anthony Fokker, a Dutch entrepreneur working in Germany during the war, developed a welded-tube steel fuselage to take the place of wood.

German manufacturers built more than 1,000 of these aircraft, which had wooden wings. Hugo Junkers, a German designer, built all-metal aircraft, first using sheet iron. He soon switched to duralumin, a high-strength aluminum alloy developed just before the war. After the war, Junkers developed several all-metal passenger transports.

In the spring of 1920, the American pilot John M. Larsen began demonstrating an imported Junkers all-metal passenger plane designated the JL-6. It created much excitement within the American aviation community. The U.S. Postal Service bought six of the aircraft. The enthusiasm over the JL-6 caused many aviation leaders to call for the development of all-metal aircraft.

The National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA) declared in its 1920 Annual Report that metal was superior to wood because "metal does not splinter, is more homogeneous, and the properties of the material are much better known and can be relied upon. Metal also can be produced in large quantities, and it is felt that in the future all large airplanes must necessarily be constructed of metal."

NACA immediately began research into all-metal construction, and the U.S. Navy developed duralumin fabrication techniques at the Naval Aircraft Factory. In 1924, the first all-metal commercial airplane, called the Pullman, was produced by William Stout. Glenn Martin Aircraft also developed all-metal aircraft for the U.S. Navy in 1923 – 1924, where the only wooden structure was the engine mount.


The Junkers J.L. 6 represents an important step forward in technology. It was probably the first plane with the fuselage, wings, and skin all constructed of metal. Credits - NASA


The Junkers J.L. 6 built in Germany in 1919 as the F 13 and imported to the United States by John Larsen to be used as a mail plane. Credits - NASA


Airplane designers also felt that metal offered other significant advantages over wood, including protection from fire, but in reality, early aircraft metals provided little protection against airplane fires. In fact, despite the enthusiasm over the JL-6, the aircraft had a faulty fuel system causing it to catch fire in flight and the thin aluminum skin between the engine and cockpit melted, allowing flames to burst through at the pilots' feet. Two airplanes were lost within months, and the Post Office quickly sold the remaining four at a huge loss.

Despite the initial great enthusiasm over all-metal construction within the U.S. aviation community and the widespread belief among designers in the superiority of metal in the early 1920s, engineers soon found that metal was not inherently superior at the time. Wood was still lightweight and easy to work with. Over the next decade, aeronautical engineers had a difficult time designing metal wings and airframes that weighed as little as wood.

In late 1920, the Army Air Service contracted with the Gallaudet Aircraft Company for a monoplane bomber with an all-metal fuselage and metal framework wings. The prototype, designated the DB-1 and delivered in late 1921, was grossly overweight and considered a miserable failure. It was quickly retired.


The DB-1 weighed 11,160 lbs. gross


By 1929, nine years after the JL-6 had created so much excitement about all-metal airplanes, an aeronautical textbook estimated that metal wings still weighed 25 to 36 percent more than wood wings. By 1930, a decade after the NACA declared metal superior to wood, only five percent of the aircraft in production were of all-metal construction.

One of the big problems with metal was that it buckled when compressed, just like a piece of paper will bend when its ends are pushed together. In comparison, wood does not buckle as easily. By the 1930s, another aircraft design trend known as stressed-skin structures made this problem more acute.

Before this time, aircraft achieved much of their structural strength through their internal frameworks. But in a stressed-skin structure, the covering contributed much of the structure's strength and the internal framework is reduced. This provided a streamlined external surface for the airplane, but made metal buckling failures more likely.

In order to combat the problems of compressive buckling, metal structures had to be complex, with curves and riveting and reinforcement. This dramatically increased the costs of such an aircraft. By 1929, some manufacturers were making metal wings that were as light as wooden ones, but by the end of the 1930s, all-metal airplanes were significantly more expensive than wood and fabric airplanes.

Metal also presumably was more durable than wood, which warped, splintered, and was eaten by termites. But duralumin also had severe corrosion problems. It turned brittle. Unlike iron or steel, which rusted from the outside in, duralumin weakened internally and could fail suddenly in flight. Duralumin corroded even more in salt spray and the U.S. Navy eagerly sought a solution.

The Aluminum Company of America (Alcoa) and the Federal government cooperated to develop a material known as Alclad, which consisted of an aluminum alloy bonded to pure aluminum. Alclad solved many of the corrosion problems of duralumin. Soon other alloys were developed that proved effective as well and during the 1930s, all-metal airplanes became much more common.

By the mid-1930s, wood was no longer used on American multi-engine passenger aircraft and U.S. combat aircraft. But in 1938, the British airplane company, de Havilland, began work on a fast, unarmed bomber named the Mosquito. It was one of the most successful British aircraft of World War II, able to fly faster and higher than most other aircraft. More than 7,700 Mosquitoes were built. They were made of spruce, birch plywood, and balsa-wood, proving that even in the era of all-metal planes, older materials could still achieve impressive results.


The famous British Mosquito - U.S. Air Force Museum








By the early 1930s, aircraft design and construction technology throughout the world had advanced to the point where it was possible to mass-produce all-metal airplanes. There had been an all-metal plane as early as WWI but it was an exception. Most airplanes of the war period and the 1920s had been primarily of wood and fabric construction, although many later ones had tubular steel fuselage frameworks.



The Air Corps' first all-metal monoplane bomber was the Boeing B-9.



The YB-9 was originally owned, developed and tested by Boeing as the XB-901 (NX10633). The plane was based on the Model 200 commercial transport, but was enlarged and adapted to the bomber role. The YB-9 was powered by two Pratt & Whitney R-1830-13 radial engines which gave it a top speed of 163 mph. Later in its service life, the YB-9 was fitted with the same engines powering the Y1B-9A service test aircraft bringing its top speed to 188 mph.; as fast as the US Army pursuit planes of the time.



A total of 7 aircraft were built: the prototype YB-9, a liquid-cooled engined Y1B-9, and five service test Y1B-9As. The aircraft never entered production mainly because there were even better aircraft being designed which would change the course of US bomber development.

TYPE- Boeing YB-9
Number Built/Converted - 1
Remarks- Boeing XB-901
Notes:
Serial number: 32-301
Originally Boeing-owned NX10633, XB-901 (Model 215)

SPECIFICATIONS
Span: 76 ft. 9 in.
Length: 51 ft. 6 in.
Height: 12 ft. 8 in.
Weight: 12,663 lbs. gross
Armament: 2 .30-cal. machine guns and 2,200 lbs. of bombs
Engines: Two Pratt & Whitney R-1830-13 radials of 575 hp. each
Crew: Four

PERFORMANCE
Top speed: 163 mph. at sea level
Cruising speed: 137 mph.
Service ceiling: 19,400 ft.
Range: approximately 500 miles with a full normal bomb load

Produced during 1932-33, the B-9 was outclassed by its contemporary all-metal Martin B-10 and only seven were purchased.


MARTIN B-10



Considered modern for its time. It flew on Hap Arnold's Alaska trip in 1934. Credits - U.S. Air Force Museum


The B-10, the first of the "modern-day" all-metal monoplane bombers to be produced in quantity, featured such innovations as internal bomb storage, retractable landing gear, a rotating gun turret, and enclosed cockpits. It was so advanced in design that it was 50% faster than its contemporary biplane bombers and as fast as most of the fighters. When the Air Corps ordered 121 B-10s in the 1933-1936 period, it was the largest procurement of bomber aircraft since WW I. It also ordered 32 B-10 type bombers with Pratt and Whitney rather than Wright engines and designated these B-12s.

General Henry H. "Hap" Arnold once called the B-10 the air power wonder of its day. In 1934, he led ten B-10s on a 8,290 mile flight from Washington, D.C. to Fairbanks, Alaska and back. Although Air Corps B-10s and B-12s were replaced by B-17s and B-18s in the late 1930s, China and the Netherlands flew export versions in combat against Japan.

The aircraft on display is painted as a B-10 used in the 1934 Alaskan Flight. The only remaining B-10 known, it was an export version sold to Argentina in 1938. Donated by the Government of Argentina to the U.S. Government for the Air Force Museum in 1970, it was restored by the 96th Maintenance Squadron. (Mobile), Air Force Reserve, at Kelly AFB, Texas, in 1973-76.

SPECIFICATIONS
Span: 70 ft. 6 in.
Length: 44 ft. 9 in.
Height: 15 ft. 5 in.
Weight: 14,700 lbs. loaded
Armament: Three .30-cal. machine guns, 2,200 lbs. of bombs
Engine: Two Wright R-1820's of 775 hp. each
Cost: $55,000

PERFORMANCE
Maximum speed: 215 mph.
Cruising speed: 183 mph.
Range: 1,370 miles
Service Ceiling: 24,000 ft.


The Air Corps' first all-metal fighter was the Consolidated P-25 of 1933.


Consolidated Y1P-25




The original YP-24 design was carried on by designer Robert J. Woods at Consolidated Aircraft Corporation as the Y1P-25. The Y1P-25 was similar to the YP-24 but was generally more streamlined and replaced the wooden YP-24 wing with one of all-metal construction.

Two Y1P-25s were ordered by the Army Air Corps in 1932. The first airframe (S/N 32-321) was fitted with a turbo-supercharger giving it a maximum speed of 247 mph. The Y1P-25 was destroyed in a crash on January 13, 1933.

The second airframe (S/N 32-322) was designated as Y1A-11 (attack bomber). This aircraft did not include a supercharger and featured a clipped vertical stabilizer. The Y1A-11 was also destroyed in a crash on January 20, 1933.

The accidents were not considered to be caused by faulty design and an order was placed with Consolidated Aircraft Corp. for what was to become the P-30.

Although only two were procured, the P-25 design was modified into the P-30, later redesignated the PB-2, of which 54 were purchased in 1935.

TYPE - Y1P-25
Number built/Converted - 1
Remarks - Improved YP-24


TYPE - Y1A-11
Number built/Converted - 1
Remarks - Attack version of Y1P-25

SPECIFICATIONS (Y1P-25)
Span: 43' 10.25"
Length: 29' 4"
Powerplant: Curtiss V-1570-57 "Conqueror" with G.E. form F-2G supercharger, 625 bhp at 2450 rpm at 20,000 ft.
Armament: Two .30 .cal. machine guns firing through the propeller, one .30 cal. gun aft.
Max. Speed: 247 mph
Aircraft crashed before completion of altitude and range tests



Detroit-Lockheed YP-24






An experimental pursuit plane, a two-place, low-wing fighter, with retractable landing gear. Designed by Detroit Aircraft Corporation engineer Robert J. Woods. Metal-skinned fuselage built in Detroit and wooden wing plus final assembly done at Lockheed Aircraft Corporation in Burbank, California. Termed by Lockheed the XP-900.

Completed in 1931, and sent to Dayton, Ohio for testing on 29 September 1931. Air Corps contracted for 5 Y1P-24s and 5 YA-9s (attack bomber version), but they were never completed, as Detroit-Lockheed went bankrupt in 1931. Designer Woods went with Consolidated Aircraft in Buffalo, NY which continued styling in a new ship designated the Y1P-25, further continued as the P-30 and P-30A.

The original and only YP-24 was destroyed on 19 October 1931 after the landing gear malfunctioned (wouldn't extend) and the pilot was forced to bail out.

Detroit-Lockheed YP-24

TYPE - YP-24 / Y1P-24
Number Built/Converted - 10
Remarks - low-wing, two-place monoplane project cancelled

SPECIFICATIONS
Span: 42' 9.25"
Length: 28' 9"
Powerplant: Curtiss Conqueror V-1570-23 of 602 hp.
Armament: One .30 .cal. and one .50 cal. machine gun firing through the propeller, one .30 cal. gun aft.
Max. Speed: 214.5 mph
Service Ceiling: 26,400 ft.
Range: 556 miles
Serial Number: 32-320


Consolidated P-30





PB-2


The P-30 was the first production aircraft ordered by the Army Air Corps with retractable landing gear, an enclosed and heated cockpit (for the pilot), and an exhaust driven turbo-supercharger. After the loss of the Y1P-25 (S/N 32-321), the Army ordered four improved examples and designated the aircraft P-30 (S/N 33-204 - 33-207). These aircraft were used for evaluation. The gunner in the rear cockpit was prone to black-out during sharp turns or dive recovery, but the Army was sufficiently pleased with the aircraft to place a production order for 50 aircraft on 6 December 1934.

The production aircraft (S/N 35-1 thru 50) were initially designated P-30As, but were later reclassified as PB-2As (Pursuit, Bi-place). The retractable landing gear was manually operated by the pilot through a hand crank located in the cockpit. The fixed-pitch propeller of the P-30 was replaced with a Curtiss Electric constant-speed propeller in the P-30A.

TYPE- P-30 P-30A
Number Built/Converted -450 Remarks - Improved Y1P-25; became PB-2 Improved P-30; became PB-2A

P-30 A

SPECIFICATIONS (P-30A)
Span: 43' 11"
Length: 30' 0"
Height: 8 ft. 3 in.
Powerplant: Curtiss V-1570-61 with G.E. form F-3 supercharger of 700 hp. at 15,000 ft.
Armament: Two .30 .cal. machine guns firing through the propeller, one .30 cal. gun aft.
Max. Speed: 274.5 mph at 25,000 ft. and 255.5 mph at 15,000 ft.
Cruising Speed: 215 mph
Service Ceiling: 28,000 ft.
Weight: 4,306 lbs. empty/5,643 lbs. (max.)






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To: GailA

Good Morning GailA.

How are you doing this morning?


21 posted on 11/05/2004 6:31:51 AM PST by SAMWolf (Whapped upside the head with a lime . . . another drive-by fruiting.)
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To: Valin
1994 Former President Reagan disclosed he had Alzheimer's disease.

My fellow Americans, I have recently been told that I am one of the millions of Americans who will be afflicted with Alzheimer's disease.

Upon learning this news, Nancy and I had to decide whether as private citizens we would keep this a private matter or whether we would make this news known in a public way. In the past, Nancy suffered from breast cancer and I had my cancer surgeries. We found through our open disclosures we were able to raise public awareness. We were happy that as a result, many more people underwent testing. They were treated in early stages and able to return to normal, healthy lives.

So now we feel it is important to share it with you. In opening our hearts, we hope this might promote greater awareness of this condition. Perhaps it will encourage a clearer understanding of the individuals and families who are affected by it.

At the moment I feel just fine. I intend to live the remainder of the years God gives me on this Earth doing the things I have always done. I will continue to share life's journey with my beloved Nancy and my family. I plan to enjoy the great outdoors and stay in touch with my friends and supporters.

Unfortunately, as Alzheimer's disease progresses, the family often bears a heavy burden. I only wish there was some way I could spare Nancy from this painful experience. When the time comes, I am confident that with your help she will face it with faith and courage.

In closing, let me thank you, the American people, for giving me the great honor of allowing me to serve as your president. When the Lord calls me home, whenever that day may be, I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours and eternal optimism for its future.

I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life. I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead.

Thank you, my friends. May God always bless you.

Ronald Reagan

22 posted on 11/05/2004 6:36:16 AM PST by SAMWolf (Whapped upside the head with a lime . . . another drive-by fruiting.)
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To: SAMWolf

Yes, your right Sam..


23 posted on 11/05/2004 6:37:55 AM PST by The Mayor (The fires of life will not destroy you if you're watered by the River of Life.)
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To: Valin; stand watie

We missed stand watie's Birthday?!?!?! :-(

Happy belated Birthday.


24 posted on 11/05/2004 6:38:14 AM PST by SAMWolf (Whapped upside the head with a lime . . . another drive-by fruiting.)
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To: The Mayor

Of course some of that "excitement" I could do without ;-)


25 posted on 11/05/2004 6:38:48 AM PST by SAMWolf (Whapped upside the head with a lime . . . another drive-by fruiting.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
We had our first frost here as well. It looks like we'll be in the lower 70's for highs today but the nights have started getting cooler.

How's it going, Snippy?

26 posted on 11/05/2004 6:49:18 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; The Mayor; Samwise; Matthew Paul; PhilDragoo; ...

Good morning everyone!

27 posted on 11/05/2004 7:01:49 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~Poetry is my forte.~)
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To: SAMWolf

I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead.


Indeed!


28 posted on 11/05/2004 7:06:48 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: endthematrix

Wonderful photos of the Junkers. $100 dollars for a frying pan? I'll stick to cast iron. :-)

Welcome to the Foxhole.


29 posted on 11/05/2004 7:16:34 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: alfa6
Oh goody an Aeroplane Thread on the Foxhole and I am at work

LOL. We'll wait on you to get home.

30 posted on 11/05/2004 7:18:26 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Aeronaut

Good morning Aeronaut.


31 posted on 11/05/2004 7:18:57 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor
Our lives are subject to detours and corrections that we never expected or imagined.

Ain't that the truth.

Good morning Mayor.

32 posted on 11/05/2004 7:21:33 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: GailA

Good morning Gail.


33 posted on 11/05/2004 7:22:40 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: bentfeather

Morning Feather


34 posted on 11/05/2004 7:28:03 AM PST by SAMWolf (Whapped upside the head with a lime . . . another drive-by fruiting.)
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To: Valin
I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead.

If the Libs ever figure out doom and gloom and hate America doesn't work, we may have a harder time beating them.

35 posted on 11/05/2004 7:29:23 AM PST by SAMWolf (Whapped upside the head with a lime . . . another drive-by fruiting.)
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To: Valin
THANKS!

i got the BEST of all possible b'day presents = the HUMILIATION & FINAL demise of the DIMocRATS as a national party.

the DIMS are DONE. you may now stick a fork in them & take them off the grill.

free dixie,sw

36 posted on 11/05/2004 8:08:25 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: SAMWolf
and i GOT a WONDERFUL present = the DAMNyankee from TAXatuecetts CONCEDED & took the DIMocRATS down with him.

free dixie,sw

37 posted on 11/05/2004 8:10:07 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: snippy_about_it
GM, snippy!

free dixie HUGS, duckie & sw

38 posted on 11/05/2004 8:24:35 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: bentfeather
GM, miss feather!

free dixie HUGS, duckie/sw

39 posted on 11/05/2004 8:26:33 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie

GM sw and duckie!!!


free dixie, bf


40 posted on 11/05/2004 8:35:03 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~Poetry is my forte.~)
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