Ron Paul’s inclusive message attracting African American voters (HUGE black voter shift)

USA Daily ^ | 10-25-2007 | Maple Brown

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Ron Paul’s inclusive message attracting African American voters
Maple Brown, USA Daily
Published 10/25/2007 - 11:34 a.m. EDT

Ron Paul’s inclusive message of peace, freedom, and prosperity may be attracting African American voters. According to this poll, Ron Paul leads his GOP opponents among black voters in general election contests.

In general election matches Paul loses among African American voters 60% to 33% against Hillary Clinton and loses 61% to 31% to Barack Obama.

In 2004 CNN exit polls show Bush receiving 11% of the African American vote in the general election against Kerry.

The averages of general election match up against either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama are for Paul, Romney, McCain or Giuliani are, Ron Paul - 32%, Mitt Romney - 23.5%, John McCain - 20%, Rudy Giuliani - 16%.

If the polls are accurate it could mean that Ron Paul’s message that ‘Freedom unites people’ is working. Paul’s uncompromising defense of the Bill of Rights is making him a Civil Rights Leader in his own right. ("Ron Paul inspiring new Civil Rights movements")

The poll, if accurate, could also mean that Ron Paul’s message of ‘repealing the police state’ is resonating with African American voters.

Paul does appear to be a uniting political force attracting supporters at his events from all walks of life.

USA Daily does not encourage its readers to allow polls to influence their voting decisions in any way. They are too often inaccurate. This statement is not a comment on the poll in question just on polling in general. (Discuss the election on www.usadaily.net)

[Revelation 911]

ok -so which of those statements is wrong

[Revelation 911]

thats a really racist comment

[listenhillary]

Is this a racist comment?

“Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market,
individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action. I know many who fall into this group personally and they deserve credit—not as representatives of a racial group, but as decent people. They are, however, outnumbered.

Of black males in Washington, D.C, between the ages of 18 and 35, 42% are charged with a crime or are serving a sentence, reports the National Center on Institutions and Alternatives. The Center also reports that 70% of all black men in Washington are arrested before they reach the age of 35, and 85% are arrested at some point in their lives. Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the “criminal justice system,” I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

Taken from the Ron Paul Political Report, 1120 NASA Blvd., Suite 104, Houston, TX 77058 for $50 per year. Call 1-800-766-7285.

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/ftp.py?people/g/gannon.dan/1992/gannon.0793

[drpix]

The question and the point IS: Which one of those (or those in post # 141) make him a "Reagan Republican"?

[Revelation 911]

oh - so it boils down to these two making him a regan repub .....LOL

[Revelation 911]

and the stats are wrong ?

the hats comment is a racist stereotype....be honest admit it

[listenhillary]

Big hats? racist?

[OCCASparky]

Not bad for a guy half a step away from wearing a hood and burning crosses...but still bad for America.

[drpix]

Two? Just in my two posts here, I count 8 Ron Paul quotes attacking Ronald Reagan on his positions on Grenada, Nicaragua, Libya, the CIA, use of the military, the war on drugs and his view of the Constitution. He also opposed practically every Reagan Policy for nonmilitary and non-intelligence means of fighting our enemies - from Radio Free Europe aid to Solidarity and other anti-Soviet groups.

Paul is a extreme liberal democrat when dealing with America's enemies at home and abroad.

[OCCASparky]

"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country!" Guess who said it.
I'll tell you:
United States President Ronald Reagan.

Just one more sample of the truism that EVERYONE makes mistakes.

[listenhillary]

How about this? I agree with this, am I a racist?

The Trouble With Forced Integration

by Rep. Ron Paul, MD

Mr. Speaker, I rise to explain my objection to H.Res. 676 [hailing the 40th anniversary of the 1964 Civil Rights Act]. I certainly join my colleagues in urging Americans to celebrate the progress this country has made in race relations. However, contrary to the claims of the supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the sponsors of H.Res. 676, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over the hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country. The result was a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society. The federal government has no legitimate authority to infringe on the rights of private property owners to use their property as they please and to form (or not form) contracts with terms mutually agreeable to all parties. The rights of all private property owners, even those whose actions decent people find abhorrent, must be respected if we are to maintain a free society.

This expansion of federal power was based on an erroneous interpretation of the congressional power to regulate interstate commerce. The framers of the Constitution intended the interstate commerce clause to create a free trade zone among the states, not to give the federal government regulatory power over every business that has any connection with interstate commerce.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism. Therefore, the only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a business’s workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or judge’s defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing employers to hire by racial quota. Racial quotas have not contributed to racial harmony or advanced the goal of a color-blind society. Instead, these quotas encouraged racial balkanization, and fostered racial strife.

Of course, America has made great strides in race relations over the past forty years. However, this progress is due to changes in public attitudes and private efforts. Relations between the races have improved despite, not because of, the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, while I join the sponsors of H.Res. 676 in promoting racial harmony and individual liberty, the fact is the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not accomplish these goals. Instead, this law unconstitutionally expanded federal power, thus reducing liberty. Furthermore, by prompting raced-based quotas, this law undermined efforts to achieve a color-blind society and increased racial strife. Therefore, I must oppose H.Res. 676.

July 3, 2004

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.

[drpix]

CORRECTION:

from Radio Free Europe aid to Solidarity = from Radio Free Europe TO aid to Solidarity

[Designer]

"I’d rather vote for hillery."

We just don't understand you people.

[Designer]

"..Ron Paul appear to be gaining ground are getting funnierFIRMER by the day."

There, I fixed it.

[mnehring]

Don't be fooled.. Paul is no Conservative. Votes speak louder than rhetoric.

Ron Paul's 2006 American Conservative Union rating: 76% Lifetime Rating: 82.3%

Ron Paul's Voting Record (ya, ya, I know, there is an excuse for all of these, state's rights are more important than stopping abortion and fixing the border, Ronnie is making a statement, or everyone else was voting against it and he was just playing the game, yadda, yadda, yadda)

Here are some more ‘Conservative(sic)’ votes by Paul:

Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes.

Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research.

Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion.

Voted YES on funding for alternative sentencing instead of more prisons.

Voted NO on more prosecution and sentencing for juvenile crime.

Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism.

Voted NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror.

Voted NO on allowing vouchers in DC schools.

Voted NO on passage of the Bush Administration national energy policy.

Voted NO on implementing Bush-Cheney national energy policy.

Voted YES on barring website promoting Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump.

Voted NO on speeding up approval of forest thinning projects.

Voted NO on reforming the UN by restricting US funding.

Voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations.

Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits about obesity against food providers.

Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers

Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse.

Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1.

Voted NO on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan.

Voted NO on $266 billion Defense Appropriations bill.

Voted YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers.

Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers.

Voted NO on promoting work and marriage among TANF recipients.

Voted NO on treating religious organizations equally for tax breaks.

Let's also not forget Paul's Pork Projects (that he voted for before he voted against when he calls them unconstitutional but he is just playing the game when he submits them because everyone else does it.. yadda yadda yadda..)

Paul also supported the NAU superhighway by funding the TransTexas Corridor

[bert]

Why in the world is that a racist comment? Everytime there is video of NAACP or other black political gatherings, the Women in big hats are on prominent display. The big hats have some political meaning and are imkportant to the black political structure.

Without the women in big hats, Paul is in the eddy, not the mainstream.

[Charles Martel]

Why in the world is that a racist comment?

Evidently, it's okay for black comedians, cartoonists, etc. to notice and comment on the "big hats" phenomenon (in a gentle, "poking fun at their own" way) - but if a white person notices the same thing and comments, well, that's gotta be slapped down. You should know how this "selective racism" thing works by now.

[Wallace T.]

African Americans have been more comfortable with anti-establishment whites than with what used to be called "the Man." In the 1890s, the Populist Party, a forerunner of modern liberalism in some respects, gained support among black voters in the South, who had previously been solidly Republican, at a time when both major political parties were dominated by conservatives at the national level. During the 1970s, white men with long hair and beards or mustaches were seen by blacks as less hostile, in a period when that look was regarded as anti-establishment due to its association with the hippie movement. It is not surprising to see such a level of support for Ron Paul, who is the GOP equivalent to Dennis Kucinich in being anti-establishment, than any Republican has had since before the Great Depression. Another factor is Hillary Clinton due to her cold, aloof personality; her husband was called the first black President in part due to his rapport with the African American voter. When she attempts to do likewise, she comes across as a condescending white liberal.

Lots of money raised at the grassroots level and a horde of enthusiastic volunteers do not necessarily translate into primary victories, much less Presidential nominations by major parties. Eugene McCarthy had both in 1968, yet actually lost the New Hampshire primary to a deeply unpopular Lyndon Johnson in the wake of a no win war in Vietnam. He did win the Wisconsin primary at a time when Johnson was effectively withdrawing from the 1968 Democrat primaries, but after Robert Kennedy entered the race, McCarthy's fortunes declined.

Also, even if Ron Paul receives 30-35% of the black vote in the unlikely event he receives the GOP nomination, that may not translate into actual votes, insofar as Democrat political machines from New York to Los Angeles will do what Democrats have specialized in since the 19th Century: stuffing ballot boxes. The Democrats were corrupt even before they became liberal, e.g., Tammany Hall in New York, the Pendergasts in Kansas City, and "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald and Michael Curley in Boston. I doubt many big cities have had an honest election count at any time in living memory.

[Wallace T.]

Ron Paul is right on this matter. In 1964, conservatives opposed the Civil Rights Act on the same grounds that he argues here. Goldwater opposed it, and even a cursory review of mainstream conservative publications like National Review and Human Events from that era would uncover opposition based on interference with freedom of association and property rights, as well as states' rights. It was the RINOs of that era, such as William Scranton, Nelson Rockefeller, and George Romney (father of Mitt Romney), who supported the legislation.