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Ron Paul: Bailouts Will 'Destroy the Dollar'
NewsMax ^ | 2008-12-11 | Jim Meyers

Posted on 12/11/2008 6:17:52 PM PST by rabscuttle385

U.S. Representative and former presidential candidate Ron Paul tells Newsmax that bailouts of U.S. corporations are “bad morally” — and says current federal economic policies “will literally destroy the dollar.”

He also insists that the use of “counterfeit” paper money instead of a gold-backed currency is “insane,” and declares it is “foolhardy” for Barack Obama to propose national health care under the present economic conditions.

The Texas legislator ran for president as the Libertarian candidate in 1988, and sought the Republican presidential nomination beginning in March 2007. He withdrew this past June and did not endorse GOP candidate John McCain.

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TOPICS: General Discussion; Issues
KEYWORDS: 110th; americans; bailout; bailoutnation; communists; congress; dollar; economy; financialcrisis; politics; ronpaul; usgovernment
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To: metmom

Destroying the dollar is part of the reason for the bailout. - They want to unify currencies to give the global tyrants more control.


21 posted on 12/11/2008 7:18:33 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: cripplecreek
"The “kook” happens to be right more than wrong lately."

Never known Ron Paul to be wrong on anything regarding economics.

22 posted on 12/11/2008 7:20:46 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: editor-surveyor

He was part of my dream team cabinet as treasury secretary.


23 posted on 12/11/2008 7:25:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

I would have picked Larry Bates for Treasury. He accurately predicted this crash six years ago, to within three months of its actual incipience.


24 posted on 12/11/2008 7:31:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: rabscuttle385
Ron Paul: Bailouts Will 'Destroy the Dollar'

Uh, Ron?? How much more does it need to be destroyed? In the 20s (I believe), we went off the gold standard. In the 60s, we went off the silver standard.

Today, the dollar is worth only what Congress says it is - based on that, I consider the dollar already destroyed!!!

25 posted on 12/11/2008 7:41:39 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: rabscuttle385; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ..



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26 posted on 12/11/2008 8:07:13 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: DustyMoment

Gold standard for citizens was ended in 1933 and 1971 was the end of all ties of the dollar to gold. I’m not totally sure about silver, but I know we stopped putting it in quarters in 1964... coincidentally I haven’t been able to find any quarters from 1964. Too bad.


27 posted on 12/11/2008 8:28:27 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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To: djsherin

Gold standard for citizens was ended in 1933 and 1971 was the end of all ties of the dollar to gold. I’m not totally sure about silver, but I know we stopped putting it in quarters in 1964... coincidentally I haven’t been able to find any quarters from 1964. Too bad.
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In economics we say:

Gresham’s law: Bad money pushes out good money.


28 posted on 12/11/2008 9:15:08 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington
People hoard the “good” money (silver based) and use the clad crapola for commerce. When the currency collapses they have the silver money hidden at the bottom of the sock drawer. Happens very time.
29 posted on 12/11/2008 9:16:20 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: rabscuttle385; ex-Texan
The trillions in taxpayer bailouts (handouts) are/have economically decimated America, but those trillions are massively enriching the select few (Paulson's personal big banking cohorts), since there is absolutely no oversight and zero accountability regarding where these massive amounts of tax money have disappeared. Investigating newly opened Swiss bank accounts would be advised for starters.

With Paulson & his Goldman Sachs arch-manipulating insiders, soon to be rolled over to the Obama version & his collection Goldman Sachs 'advisors' (chosen for him), we might as well be existing in a slightly different version of Putin's financial dictatorship.

30 posted on 12/11/2008 11:26:18 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: rabscuttle385

If folks here by now are not buying gold and silver, then they need to just shut the **** up when it all goes down.

It is like those flashing signs that cover the whole overpass telling you “YOU ARE ABOUT TO HAVE A BAD WRECK!”

Not much way to avoid it. Just be sure you and the family are buckled in, all items securely stowed, both hands on the wheel, and reduce your speed. You might survive. The average american is screaming along at 80, rifling thru the glovebox for some breathmints while flipping thru the radio looking for that replay of the latest tune, while the kids are bouncing around with the dog and the dvd players in the back seat. It is going to be messy.


31 posted on 12/12/2008 2:35:14 AM PST by slnk_rules (http://mises.org)
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To: April Lexington

Exactly. And they have the nerve to call it ‘junk’ silver lol!

I prefer .999 pure rounds.


32 posted on 12/12/2008 3:20:43 AM PST by ovrtaxt (It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be coming up it. ~Henry Allen)
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To: April Lexington

Overvalued bad money pushes out undervalued good money.


33 posted on 12/12/2008 4:09:49 AM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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To: randomhero97
"In before *ron paul is a kook*"

I think that most of the kooks are some of his followers. Some of them are like the ones that worship the Obamamessiah. They think he can do no wrong. In the above case, Paul is absolutely correct. These bailouts are getting ridiculous.

I'm glad that a lot of the Republicans thumbed their noses at Bush's pressuring tactics to vote for the auto bailout. I only wish they would have done the same when Shifty Paulson was pressuring them by saying that there would be marshal law if they didn't pass the bank bailout. I guess they never heard of hyperbole before. Now shifty got his money to his buddies and they have woken up. Oh well, better late than never.
34 posted on 12/12/2008 4:49:22 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden (I)
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To: editor-surveyor

It seems a lot of people here say they agree with him on economics, but not foreign policy - not sure if this is where you stand. I feel that this is an untenable position because the two cannot be isolated. As Ron Paul regularly points out, large deficit spending overseas has a negative effect on our economy.


35 posted on 12/12/2008 7:43:44 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Where I differ with Ron Paul is on his unrealistic stance on the Iraq war. Other points of his foreign policy position are on target, and are in fact the only reality based understanding of foreign policy.


36 posted on 12/12/2008 9:08:19 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: rabscuttle385

If the dollar is so doomed, then how did I just fill up my car’s gas tank for $20? Could it be that Paul is wrong once again.


37 posted on 12/12/2008 1:02:21 PM PST by Momma Republican
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To: Momma Republican; editor-surveyor; djsherin
If the dollar is so doomed, then how did I just fill up my car’s gas tank for $20?

How much did it cost you to fill up your gas tank ten years ago? Twenty? I'll bet that it was a lot less than $20.

The current U.S. dollar is as doomed as the Continental dollar was after the Revolution.

38 posted on 12/12/2008 3:50:21 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

What will it do to the shrimp industry? ‘Cause we all know he’s an expert on shrimp.


39 posted on 12/12/2008 3:52:39 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Momma Republican

Currently banks are contracting loans and not renewing many of them which is heavily decreasing supply. On the demand side, a lot of companies are selling off their hard assets for liquidity which is causing demand for the dollar to temporarily spike, thus increasing its purchasing power and decreasing prices. The money creation has been at the base level, the bank reserves. Once de-leveraging stops and demand subsides, the fear is banks will begin loaning again, but this time with vastly expanded reserves which will rapidly increase the money supply back to and far beyond what it currently was at the beginning of this crisis.


40 posted on 12/12/2008 5:50:02 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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