Posted on 09/30/2003 9:32:47 AM PDT by Fifthmark
Is that because most of them don't read it themselves, but merely rely on being TOLD what it all means?
You are extremely judgemental. Did you read St. John Chrysostom's discourse on the difficulties of being a Bishop?
We believe babies are born sinless and graceless. I guess if we can just keep them away from adults, they'll REMAIN that way! |
I guess Paul was wrong......................
Romans 3
10. As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;
11. there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God.
12. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one."
13. "Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit." "The poison of vipers is on their lips."
14. "Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness."
15. "Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16. ruin and misery mark their ways,
17. and the way of peace they do not know."
18. "There is no fear of God before their eyes."
19. Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.
20. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
21. But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.
22. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference,
23. for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (unless they're just babies)
24. and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
25. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished--
26. he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
27. Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith.
28. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.
...he should not have been QUOTING that David fellow!
How many orthodox Catholics are there? This is an issue facing all denominations.
On matters of faith and morals, where the magisterium has spoken, there is no allowance for thinking for yourself.
Canon 752 While the assent of faith is not required, a religious submission of intellect and will is to be given to any doctrine which either the Supreme Pontiff or the College of Bishops, exercising their authentic magisterium, declare upon a matter of faith or morals, even though they do not intend to proclaim that doctrine by definitive act. Christ's faithful are therefore to ensure that they avoid whatever does not accord with that doctrine.
drstevej:
A "good man" does the right thing when it counts.
Hermann:
You are extremely judgemental.
There are none so blind as those who cannot see.
Oh, that is rich.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
This thread is full.
Time to pump this baby out!
It will take about 15 mins to empty, and then y'all can start filling her up again.
This has been a public service announcement.
...you have nothing but caustic sarcasm to hurl at those you don't wish to hear.
Elsie replied
I thought I was mostly 'hurling' Scripture!
You are Elsie and it is doning exactly what it is supposed to do
Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.
Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Seems you have something is common with Elsie he was told
...you have nothing but caustic sarcasm to hurl at those you don't wish to hear.
I do. Just wanted to see what you had to say.
Was that the desert? Did she sprout wings? Did she stay 1260 days ?
Actually, the Immaculate Conception did not exempt Mary from the punishments of Eve - it allowed her to be born full of grace. She was still subject to death and disease since she is human.
So Mary got punished for the sin of Eve? Maybe she IS our savior
He could hardly sanctify childbearing for women ("Yet she shall be saved through child bearing" [1 Timothy 2.14])
She did not REQUIRE sanctification she was sinless remember
BTW I would point out that Mary needed to be cleaned from childbearing (The temple visit)
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