Libertarians Rising

Time Magazine ^ | October 18, 2007 | Michael Kinsley

[Eric Blair 2084]

To oversimplify: Democrats are for Big Government; Republicans are against it.

To oversimplify somewhat less, Democrats aren't always for Big Government, and Republicans aren't always against it. Democrats treasure civil liberties, whereas Republicans are more tolerant of government censorship to protect children from pornography, or of wiretapping to catch a criminal, or of torture in the war against terrorism. War in general and Iraq in particular--certainly Big Government exercises--are projects Republicans tend to be more enthusiastic about. Likewise the criminal process: Republicans tend to want to make more things illegal and to send more people to jail for longer. Republicans also consider themselves more concerned about the moral tone of the country, and they are more disposed toward using the government in trying to improve it. In particular, Republicans think religion needs more help from society, through the government, while Democrats are touchier about the separation of church and state.

Many people feel that neither party offers a coherent set of principles that they can agree with. For them, the choice is whether you believe in Big Government or you don't. And if you don't, you call yourself a libertarian. Libertarians are against government in all its manifestations. Domestically, they are against social-welfare programs. They favor self-reliance (as they see it) over Big Government spending.

[Eric Blair 2084]

To the FReepers in attendance and the millions watching around the world on Pay Per View…Ladies and Gentleman...

LLLLLLLets Get Ready to RRRumblllllllle!!!!

“LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!"® is a registered Trademark of Michael Buffer, all rights reserved.

1,500,000,000 rounds of posts, arguments, insults, cheesy graphics, name calling, and ad hominem personal attacks that pass as debate for the FUTURE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

"Introducing first, to my right, fighting out of the red corner, wearing their Sunday best with a gold crucifix...weighing in at 810 and 1/4 pounds...the social conservatives, the religious right, the champions of family values...from the Southern States...The Evangelicals!" (wild applause)

"And in the blue corner, wearing an off the rack suit, Goldwater ’64 lapel pin and a belt 2 sizes too small...weighing in at 141 pounds soaking wet...the fiscal conservatives, the last champions of limited government...from the Western States...The Libertarians!" (wild applause)

Chapter 1: Live From the Reagan Building

The winner of the bout gets to take on the Neo-Cons for the undisputed GOP Heavyweight Championship of the World!

[Jigajog]

Oh look its little miss kinley here to play act solomon. I thought this guy died. What a fairy.

[mysterio]

In before the keyword vandalism, anti-libertarian name calling, and sloganeering.

[A CA Guy]

Yep out in the movies today!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0389722/

[Oberon]

In before the keyword vandalism, anti-libertarian name calling, and sloganeering.

At least I got to be the first to use the words "Ron Paul."

We'll be hearing shortly that he's a commie socialist lefty moonbat.

[Moleman]

In before somone mentions smoking pot...

[TheRiverNile]

Why am I not allowed to be for BOTH limited government and be a social conservative?

I believe abortion is pretty well summed-up in the Constitution....”life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

The unborn have a right to life via the Constitution.

Other than that, you don’t convert people to Christianity by holding them at gunpoint since Christianity is not about claiming Christianity with words and actions but it is a part of the heart, where the actions follow the heart out of love.

[mysterio]

We need a libertarian thread drinking game.

[Badeye]

When you are forced to cite Mikey Kinsley, its time to go home....

[steel_resolve]

Rhonda Paulette R EVOL ution PING

[Nonstatist]

Democrats treasure civil liberties,

That is a lie. They favor hate thought laws and special rights for favored groups and regulations out the gazoo for personal behavior(no peanuts for sale on airlines!, no due process for divorced males in family court, etc). Pansy Mikey is full of crapola.

[Oberon]

We need a libertarian thread drinking game.

Oooh...Imagine rules like "Every time someone uses the name RuPaul in place of Ron Paul, you have to drink." I think it would just be way too rough on my liver.

Still, it would be fun to develop a scoring system. "Paulestinian" is worth a point, "RuPaul" is worth a point, "Libertards" is worth a point, and so on.

Could anybody beat Petronski?

[Dead Corpse]

All drinking games are libertarian in nature. If it was a “Republican” thing, they’d prohibit it under drug laws. If “Democrat” thing, you couldn’t afford it for all the taxes levied.

[mysterio]

"Loserdopian" and "libertine" should be worth a point.

It wouldn't be a very challenging game, though. Ten posts in we would all be so drunk that we'd have to stop.

[Savage Beast]

"Democrats aren't always for Big Government, and Republicans aren't always against it."

False. True.

And furthermore, the Republican Congress and Bush Administration have outdone the Democrats in increasing the size, reach, intrusiveness, and appetite of that Frankenstein's Monster known as the U.S. Federal Government.

In addition--these Republicans handed Congress to the dangerous, self-serving Democrats on a silver platter in 2006.

That said--and my Libertarian leanings notwithstanding--I am still a one issue man: Defeat the Democrats. And that means vote Republican.

[Berlin_Freeper]

Drinking is not good enough for many libertarians. You need a shooting up game.

[jack_napier]

I’m a libertarian type, but I consider this article to be biased and generally a hunk of crap.

[mysterio]

"Drinking is not good enough for many libertarians. You need a shooting up game."

Nominate nonspecific accusations of drug use for half a point? What say you all?

[BlackElk]

The paleosurrenderman is a commie socialist antilife lefty moonbat while simultaneously being a libertoonian prolife capitalist paleowhatever moonbat while also being an earmark champeen of a “fiscal conservative.” He spins faster than John Kerry in heat.

[-YYZ-]

” Ten posts in we would all be so drunk that we’d have to stop.”

Isn’t that pretty much the point of any drinking game?

Maybe what we need here is “Libertarian Bingo”, along the lines of “buzzword bingo”.