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The FReeper Foxhole Reviews "The Myth of the 5 Dead Rebel Generals" - October 30th, 2004
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Posted on 10/30/2004 12:06:05 AM PDT by snippy_about_it
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The Myth of the 5 Dead Rebel Generals
They were killed at Franklin, all right, but it's not true that all five were laid out on the same porch. by Col. Campbell H. Brown
General John B. Hood on November 30, 1864, launched one of his typically ill-considered attacks on the Federal entrenched position at Franklin, Tennessee. Stanley Horn writes: "...in the last two hours of the day... the combat was waged with a maniacal desperation witnessed on no other field of the war." The Confederates suffered a staggering loss--four times as great as that of Pickett at Gettysburg. In no other battle were so many general officers put out of action: for the Confederates, twelve, of whom five were killed outright and one mortally wounded.
Historians have claimed that after the battle the bodies of Major General Patrick R. Cleburne and Brigadier Generals John Adams, states Rights Gist, Hiram B. Granbury, and Otho F. Strahl were brought in from the bloody field and laid out side by side on the small porch of "Carnton," ancestral McGavock home.
Major General Patrick Ronayne Cleburne
John R. Peacock of High Point, North Carolina, by sound reasoning and the use of a hitherto unpublished source, now concludes that this widely accepted story is not altogether correct. It is true that there were five bodies on Mrs. John McGavock's porch, and three of them were generals: Cleburne, Granbury, and Strahl. The others were Colonel R. B. Young, General Granbury's chief of staff, and Lieutenant John H. Marsh, aide to General Strahl. The five bodies were removed, probably on 1 or 2 December, to Columbia and a day later were interred in Rose Hill Cemetery.
Brigadier General John Adams
Major General Lucius J. Polk, former adjutant general of Tennessee, was outraged when he heard that the five heroes had been buried in that portion of the cemetery set aside as a potters' field for the interment of criminals and indigents. With the aid of Chaplain Charles t. Quintard he had the five officers disinterred and moved to the cemetery of St. John's Church near his home at Ashwood. Later three were again moved to cemeteries at their homes; but the bodies of Young and Marsh still rest at St. John's. Brigadier General Arthur H. Manigault, also a casualty of Franklin, was likewise carried to Polk's home, Hamilton Place, but he survived.
Brigadier General States Rights Gist
Brigadier General John Adams, a native of Nashville, had married a girl at Pulaski. Consequently when he fell at Franklin the sorrowing members of his brigade took him in a wagon to Pulaski, where he was buried on December 1. As Mr. Peacock points out, there was scarcely time for a stopover on McGavock's porch en route. Thomas R. Markham, chaplain of Featherston's brigade, averred, however, that Adams, who was killed at the moment of crossing the Federal barricade, was picked up in an ambulance and taken to the McGavock home.
Brigadier General Hiram B. Granbury
Wiley Howard, body servant to General Gist, gave an account to a biographer of the Gist family in which he says that he searched the field for the body of the general, who he had been told had fallen. He found Gist, who had died at 8:30 p.m. at the brigade field hospital, which had been set up near the home of Judge White (still standing at 724 Fair Street in Franklin). With the help of the brigade surgeon he secured a cedar box as a coffin, which he loaded into an ambulance. He drove to Mrs. White's front door and begged permission to bury the general in the White family cemetery. Mrs. White had the body brought into her parlor, and summoned a minister who held a funeral attended by officers and men from Georgia and South Carolina troops of Gist's brigade. The remains were then buried in the family cemetery. As the army passed back through Franklin after its defeat at Nashville, Wiley or some member of Gist's staff disinterred the body and shipped it to Columbia, South Carolina, where it was buried under a big cedar tree (which I remember) in the family plot in Trinity Churchyard, near the State House.
Brigadier General Otho F. Strahl
Thus, although in war the bodies of the fallen usually receive only temporary field burial and for various reasons become "unknown" dead, in this case the dead generals did receive proper care, and their resting places are known today.
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To: Professional Engineer
I'd rather have a fighter in time of war than a "politician"
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:04:50 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(MEETINGS - A practical alternative to work.)
To: snippy_about_it
The Sam skool of spelling. :-)
82
posted on
10/30/2004 8:05:19 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(MEETINGS - A practical alternative to work.)
To: Matthew Paul
Evening Matt. We were sort of figuring on something like this, it may backfire and help Bush. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:06:44 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(MEETINGS - A practical alternative to work.)
To: CholeraJoe
Evening CholeraJoe
I think it was bulldozed to put in a Nissan factory.
Figures.
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:07:59 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(MEETINGS - A practical alternative to work.)
To: Matthew Paul
You can buy votes here for a pack of cigarettes, just round up the "homeless" and take them to the polls by the van full. A favorite Democrat trick, also "helping" people in old age homes to vote works for them.
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:10:06 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(MEETINGS - A practical alternative to work.)
To: Grzegorz 246
86
posted on
10/30/2004 8:10:33 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(MEETINGS - A practical alternative to work.)
To: Valin
LOL! Well,I was writing a rebuttal, but I got distracted.
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:11:42 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(MEETINGS - A practical alternative to work.)
To: alfa6
They may be old fangled but nothing sounds like a prop engine under power. :-)
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:12:52 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(MEETINGS - A practical alternative to work.)
To: alfa6; snippy_about_it; Valin; Matthew Paul; Professional Engineer; bentfeather; SAMWolf; ...
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:17:25 PM PDT
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Samwise
(Proud to be a Security Mom married to a NASCAR Dad)
To: SAMWolf
These sorts of things happen. I like to think of it as being very aware of the world around us.
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:22:20 PM PDT
by
Valin
(Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
To: Samwise
Nice job on that Jack -O- Lantern!
You have a lot more patience than I do.
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:32:57 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(MEETINGS - A practical alternative to work.)
To: Valin
I like that excuse, I'm going to start using it.
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:33:53 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(MEETINGS - A practical alternative to work.)
To: SAMWolf
You have a lot more patience than I do. Not me. I just take pictures.
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:36:13 PM PDT
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Samwise
(Proud to be a Security Mom married to a NASCAR Dad)
To: alfa6
ROUND ENGINES!!
pant, pant, pant
To: SAMWolf
IMHO that's the difference between a public servant and a professional politician.It really slaps you in the face, when you read what the Founders intended the guv'mint to be, and what's become.
To: CholeraJoe
I think it was bulldozed to put in a Nissan factory. The old Sewart Air Force Base. The airstrip is still there along with some of the hangars and maintenance buildings. I believe the airfield is still used by a few charter and freight companies as well as an aircraft refurbisher. Up until a few years ago it was the regular home of the Nashville Aviation Days airshow. The old officer's golf course is now the Smyrna municipal course.
The Nissan plant is built on the southeast edge of the former base property, toward Murfreesboro. This was probably base residential and buffer area.
To: SAMWolf
To: Samwise; msdrby
Nice punkins. We somehow missed getting any this tear. ;-(
To: Professional Engineer
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posted on
10/30/2004 8:49:37 PM PDT
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Samwise
(Proud to be a Security Mom married to a NASCAR Dad)
To: Samwise
Oh dear, I fear I misspelled year.
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