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John Paul II is too liberal; and "the corrosive effects of American culture"
National Catholic Reporter ^ | 8/22/2003 | John L. Allen

Posted on 08/22/2003 1:41:13 PM PDT by sinkspur

Is John Paul II too liberal?

The question cuts against most conventional wisdom. If the man who said “no” to women’s ordination, gay marriage, and decentralization of power isn’t a conservative, many people would insist, then there’s no such animal.

But what if one has in mind not the sense in which Ted Kennedy is “liberal,” but in which virtually all Westerners are “liberals,” i.e., the classic notion of liberalism as belief in democracy, human rights, and free markets? If that’s the standard, then John Paul, though not uncritically, stacks up as a basically “liberal” pope.

Witness his proud claim that Christianity actually shaped the core tenets of liberalism in his August 17 Angelus address: “The Christian faith gave form [to Europe], and some of its fundamental values in turn inspired ‘the democratic ideal and the human rights’ of European modernity,” the Pope said.

Not everyone in the Catholic world approves. Although the movement has largely flown under media radar, John Paul faces a growing conservative opposition to this embrace of liberalism, understood in the classic sense.

“I wish the Pope were right,” said Catholic thinker Robert Kraynak of Colgate University, “but I don’t think it’s working out the way he expected. Human rights are not being used to serve the whole truth about God and man, despite the Pope’s continuous reminders.”

Who are these critics? In addition to Kraynak, they include influential Anglo-Saxon Catholic intellectuals such as Alasdair MacIntyre, David Schindler, and Tracey Rowland, whose works are fast becoming required reading in conservative Catholic circles, even if they represent, for now, a minority view. Most Anglo-Saxon Catholics, as creatures of Western culture, tend to take its compatibility with their religious beliefs for granted.

MacIntyre is a Scottish-born philosopher. Schindler, an American, is the editor of Communio, an international theological journal that serves as a platform for this school of thought. Rowland is dean of the John Paul II Institute in Melbourne, Australia.

Members of the hierarchy such as American Cardinal Francis Stafford, president of the Pontifical Council for the Laity, Archbishop Angelo Scola of Venice, Italy, and Archbishop Marc Ouellet of Quebec, Canada, can also be loosely identified with this circle of opinion.

Make no mistake — these are not “dissenters.” All are strong admirers of John Paul II. (In fact, many teach at “John Paul II” institutes in various parts of the world). All would pass the most stringent tests of orthodoxy. Yet all worry that the Pope, and the bulk of the post-Vatican II Catholic Church, have gone too far in assimilating the values and vocabulary of modernity.

The key figure is MacIntyre, one of the fascinating personalities in 20th century intellectual history. Born the son of a doctor in Glasgow in 1929, MacIntyre studied at the University of London and other British universities, then began teaching. In 1947, he joined the Communist Party, and though he soon left, he continued to flirt with Trotsky-style socialism. In 1969, he moved to the United States where he taught at a succession of universities.

In 1981, MacIntyre published After Virtue, in which he posed his famous choice between Niezstche and Aristotle. Either ethics is the assertion of personal preference, as Nieztsche would have it, or it corresponds to something objectively real, as Aristotle believed.

In 1983, MacIntyre converted to the Catholic Church.

Through these twists and turns, the unifying constant in MacIntyre’s thought has been hostility to the bourgeois values of liberalism. MacIntyre tends to drive secular liberals crazy, since his point of departure is the same alienation from capitalism they feel, yet he arrives in a very different place: Thomism.

MacIntyre argues that when Thomists and secularists refer to human rights, for example, they sound like they’re saying the same thing, but this linguistic resemblance conceals radically different worldviews. Secularists emphasize rights because, having rejected the idea of an objective moral order, they exalt unfettered freedom. What freedom is for gets second shrift.

Kraynak, in his 2001 book Christian Faith and Modern Democracy, lists five reasons why Christianity should be resistant to the ideology of human rights:

Duties to God and neighbor come before one’s own rights.

Pronouncements of a hierarchically structured church grounded in divine revelation take precedence over individual conscience.

Original sin implies distrust of weak and fallible human beings.

The common good must come before individuals.

Charity and sacrificial love are higher goods than the potentially selfish assertion of rights.

Some of these thinkers believe the concept of human rights can be “redeemed” by giving it a Christian content, which is John Paul’s project. Others, such as Kraynak and MacIntyre, believe it would be better to abandon the language of “rights” altogether.

John Paul is himself, of course, no unalloyed booster of liberalism. He coined the phrase “a culture of death” to describe its bioethics, and he has repeatedly criticized its rapacious capitalism. Most Communio-style thinkers are less concerned with the Pope than with the penetration of the liberal worldview into the Church’s bureaucratic structures, especially bishops’ conferences.

Lurking behind such debates is a broader analysis of the relationship between liberalism and Christianity. While “Whig Thomists” such as George Weigel and Michael Novak see a basic consistency, reflecting their drive to reconcile Catholicism with American patriotism, thinkers associated with the Communio school are more dubious. They tend to believe that liberalism is actually toxic for authentic Christian living.

The movement is so loosely organized it does not even have a name. Rowland has proposed “postmodern Augustinian Thomism,” though it’s hard to imagine that on a bumpersticker. Yet its skepticism about the compatibility between faith and culture has profound implications.

On social justice issues, it tends to push the Church into sharper confrontation with economic, political, and military policies based on the classic liberal worldview. Many observers were startled last spring, for example, when Stafford, known as a conservative, came out against the U.S.-led war in Iraq. Anyone familiar with the doubts he harbors about the values of contemporary America, however, should not have been surprised. In that sense, the anti-liberal instinct favors social causes dear to the left, such as pacifism and advocacy for the poor.

At the same time, it tends to side with the right in internal church debates. By accenting what makes Catholicism distinct, it favors traditionalism in liturgy, art and architecture, and theology. It is skeptical about the characteristic structures of liberalism, such as bureaucracy and reliance on so-called “experts.” When the Vatican in April convened a symposium of non-Catholic scientific experts on sexual abuse, for example, the event played to generally good reviews as a sign that Rome was listening. Catholics steeped in MacIntyre’s thought, on the other hand, were dubious, wondering if “experts” who don’t share the Church’s moral and metaphysical assumptions would end up doing more harm than good.

The fear is, as Swiss theologian Hans Urs van Balthasar once warned, “a mere mechanical adoption of alien chains of thought with which one can adorn and garland the Christian understanding externally.”

This counter-cultural movement’s future is yet to be determined, but if nothing else, it illustrates the limits of “conservative” and “liberal” labels in sorting out the currents in the Catholic Church. The perils of liberalism, like so much else, are in the eye of the beholder.

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I reached Kraynak by telephone at Colgate to discuss this negative judgment about Western, especially American, culture.

“I share that to a large degree,” Kraynak said. “The whole Enlightenment underlay is the problem.”

Kraynak argued, in fact, that the sexual abuse scandals in the American Church have their roots here.

“I trace the scandals to the corrosive effect of American culture on the Church,” Kraynak said. “It started with the sexual revolution, plus the unwillingness of the hierarchy to assert its authority in the proper way. They more or less concluded that we share with liberalism a concern for social justice, so sexual ethics aren’t so important.”

I asked if such a sweeping indictment of modern culture doesn’t risk a sort of self-imposed ghetto.

“In the extreme case it might come to that,” Kraynak candidly replied. “If Catholics have to live in a world in which our view of the family, of human sexuality, of raising one’s kids, is considered contemptible by the larger culture, it could come to that in a generation.”

“My parents’ generation lived more like ghetto Catholics than we do. They had an inferiority complex, but spiritually and morally it had many benefits. They were able to live a life that was separate from mass culture, but still part of America. And along with feelings of inferiority, they could take pride in their distinctiveness as ethnic Catholics.”

Kraynak acknowledged that it would be impossible to return to the self-enclosed Catholic world of 1950s-era America, but he said the search for an analogous “safe haven” will intensify if present cultural trends continue.

I asked Kraynak which figures in the American hierarchy he felt were most sympathetic to his concerns. He named Cardinals Francis George and Avery Dulles, along with Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz of Lincoln, Nebraska.

“They are keenly aware of the tensions between Catholicism and American culture, but they are in a minority, as far as I can tell.”

Obviously many Catholics would have reservations about the way Kraynak sizes things up, but he represents an important current of opinion, raising serious questions about the spiritual and moral dangers of consumer culture. This is a familiar discourse from the left; what is intriguing about this movement is that its energy and center of gravity is on the right, seeking to combine doctrinal orthodoxy with a strong counter-cultural impulse.


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1 posted on 08/22/2003 1:41:14 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: NYer; Loyalist
And now the last time, for your lists.
2 posted on 08/22/2003 2:16:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (Get two dogs and be part of a pack!)
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To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Aloysius; AniGrrl; Antoninus; As you well know...; BBarcaro; ...
PING
3 posted on 08/22/2003 2:41:54 PM PDT by Loyalist
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To: sinkspur; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Last time, sink? Is this a duel to the death?
4 posted on 08/22/2003 2:54:46 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: sinkspur
Interesting piece, sinkspur. Thanks.

However, I, for one, can't let your boy get away with this one

Witness his proud claim that Christianity actually shaped the core tenets of liberalism in his August 17 Angelus address: “The Christian faith gave form [to Europe], and some of its fundamental values in turn inspired ‘the democratic ideal and the human rights’ of European modernity,” the Pope said.

The Pope did no such thing. First of all, Allen doesn't define "liberalism" here and, secondly, the Pope is speaking of CHRISTIAN FAITH which is not equivalent to Liberalism, no matter how one defines it, and who is Allen to say what the "core tenets" of such a political construct as "Liberalism" means from day to day.

Whatever it does mean, liberalism certainly does not mean the protection of the individual against the ever-growing Leviathan State.

5 posted on 08/22/2003 3:01:15 PM PDT by As you well know...
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To: sinkspur
Very interesting reading. Thanks for posting this.
6 posted on 08/22/2003 3:29:01 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: Loyalist
Goad and bait and goad and bait and dodge and cry and obfuscate.

Why? What is the purpose of one who throws a CLAIM of clergy in everybody's face while disparaging Popes Leo XIII and ST. Pius X, and the Holy Catholic Church before VII, while jumping for joy at the striking down of a sodomy law in TX, and praisng the removal of the Ten Commandments from American public life and supporting homosexual priests, and disparaging the Church for failing to ordain married men and saying that "Rome is the problem"?

Is there a central purpose behind all of this? There sure seems to be.

Please forgive me if I seem paranoid, and please forgive me if I am just too much of a party-pooper to laugh and dance with the forces of evil. I am sick of it. I am sick of the diabolical charade and perversion and lies.

From now on, my brother, if the thread is nothing more than another of the goadmaster's opportunistic attacks, don't bother pinging me to it.

Dominus tecum
7 posted on 08/22/2003 3:35:12 PM PDT by Thorondir
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To: sinkspur
This is a brilliant analysis. John Allen gets better every time he writes. There is an emerging fault line here which may be below the surface today, but which will grow more visible as time goes on. Alasdair Macintyre is usually ahead of his time, so his critique of Western culture is likely to be prescient. One fact that should have been mentioned in the article: Macintyre was formerly a Marxist, that's why his attitude of opposition to bourgeois culture comes naturally to him.

First Things has published numerous articles on all the topics mentioned. They've written a lot about Alasdair Macintyre and the revival of Thomism. They've been very pro "Whig Catholics" Weigel and Novak. And for a while there was a running feud between Neuhaus and Schindler. First Things has an excellent search engine:

http://www.firstthings.com/menus/search.html
8 posted on 08/22/2003 3:36:48 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: sinkspur
Wow, this is the best and certainly most interesting article Allen ever wrote. He does his best to hide the best part by burying it under the part about the Pope etc.

One issue with the article, though, is that he uses the term ``liberalism'' in too different contexts. On one hand it means, what we would call liberalism today, i.e. the politics of Ted Kennedy. But he obviously refers to classical liberalism too, which many people on this site would agree with- though they wouldn't agree with the former.

9 posted on 08/22/2003 3:39:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: sinkspur
Thanks for posting this.
10 posted on 08/22/2003 3:39:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Thorondir
I think this article is actually making some very relevant points. John Allen's articles have not been your typical left-wing tripe as you would expect from the NCR. Now he is getting even better. First he points out that the pope is fundamentally liberal in a way that previous popes, even liberal ones like Paul VI, were not. Then he makes a very sophisticated analysis of liberal Western culture. Well, if he doesn't make it himself, at least he refers readers to where they can find it: Alastair Macintyre, David Schindler, et al. Have Catholics sold their birthright for a mess of pottage by embracing liberal enlightenment thought and politics? This question was buried under the tide of victory in WWII, but now it is coming back to the fore.
11 posted on 08/22/2003 3:41:49 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: As you well know...
Whatever it does mean, liberalism certainly does not mean the protection of the individual against the ever-growing Leviathan State.

See, that's the problem. Modern political liberalism doesn't mean protection of the individual against the state. But classical liberalism certainly does. After all, Hobbes who gave us the Leviathan was an important influence on those classical liberals, like Locke.

12 posted on 08/22/2003 3:44:13 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
he uses the term ``liberalism'' in too different contexts

The point of people like Schindler is that they're not very different like you think. Once you've accepted Hume, Locke, etc., then you've bought into a system that leads inevitably to where we are today with Teddy Kennedy. Kennedy, after all, is not an original thinker. Today's liberals are the inevitable product of some kind of process. How did we get to where we are today?

13 posted on 08/22/2003 3:45:01 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
It's an important question.
14 posted on 08/22/2003 3:46:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Hobbes who gave us the Leviathan was an important influence on those classical liberals, like Locke.

I wonder if you aren't mis-reading Hobbes. He was in favor of the Leviathan. He believed that only power and authority could hold the state together. Liberalism, even classical liberalism, and the exercise of power have always gone together.

15 posted on 08/22/2003 3:47:33 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
Once you've accepted Hume, Locke, etc., then you've bought into a system that leads inevitably to where we are today with Teddy Kennedy. Kennedy, after all, is not an original thinker.

Is it inevitable? Today's ``liberals''' ideas are almost a complete refutation of the Locke's et al. Now, that doesn't mean that Catholics should accept Hume, Licke et al.

16 posted on 08/22/2003 3:49:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Amen. But, it is even worse as "liberalism" is more of an emotive state than a set of identifiable principles.
17 posted on 08/22/2003 3:51:53 PM PDT by As you well know...
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To: Maximilian
I am trying to remember the name of the Spaniard who wrote "Liberalism is a sin"

U remember?

18 posted on 08/22/2003 3:52:56 PM PDT by As you well know...
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To: Maximilian
More to the point, is their an ``approptiate'' system for Christianity to exist in? It existed in the Roman Empire, which was at times as hostile as possible. Chritianity has to be active in society, and yet separate from it. Would Christianity be better under communism? Probably not. Does that mean capitalism automatically benefits Christians? Probably not completely. Classical liberalism shouldn't be construed as a ``Christian government.'' But might it perhaps be the best system Christians can hope for? The government, society are not supposed to be subsitutes for Christian culture, but maybe they are the least hostile? What are the alternatives?

Of course, some would say living under Roman Empire style repression makes for a better quality of Christain. Maybe they have a point.

19 posted on 08/22/2003 3:56:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Is it inevitable?

That's a good question, and it's the one that occupies the minds of "conservatives" (those that have minds). Was it inevitable that the enlightenment experiment (of which America is unquestionably the preeminent example) would degenerate into the decadence we see today? Or could we have maintained certain enlightenment principles if we had taken a different path in 1861, in 1901, in 1917, in 1931, etc.

The question being raised by these critics, however, is very different from that which would occur to "classical liberals." They are asking instead whether the "inevitability" question is just an intra-necine affair among fellow descendants of the French Revolution, and whether Catholics should stay totally out of the fray because we don't accept ANY of those principles.

Hume was a radical skeptic after all. From a Catholic perspective, is it possible to build any kind of Catholic civilization whatsoever upon that kind of foundation? Hasn't there always been an oil/water incompatibility between enlightenment thought and Catholicism?

At least up through WWII the Church always maintained that there was. But starting with JXXIII and Vatican II, the Church suddenly decided that being opposed to enlightenment principles put you on the losing side of history, and that it was time to jump on the bandwagon. But seeing in hindsight what has happened to Western civilization in the 40 years since then, it looks very much like "buying into the top of the bubble."

20 posted on 08/22/2003 3:58:23 PM PDT by Maximilian
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