Posted on 07/29/2004 11:01:05 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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The Warsaw Uprising of 1944 commenced on August 1. It was on that date that the Polish underground, the Armia Krajowa (Home Army), aware that the Soviet Army had reached the eastern bank of the Vistula River, sought to liberate Warsaw. Because the last thing the Soviets wanted to deal with was an armed and victorious Polish non-communist military force, they halted their offensive. They remained on the opposite bank of the river but provided no assistance or aid to the Uprising. Instead they gave the Germans free reign to suppress it. It is estimated that during the ensuing 63 days, 250,000 perished in the ruins of Warsaw. Eventually, the Home Army surrendered to the Germans. After the Germans forced all the surviving civilian population to also leave the city, Hitler ordered that any buildings left standing be dynamited. In the end, 98% of buildings in Warsaw were destroyed Captured German prisoners of war being marched off under Home Army guard Many Poles blame the failure of the uprising on the Russians. After the Tehran Conference Russo-Polish relations were believed to be improved. The AK on the eve of the uprising was aware that the Soviet Army was approaching Warsaw. They expected them to enter anywhere between August 1st and August 4th. Unfortunately, the Soviets did not enter Warsaw until January 1945, five months later. Adults and children building a barricade at the corner of Dluga and Klinski Streets Many Polish historians say that the Russians purposely waited until the AK was suppressed so that they would be able to enter and take Warsaw for themselves. While the Soviets probably did want to take Warsaw, this was a secondary objective. Their first objective was to drive the Germans as far west as possible and occupy as much Polish and German territory as they could in a short period of time. Therefore, it was an inconvenience for them to stop at the outskirts of Warsaw to wait for three months if they were physically able to advance. The Russians claim that they were stopped by the German Army. By the time the Russians reached Warsaw the Germans had sent four extra tank divisions to stop the advancing Russians. General Heinz Guderian stated, "We Germans had the impression that it was our defenses that halted the enemy rather than a Russian desire to sabotage the Warsaw Uprising." It was the perception of the Russians that a military halt would allow the United States and England to seize the bulk of German territory. The Soviet gains would then depend upon the location of the Russian Army at the end of the war. The Warsaw Uprising fell short of its goal. But the blame can not be focused on any one nation or group of people. The blame falls on everyone. Roosevelt could have taken more time and influence to negotiate the future boundaries of Poland instead of depending on the UN to settle the Polish question. The English, who would not take a stand on most issues without the approval of the United States, could have taken a firmer stand against Russian Diplomacy. The Polish government in London also failed to provide the AK with pertinent information. Because the main concern was weapons, ammunition and possibly ground support the Soviets would not have provided these due to their objective to take Warsaw. They opposed the Polish government in exile and they wanted to occupy as much territory as possible. They could not have accomplished this if they collaborated with the AK It was foolish to think that the Soviets would have provided the Poles with guns and ammunition which later could have been used against them. This is one reason why the Russians failed to recognize the AK as a combatant group. Independent national interest ultimately led to the failure of the Warsaw Uprising. Moreover, I believe the Uprising was worthwhile, no matter that it failed. Unfortunately many people died during this rising, but many people would have died without the uprising. Some may ask, why not wait for the Soviets to liberate Poland? The answer is simple. Russia invaded Poland in 1939. They were hostile to them throughout the war killing tens of thousands of Polish officers. Only when Germany attacked Russia in 1941 did the Soviets look at Poland as an ally. After Germany was no longer a threat to Russia, Stalin once again began eliminating Polish resistance. The question should be why was the Polish government so naive as to depend so much on Stalin's Army? Under Soviet liberation Poland was allowed to keep its name but its soul was stolen from them. The Uprising was worthwhile because it established Polish identity in a time when Poland was practically wiped off the map. Peaceful negotiations obviously did not accomplish the desired results, Resistance was the only option opened to the Poles. They wanted independence as they have always wanted it in the past and no one was able to give it to them or even help them achieve it. Poland gained its independence after World War I through the Treaty of Versaille. After World War 11, Poland was not afforded this luxury. I believe the resistance movement and every other act of independence throughout history, on the part of the Polish nation is an example that Poland exists and will always exist in body, mind and spirit. And it is in my opinion that these acts of resistance led to the liberation of Poland in the 1980's. Martin Stankiewicz |
Thanks for revisiting the Warsaw Uprising, Snippy.
Your dad was there. And Poland is grateful to him and all who fought. How could we not remember. ;-)
Thank Snippy. Good Night.
Thanks for the PING...any AMERICAN PATRIOT treads on the "up and coming" list to look for?
Early morning Bump for later reading
Regards
alfa6 ;>}
I'm entertaing guests. My sister came down from Georiga with her son. They're visiting my aunt and her family who's visiting from California.
Read: Isaiah 55:6-13
My word . . . shall not return to Me void, but it shall accomplish what I please. Isaiah 55:11
Bible In One Year: Psalms 51-53; Romans 2
They know Tom Dotson pretty well in the prisons of Michigan. They ought to. He spent more than a decade behind bars.
Tom gave his testimony at the annual banquet for prison chaplains in Muskegon, Michigan. He said he had grown up in a Christian home but had rebelled and rejected the gospel. His wife, who sang at the banquet, stayed with him in spite of his repeated failures. A prison chaplain faithfully worked with him, Tom genuinely surrendered to Jesus Christ, and his life was changed.
Dotson urged Christian workers,Continue on in your ministry with people like me, no matter how frustrating. We may have lots of setbacks. But dont give up. Theres power for change in even the most frustrating person through the sacrifice of Christ, the One who really sets us free.Then, looking right at the chaplain who had patiently witnessed to him, Tom said tenderly, Thank you for not giving up on me."
God will abundantly pardonall who come to Him (Isaiah 55:7). His powerful Word can bring change (v.11), freeing men and women from the prison of sin (John 8:32).
Are you about to give up on someone you think will never change? Dont! Keep at it! Dave Egner
Great thread, snippy. Still high on the adrenaline from yesterday's news about my daughter.
On This Day In History
Birthdates which occurred on July 30:
1818 Emily Bront England, novelist (Wuthering Heights)
1815 Thomas Jackson Rodman, Bvt Brig General (Union volunteers)
1837 Elon John Farnsworth, Brig General (Union volunteers), died in 1863
1855 James Edward Kelly US, sculptor "Sculptor of American History"
1857 Thorstein Veblen US, economist (Theory of the Leisure Class-1899)
1863 Henry Ford Dearborn Township, Mich, auto maker (Ford)
1880 Robert Rutherford McCormick US, editor/publisher Chicago Tribune
1887 Timothy Mara NFL owner (NY Giants)
1889 Vladimir Zworykin electronics engineer/inventor, father of TV
1890 Casey Stengel NY Yankee (1949-60) & 1st NY Met manager
1899 Gerald Moore England, pianist (Am I Too Loud)
1909 Cyril Northcote Parkinson England, historian (Pursuit of Progress)
1924 William Gass Fargo, ND, novelist, philosopher (Omensetter's Luck)
1929 Christine McGuire Middletown Oh singer (McGuire Sisters-Sugartime)
1929 Sid Kroft Athens Greece, puppeteer (Barbara Mandrell Show)
1930 Thomas Sowell, author/activist/really smart guy
1933 Edd "Kookie" Byrnes LA, actor (77 Sunset Strip, Jack the Ripper)
1934 Bud Selig, owner (Milw Brewers)/acting baseball commissioner
1934 Ben Piazza Ark, actor (Blues Brothers, Ben Casey, Dallas)
1936 Ralph Taeger Richmond Hill NY, actor (Klondike, Acapulco, Hondo)
1936 George "Buddy" Guy, US blues guitarist (Stone Crazy)
1939 Eleanor Smeal heads National Organization for Women
1939 Peter Bogdanovich director/producer (The Last Picture Show)
1940 Patricia Schroeder (Rep-D-Colo)
1941 Count Desmond (Edward Benjamin) Binghamton NY, sword swallower
1941 Paul Anka Ottawa Ontario, singer (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
1945 David Sanborn saxophonist (David Letterman)
1947 Arnold Schwarzenegger Austria, body builder/actor/politican (Commando, Terminator)
1947 William Atherton Ct, actor (Real Genius, Ghostbusters, Class of 44)
1950 Frank Stallone NYC, actor (Barfly, Outlaw Force)
1956 Delta Burke Orlando Fla, actress (Suzanne-Designing Women)
1958 Daley Thomas London, Decathalete (Olympic-gold-1980, 1984)
1958 Kate Bush Plumstead England, singer/songwriter (Wild Things)
1963 Monique Gabrielle LA Cal, actress (Bad Girls 4, Amazon Women on Moon)
1977 Suangsuda Rodprasert, Miss Thailand Universe (1997)
Morning alfa6.
Morning E.G.C.
I'm going to be leaving for the day in a bit. Going up to the Seattle area for the day. See you all later tonight.
Good morning Mayor.
Have enough coffee there to fill a thermos?
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