[el_chupacabra]

interesting. thanks.

[Wrigley]

FYI.

self bump for read later.

[LiteKeeper]

SPOTREP

[connectthedots]

I just knew this article wasn't posted by fortheDeclaration.

[The Bard]

Below is posted something I posted sometime ago on another thread. It provides a brief explaination on what the differences between the King James and other bibles in use today. Hoefully this will shed a little light.

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A friend once told me that it was the Roman Catholic Church that preserved the Bible, and gave us the current Bibles we use today. He stated "who knows what was actually supposed to be in the Bible as we don’t know what is hidden away in their vaults". This question really intrigued me, and made me wonder myself. I had to do a little research but I pieced together the following (from various web sites, everything from the Vatican web site to several different denominational web sites). This turns out to be a multi-piece answer:

Prior to the King James Bible of 1611, there was not a “Bible” as we know it. There were the Antiochian manuscripts, which consisted of some 5000 Greek, Hebrew and Old Latin manuscripts. In addition to this, there is the Codex Vaticanus (aka Vatican Manuscript). This codex matches (somewhat) with two other sources known as Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Alexandrinus.

The Codex Vaticanus, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Alexandrinus are known as the Minority Texts and originated from Alexandra, Egypt. The 5000+ Antiochian Manuscripts are known as the Majority texts, originating from Antioch, Syria.

The two most prominent of these, Vaticanus, which is sole property of the Roman Catholic Church, and Sinaiticus, are both known to be overwhelmed with errors. It is said that Sinaiticus has been corrected and altered by as many as ten different writers. In Vaticanus is found the evidence of very sloppy workmanship. Time and again words and whole phrases are repeated twice in succession or completely omitted, while the entire manuscript has had the text mutilated by some person or persons who ran over every letter with a pen making exact identification of many of the characters impossible.

Both manuscripts contain uninspired, anti-scriptural books which are not found in any Bible today.

The only place where these error laden, unreliable manuscripts excel is in the quality of the materials used on them. They have good bindings and fine animal skin pages. Their physical appearance, contrary to their worthless texts, are really rather attractive. But then we have all heard the saying, "You can't judge a book by its cover." The covers are beautiful but their texts are reprehensible.

All Bibles today use these three (yes, three!) Minority Manuscripts. The only exception is the Authorized King James Bible, which uses the 5000 greek Antiochian manuscripts Majority texts.

I myself have a personal affection for the King James Bible, so of course I will have a bias, but all my sources agree, if you want to read a Bible that is not influenced by the Vatican, then the King James Bible is it. The only reason the Apocrypha are included in the original 1611 edition is because Martin Luther (who had died a hundred plus years earlier) had voiced that while these were not inspired scripture, they were of good historical reading (later printings eventually removed the Apocrypha from the King James, though you can still order them with it included). The Vatican itself was so against the King James Bible, that in 1605, they attempted to have King James killed (one of Guy Fawkes objectives), hoping to stop the research and printing of the Bible, even hoping to put the Pope or a puppet of the Popes on the English throne.

[A. Patriot]

In my humble opinion, when denominations ordain ministers who have never gone to seminary, the result is "KJV Only" churches and movements.

At "real" seminaries, the history of the development of the Bible is taught.

I don't use the KJV because I find that there are too many archiac words not in use today and it distracts from my understanding of a passage. I don't mind the "thys and thous. I mostly use the New King James version.

When I do research, I use the internet. I go to BibleGateway.com and look at several versions, always including the King James.

[Wallace T.]

Beyond the Ruckmanite cult and the LDS Church, there are two distinct groups of KJV advocates. The hard core group, mostly represented in Independent Baptist circles, with representative advocates like Gail Riplinger and institutions like Anderson-Hyles College in Indiana, believe that the KJV is itself as divinely inspired and as perfect as were the original autographs.

The soft core group, which has advocates among independent Baptists, some Holiness and Pentecostal believers, and very conservative Presbyterians, especially in the Reconstructionist camp, cast doubt upon the accuracy of the modern scholarly texts, as they combine doubtful manuscripts of Alexandrian origin, or from the Vatican archives, with the "purer" Antiochian text from which the Textus Receptus was derived. To them, non-English translations such as Luther's German Bible and the Spanish Reina-Valera, and even the New King James version, are good translations because they are based on "good" (Textus Recptus) manuscripts.

The hard core group is extra-Biblical in believing that the KJV translators were uniquely divinely inspired. The soft core group has premises that are more intellectually defensible. It is worthy to note that study Bibles associated with the most conservative theologians, such as John MacArthur (Calvinist and dispensational), R.C. Sproul (Reformed), and W.A. Criswell (conservative Southern Baptist) used the NKJV text.

[Bellflower]

Ping for later read. You seem to misunderstand the issue of the scripts and have vastly oversimplefied the issue.

[A. Patriot]

I made a point earlier that there are archaic words in the KJV no longer in use today and they are a distraction in reading the Word. I found a list of them. I realize many of these terms are understood today, but others are totally foreign. Many terms can also be interperated by context. 1 Sam. 30:13 "agone" = "ago".

I would like to see a KJV with a dictionary included to define these words which were used in England 400 years ago.



1. Adamant -- Ezek. 3:9; Zech. 7:12.
2. Abject -- Psalm 35:15.

3. Agone -- 1 Sam. 30:13.
4. Alamoth -- 1 Chron. 15:20.

5. Almug -- 1 Kings 10:11-12.
6. Aloes -- Prov. 7:17; John 19:39.

7. Ambassage -- Luke 14:32.
8. Ambushment -- 1 Chron. 13:13

9. Amerce -- Deut. 22:19.
10. Angle -- Isa. 19:8; Hab. 1:15.

11. Anon -- Matt. 13:20; Mark 1:30.
12. Apothecary -- Exo. 30:25, 35; 37:29

13. Ariel -- Isa. 29:1,2,7.
14. Armhole -- Jer. 38:12.

15. Artificer -- 1 Chron. 29:5.
16. Assay -- Job 4:2; Acts 9:26.

17. Asswage -- Job 16:5.
18. Astonied -- Ezra 9:4.

19. Assupim -- 1 Chron. 26:15,16.
20. Attent -- 2 Chron. 6:40; 7:15.

21. Aul -- Exo. 21:6.
22. Balances -- Lev. 19:36; Jer. 32:10.

23. Bald Locust -- Lev. 11:22.
24. Bason -- 2 Chron. 4:8; Exo. 24:6.

24. Beeves -- Lev. 22:19; Num. 31:28
25. Behemoth -- Job 40:15.

26. Bekah -- Exo. 38:26.
27. Besom -- Isa. 14:23.

28. Bestead -- Isa. ;8:21.
29. Betimes -- Gen. 26:31; Job 8:5.

30. Bewray -- Isa. 16:3; Prov. 29:24.
31. Bittern -- Isa. 34:11; Zeph. 2:14.

32. Blain -- Exo. 9:9,10.
33. Bloody Flux -- Acts 28:8.

34. Bolled -- Exo. 9:31.
35. Bondman -- Gen. 44:33

36. Botch -- Deut. 28:27,35.
37. Bray -- Job 6:5; Prov. 27:22.

38. Breeches -- Exo. 38:42; Lev. 16:4.
39. Brigandine -- Jer. 46:4.

40. Broidered -- Ezek. 16:10; Exo. 28:4.
41. Bruit -- Jer. 10:22; Nahum 3:19

42. Buckler -- 2 Sam. 22:31; Song 4:4.
43. Burning Ague -- Lev. 26:16.

44. Byword -- 2 Chron. 7:20; Psalm 44:14.
45. Cab -- 2 Kings 6:25.

46. Calamus -- Ezek. 27:19; Exo. 30:23.
47. Calves of our lips -- Hos. 14:2.

48. Camphire -- Song of Sol. 1:14; 4:13.
49. Canker -- 2 Tim. 2:17.

50. Cankerworm -- Joel 1:4; Nahum 3:15.
51. Carbuncle -- Exo. 28:17; Ezek. 28:13.

52. Cassia -- Exo. 30:24; Psalm 45:8.
53. Cast in the teeth -- Matt. 27:44.

54. Castor and Polux -- Acts 28:11.
55. Caul -- Isa. 3:18; Lev. 3:4

56. Censer -- 2 Chron. 26:19; Luke 1:9.
67. Chalcedony -- Rev. 21:19.

68. Chalkstone -- Isa. 27:9.
69. Chamberlain -- Acts 12:20.

70. Chamois -- Deut. 14:5.
71. Champaign -- Deut. 11:30.

72. Chancellor -- Ezra 4:8,9,17.
73. Chapiter -- 1 Kings 7:16-18.

74. Chapmen -- 2 Chron. 9:14.
75. Chapt -- Jer. 14:4.

76. Checker Work -- 1 Kings 7:17.
77. Cheek Teeth -- Joel 1:6.

78. Chemosh -- 1 Kings 11:7; 2 Kings 3:27.
79. Cherub -- Ezek. 1:5-11; Psalm 18:10.

80. Choler -- Dan. 8:7; 11:11.
81. Churl -- Isa. 32:5,7.

82. Ciel -- Jer. 22:14.
83. Clave -- Ruth 1:14.

84. Clift -- Exo. 33:32.
85. Close Place -- 2 Sam. 22:46; Psalm 18:45.

86. Coat of Mail -- 1 Sam. 17:5.
87. Cockatrice -- Jer. 8:17.

88. Cocle -- Job 31:40.
89. College -- 2 Kings 22:14; 2 Chr. 34:22.

90. Collop -- Job 15:27.
91. Concision -- Phil. 3:2.

92. Concourse -- Acts 19:40.
93. Concupiscence -- Rom. 7:8; Col. 3:5.

94. Coney -- Lev. 11:5.
95. Confection -- Exo. 30:35.

96. Confectionary -- 1 Sam. 8:13.
97. Contemn -- Psalm 10:13.

98. Convocation -- Exo. 12:16; Lev. 23:7.
99. Coping -- 1 Kings 7:9.

100. Cor -- Ezek. 45:14.
101. Corban -- Mark 7:11.

102. Coriander -- Exo. 16:31; Num. 11:7
103. Cormorant -- Lev. 11:17; Isa. 34:11.

104. Couch -- Gen. 49:9; Deut. 33:13.
105. Coulter -- 1 Sam. 13:20,21.

106. Countervail -- Esth. 7:4.
107. Covert -- 2 Kings 16:18; Job 38:40.

108. Creeping Thing -- Gen. 1:26.
109. Crisping Pin -- Isa. 3:22.

110. Crookbackt -- Lev. 21:20.
111. Cruse -- 1 Sam. 26:11; 1 Kings 14:3.

112. Cubit -- Deut. 3:11; Matt. 6:27.
113. Cumi -- Mark 5:41.

114. Cummin -- Isa. 28:25,27.
115. Curious Arts -- Acts 19:19.

116. Cuttings -- Lev. 19:28; 21:5.
117. discomfit -- Judg. 4:15; Psalm 18:14

118. Dragon -- Psalm 74:13;; Isa. 27:1
119. Dulcimer -- Dan. 3:5, 10, 15

120. Earnest -- 2 Cor. 1:22; Eph. 1:14
121. Emerods -- Deut. 28:27.

122. Endamage -- Ezra 4:13
123. Endue -- Gen. 30:20; 2 Chron. 2:12.

124. Engine -- Ezek. 26:9; 2 Chron. 20:15.
125. Ensample -- Phil. 3:17; 2 Pet. 2:6.

126. Ensign -- Isa. 11:12; Zech. 9:16.
127. Ephah -- Lev. 5:11; Ezek. 45:11.

128. Ephphata -- Mark 7:34.
129. Ephod -- Exo. 28:6-12.

130. Espouse -- 2 Sam. 3:14; Matt. 1:18.
131. Euroclydon -- Acts 27:14.

132. Exactor -- Isa. 60:17.
133. Exorcist -- Acts 19:13.

134. Extreme Burning -- Deut. 28:22.
135. Eyeservice -- Col. 3:22; Eph. 6:6.

137. Fain -- Job 27:22; Luke 15:16.
138. Fairs -- Ezek. 27:12, 14, 16.

139. Fallow Ground -- Jer. 4:3; Hos. 10:12.
140. Familiar Friend -- Job 19:14; Psalm 41:9.

141. Familiar Spirit -- 2 Kings 23:24.
142. Farthing -- Matt. 5:26.

143. Fast -- 1 Sam. 31:13; Esth. 4:16.
144. Fat -- Joel 2:24; Lev. 3:16.

145. Fatling -- 1 Sam. 15:9; Isa. 11:6.
146. Fen -- Job 40:21.

147. Fillet -- Exo. 27:10,11.
148. Fining Pot -- Prov. 17:3; 27:21.

149. Firepan -- 2 Kings 25:15.
150. Firkin -- John 2:6.

151. Fitch -- Isa. 28:25, 27.
152. Flagon -- Isa. 22:24.

153. Fleshhook -- Exo. 27:3.
154. Fleshpot -- Exo. 16:3.

155. Flote (Floats)-- 2 Chron. 2:16.
156. Footman -- 1 Sam. 22:17; Jer. 12:5.

157. Footstool -- 2 Chron. 9:18.
158. Foreship -- Acts 27:30.

159. Foul Spirit -- Mark 9:25; Rev. 18:2.
160. Foursquare -- Exo. 27:1; Rev. 21:16.

161. Fowler -- Psalm 91:3; Hos. 9:8.
162. Fray -- Deut. 28:26; Jer. 7:33.

163. Freckled Spot -- Lev. 13:39.
164. Fretting -- Lev. 13:51,52.

165. Frontlet -- Exo. 13:16; Deut. 6:8.
166. Fuller -- 2 Kings 18:17; Mark 9:3.

167. Gabbatha -- John 19:13.
168. Galbanum -- Exo. 30:34.

169. Gall -- Job 15:13; 20:25; Matt. 27:34.
170. Gallant Ship -- Isa. 33:21.

171. Galley -- Isa. 33:21.
172. Gat -- 1 Kings 1:1; Eccl. 2:8.

173. Gerah -- Lev. 27:25.
174. Ghost -- Gen. 49:33.

175. Gin -- Amos 3:5; Psalm 141:9.
176. Girt -- 2 Kings 1:8; John 21:7.

177. Glean -- Lev. 19:10.
178. Glede -- Deut. 14:13.

179. Glister -- 1 Chron. 39:2; Luke 9:29.
180. Graff -- Rom. 11:17, 19, 23, 24.

181. Greaves -- 1 Sam. 17:6.
182. Greyhound -- Prov. 30:31.

183. Grisled -- Gen. 31:10; Zech. 6:3.
184. Habergeon -- Exo. 28:32; 2 Chron. 26:14.

185. Haft -- Judg. 3:22.
186. Hale -- Luke 12:58; Acts 8:3.

187. Halt -- Mark 9:45; Luke 14:21; John 5:3.
188. Handbreadth -- Exo. 37:12; 1 Kings 7:26.

189. Handstaves -- Ezek. 39:9.
190. Hap -- Ruth 2:3.

191. Haply -- Mark 11:13; Acts 5:39.
192. Hart -- Deut. 12:15; Isa. 35:6.

193. Hasty Fruit -- Isa. 28:4.
194. Havock -- Acts 8:3.

195. Heath -- Jer. 17:6.
196. Heave Offering-- Num. 18:8.

197. Heave Shoulder-- Lev. 10:14.
198. Helve -- Deut. 19:5.

199. Higgaion -- Psalm 9:16.
200. Hindmost -- Num. 2:31.

201. Hiss -- Jer. 19:8.
202. Hoar -- Isa. 46:4.

203. Hoar Frost -- Exo. 16:14; Psalm 147:16.
204. Hoary -- Job 41:32.

205. Hoise -- Acts 27:40.
206. Holpen -- Dan. 11:34; Luke 1:54.

207. Horseleach -- Prov. 30:15.
208. Hosen -- Dan. 3:21.

209. Hough -- Josh. 11:6, 9; 2 Sam. 8:4.
210. Hungerbitten -- Job 18:12.

211. Husbandry -- 1 Cor. 3:9.
212. Ill Savour -- Joel 2:20.

213. Implead -- Acts 19:38.
214. Inclosing -- Exo. 28:20.

215. Infolding -- Ezek. 1:4.
216. Issue -- Ezek. 47:12; Rev. 9:17.

217. Jachin and Boaz -- 1 Kings 7:15-22.
217. Jacinth -- Rev. 21:20.

218. Jah -- Psalm 68:4.
219. Jeopard -- Judg. 5:18.

220. Jod -- 1 Chron. 22:3.
221. Jot -- Matt. 5:18.

222. Jubile -- Lev. 25:8-17.
223. Kerchief -- Ezek. 13:18,21.

224. Kindred -- Gen. 24:4.
225. Kine -- 1 Sam. 6:10,12,14; Amos 4:1.

226. Kite -- Lev. 11:14; Deut. 14:13.
227. Kneadingtrough-- Exo. 8:3: 12:34.

228. Knop -- Exo. 25:31, 34, 36.; 1 Kings 6:18.
229. Lade -- Gen. 47:17; 1 Kings 12:11.

230. Lancet -- 1 Kings 18:28.
231. Lapwing -- Lev. 11:19; Deut. 14:18.

232. Latchet -- Isa. 5:278; Mark 1:7.
233. Latter Rain -- Deut. 11:14; Zech. 10:1.

234. Laver -- Exo. 31:9; 1 Kings 7:40, 43.
235. Leasing -- Psalm 4:2; 5:6.

236. Legion -- Mark 5:9, 15; Luke 8:30.
237. Leviathan -- Psalm 74:14; Isa. 27:1; Job 41:1.

238. Libertines -- Acts 6:9.
240. Lien -- Gen. 26:10; Psalm 68:13.

241. Lign Aloes -- Num. 24:6.
242. Lily Work -- 1 Kings 7:19, 22.

243. Lintel -- Exo. 12:22,23; Amos 9:1.
244. Log -- Lev. 14:10, 21.

245. Lowring -- Matt. 16:3.
246. Lucre -- 1 Sam. 8:2; 1 Tim. 3:3,8.

247. Lunatick -- Matt. 4:24; 17:15.
248. Magnifical -- 1 Chron. 22:5.

249. Mail -- 1 Sam. 17:38.
250. Malefactor -- Luke 23:32,33; John 18:30.

251. Mallow -- Job 30:4.
252. Mammon -- Matt. 6:24; Luke 16:11,13.

253. Mandrake -- Gen. 30:14-16.
254. Manch -- Ezek. 45:12.

255. Maranatha -- 1 Cor. 16:22.
256. Maschil -- Psalm 32 (Title).

257. Matrix -- Exo. 13:12,15;34:19; Num. 18:15.
258. Maul -- Prov. 25:18.

259. Maw -- Deut. 18:3.
260. Meat Offering -- 1 Chron. 21:23.

261. Mete -- Exo. 16:18; Isa. 40:12.
262. Meteyard -- Lev. 19:35.

263. Michtam -- Psalm 16,56-60 (in title).
264. Milcom -- 1 Kings 11:5, 33; 2 Kings 23:13.

265. Mincing -- Isa. 3:16.
266. Mingled People-- Jer. 25:20, 24; Ezek. 30:5.

267. Minish -- Psalm 107:39; Exo. 5:19.
268. Mite -- Mark 12:42; Luke 12:59.

269. Mitre -- Zech. 3:5.
270. Mortar -- Num. 11:8; Prov. 27:22.

271. Morter -- Exo. 1:14; Nahum 3:14;
272. Mote -- Matt. 7:4; Luke 6:41,42.

273. Moving Things -- Gen. 1:20.
274. Muffler -- Isa. 3:19.

275. Munition -- Isa. 29:7; 33:16.
276. Murrian -- Exo. 9:3.

277. Musick -- 1 Sam. 18:6; Luke 15:25.
278. Myrrh -- Gen. 37:25; Matt. 2:11.

279. Naught -- Prov. 20:14; 2 Kings 2:19.
280. Necromancer -- Deut. 18:11.

281. Neesing -- Job 41:18.
282. Nehushtan -- 2 Kings 18:4.

283. Nergal -- 2 Kings 17:30.
284. Nether -- Deut. 24:6; Job 41:24.

285. Nethermost -- 1 Kings 6:6.
286. Nethinim -- 1 Chron. 9:2; Ezra 7:7.

287. Nettle -- Isa. 34:13.
288. Nigh -- Deut. 22:2; Luke 21:28.

289. Nitre -- Prov. 25:20; Jer. 2:22.
290. Noisome -- Psalm 91:3; Ezek. 14:21.

291. Oblation -- Lev. 2:4,12; Ezek. 45:1.
292. Occurrent -- 1 Kings 5:4.

293. Offscouring -- Lamen. 3:45; I Cor. 4:13.
294. Oil Tree -- Isa. 41:19.

295. Omega -- Rev. 1:8, 11.
296. Omer -- Exo. 16:16, 18, 22.

297. Onycha -- Exo. 30:34.
298. Onyx -- Exo. 28:20; 39:13; Ezek. 28:13.

299. Oracle -- 1 Pet. 4:11.
300. Orion -- Job 9:9; 38:31; Amos 5:8.

301. Osprey -- Lev. 11:13.
302. Ossifrage -- Lev. 11:13; Deut. 14:12.

303. Outwent -- Mark 6:33.
304. Overcharge -- 2 Cor. 2:5; Luke 21:34.

305. Overlive -- Josh. 24:31.
306. Overpast -- Psalm 57:1; Isa. 26:20.

307. Overrun -- 2 Sam. 18:23; Nahum 1:8.
308. Paddle -- Deut. 23:13.

309. Palmerworm -- Joel 1:4; 2:25; Amos 4:9.
310. Pannag -- Ezek. 27:17.

311. Parbar -- 1 Chron. 26:18.
312. Pavement -- Esth. 1:6.

313. Peculiar -- Exo. 19:5; Titus 2:14.
314. Pence -- Mark 14:5; Matt. 18:28.

315. Penury -- Prov. 14:23; Luke 21:4.
316. Peradventure -- Gen. 24:39; Rom. 5:7.

317. Pestle -- Prov. 27:22.
318. Phylacteries -- Deut. 11:13-22.

319. Pill -- Gen. 30:37,38.
320. Plaister -- Dan. 5:5; Lev. 13:43,48.

321. Plaiting -- 1 Pet. 3:3.
322. Plat -- 2 Kings 9:26.

323. Pleasant Plants -- Isa. 17:10.
324. Pleiades -- Job 9:9; 38:31.

325. Plummet -- 2 Kings 21:13; Isa. 28:17.
326. Pommegranate -- Num. 20:5; Deut. 8:8.

327. Pommel -- 2 Chron. 4:12.
328. Porter -- 1 Chron. 23:5; Neh. 7:73.

329. Potsherd -- Prov. 26:23; Isa. 45:9.
330. Pottage -- Gen. 25:29,30,34; 2 Kings 4:38.

331. Pourtray -- Ezek. 4:1; 8:10.
332. Pransing -- Judg. 5:22; Nahum 3:2.

333. Pressfat -- Hag. 2:16.
334. Prick -- Num. 33:55; Acts 9:5; 26:14.

335. Privily -- 1 Sam. 24:4; Gal. 2:4.
336. Profane -- Lev. 21:7; Heb. 12:16.

337. Propitiation -- Rom. 3:25; 1 John 2:2; 4:10.
338. Proselyte -- Matt. 23:15; Acts 2:10.

339. Provender -- Gen. 42:27; Isa. 30:24.
340. Pruninghook -- Isa. 2:4; Joel 3:10; Micah 4:3

341. Psaltery -- 1 Sam. 10:5; Psalm 144;9
342. Publican -- Matt. 9:11; Luke 18:10; 19:2.

343. Pur -- Esth. 3:7; 9:24.
344. Purrim -- Esth. 9:21-32.

345. Purtenance -- Exo. 12:9
346. Purifying Sores -- Isa. 1:6.

347. Pygarg -- Deut. 14:5.
348. Quarternion -- Acts 12:4.

349. Quick -- Num. 16:30; Acts 10:42.
350. Quit -- 1 Sam. 4:9; 1 Cor. 16:13.

351. Rainment -- Gen. 45:22.
352. Rampart -- Lamen. 2:8; Nahum 3:8.

353. Ravening -- Psalm 22:13; Matt. 7:15.
354. Ravin -- Gen. 49:27; Nahum 2:12.

355. Recorder -- 2 Sam. 8:16; 2 Chron. 34:8.
356. Redound -- 2 Cor. 4:15.

357. Reins -- Psalm 16:7; Isa. 11:5.
358. Remphan -- Acts 7:43.

359. Rereward -- Num. 10:25; 1 Sam. 29:2.
360. Ribband -- Num. 15:38.

361. Rie -- Exo. 9:32; Isa. 28:25.
362. Ringstraked -- Gen. 39:35,39,40.

363. Roe -- Isa. 13:14.
364. Ruddy -- 1 Sam. 16:12.

365. Rude -- 2 Cor. 11:6.
366. Sackbut -- Dan. 3:5.

367. Sackcloth -- Gen. 37:34; 2 Kings 19:1.
368. Saffron -- Song of Sol. 4:14.

369. Satyr -- Isa. 13:21; 34:14.
379. Savour -- Lev. 26:31; Matt. 16:23.

380. Scabbard -- Jer. 47:6.
381. Scall -- Lev. 13:30-37; 14:54.

382. Scrabble -- 1 Sam. 21:13.
383. Screech Owl -- Isa. 34:14.

384. Scum -- Ezek. 24:6,11,12.
385. Seethe -- 2 Kings 4:38; Job 41:20.

386. Selvedge -- Exo. 26:4; 36:11.
387. Servitor -- 2 Kings 4:43.

388. Shambles -- 1 Cor. 10:25.
389. Sheaf -- Gen. 37:7; Deut. 24:19.

390. Sheepcote -- 2 Sam. 7:8; 1 Chron. 17:7.
391. Sheminith -- 1 Chron. 15:21; Psa 6 (title).

392. Sherd -- Isa. 30:14; Ezek. 23:34.
393. Shewbread -- 1 Sam. 21:6; 1 Chron. 9:32.

394. Shibboleth -- Judg. 12:6.
395. Shigionoth -- Habbakkuk 3:1.

396. Shiloh -- Gen. 49:10.
397. Shittah Tree -- Isa. 41:19.

398. Silverling -- Isa. 7:23.
399. Sith -- Ezek. 35:6.

400. Snuff -- Jer. 2:24; 14:6.
401. Snuffdish -- Exo. 25:38; 37:23; Num. 4:9.

402. Snuffers -- 1 Kings 7:50; 2 Chron. 4:22.
403. Sod -- 2 Chron. 35:13.

404. Sodden -- Exo. 12:9; 1 Sam. 2:15.
405. Sojourn -- Judg. 19:16; Isa. 52:4.

406. Sottish -- Jer. 4:22.
407. Spikenard -- Mark 14:3; John 12:3.

408. Spoiler -- Judg. 2:14; 1 Sam. 13:17.
409. Stacte -- Exo. 30:34.

410. Stomacher -- Isa. 3:24.
411. Strait -- Isa. 49:20; Acts 26:5.

412. Strake -- Gen. 39:37; Lev. 14:37.
413. Stripe -- Exo. 21:25.

414. Suborn -- Acts 6:11.
415. Succor -- 2 Sam. 8:5; 18:3; Heb. 2:18.

416. Sunder -- Job 41:17.
417. Superfluous -- Lev. 21:18; 22:23.

418. Supple -- Ezek. 16:4.
419. Suppliant -- Zeph. 3:10.

420. Surfeiting -- Luke 21:34.
421. Swaddling Clothes -- Luke 2:7,12; Job 38:9.

422. Sycamine -- Luke 17:6.
423. Sycomore -- Amos 7:14.

424. Taber -- Nahum 2:7.
425. Tablet -- Num. 31:50; Isa. 3:20.

426. Tache -- Exo. 26 Quit -- 1 Sam. 4:9; 1 Cor. 16:13.
351. Rainment -- Gen. 45:22.

352. Rampart -- Lamen. 2:8; Nahum 3:8.
353. Ravening -- Psalm 22:13; Matt. 7:15.

354. Ravin -- Gen. 49:27; Nahum 2:12.
355. Recorder -- 2 Sam. 8:16; 2 Chron. 34:8.

356. Redound -- 2 Cor. 4:15.
357. Reins -- Psalm 16:7; Isa. 11:5.

358. Remphan -- Acts 7:43.
359. Rereward -- Num. 10:25; 1 Sam. 29:2.

360. Ribband -- Num. 15:38.
361. Rie -- Exo. 9:32; Isa. 28:25.

362. Ringstraked -- Gen. 39:35,39,40.
363. Roe -- Isa. 13:14.

364. Ruddy -- 1 Sam. 16:12.
365. Rude -- 2 Cor. 11:6.

366. Sackbut -- Dan. 3:5.
367. Sackcloth -- Gen. 37:34; 2 Kings 19:1.

368. Saffron -- Song of Sol. 4:14.
369. Satyr -- Isa. 13:21; 34:14.

379. Savour -- Lev. 26:31; Matt. 16:23.
380. Scabbard -- Jer. 47:6.

381. Scall -- Lev. 13:30-37; 14:54.
382. Scrabble -- 1 Sam. 21:13.

383. Screech Owl -- Isa. 34:14.
384. Scum -- Ezek. 24:6,11,12.

385. Seethe -- 2 Kings 4:38; Job 41:20.
386. Selvedge -- Exo. 26:4; 36:11.

387. Servitor -- 2 Kings 4:43.
388. Shambles -- 1 Cor. 10:25.

389. Sheaf -- Gen. 37:7; Deut. 24:19.
390. Sheepcote -- 2 Sam. 7:8; 1 Chron. 17:7.

391. Sheminith -- 1 Chron. 15:21; Psa 6 (title).
392. Sherd -- Isa. 30:14; Ezek. 23:34.

393. Shewbread -- 1 Sam. 21:6; 1 Chron. 9:32.
394. Shibboleth -- Judg. 12:6.

395. Shigionoth -- Habbakkuk 3:1.
396. Shiloh -- Gen. 49:10.

397. Shittah Tree -- Isa. 41:19.
398. Silverling -- Isa. 7:23.

399. Sith -- Ezek. 35:6.
400. Snuff -- Jer. 2:24; 14:6.

401. Snuffdish -- Exo. 25:38; 37:23; Num. 4:9.
402. Snuffers -- 1 Kings 7:50; 2 Chron. 4:22.

403. Sod -- 2 Chron. 35:13.
404. Sodden -- Exo. 12:9; 1 Sam. 2:15.

405. Sojourn -- Judg. 19:16; Isa. 52:4.
406. Sottish -- Jer. 4:22.

407. Spikenard -- Mark 14:3; John 12:3.
408. Sodpdoiler -- Judg. 2:14; 1 Sam. 13:17.

409. Stacte -- Exo. 30:34.
410. Stomacher -- Isa. 3:24.

411. Strait -- Isa. 49:20; Acts 26:5.
412. Strake -- Gen. 30:37; Lev. 14:37

413. Supple -- Ezek. 16:4
414. Sycamine -- Luke 17:6

415. Sycomore -- Amos 7:14
416. Taber -- Nah. 2:7

417. Tache -- Exo. 26,11; 36:13,18
418. Target -- 1 Kings 10:16; 2 Chron 9:15; 14:8.

419. Tender eyed -- Gen. 29:17
420. Trow -- Luke 17:9

421. Unction -- 1 John 2:20
422. Unicorn -- Num. 23:22; Deut 33:17; Job 39:9

423. Victual -- Exo. 12:39
424. Visage -- Dan. 3:19

425. Void place -- 1 Kings 22:10
426. Wax -- 2 Sam. 3:1; Rev. 18:3

427. Wen -- Lev. 22:22
428. Wheaten -- Exo. 29:2

429. Whelp -- 2 Sam. 17:8; Ezek. 19:3
430. Wimple -- Isa. 3:22

431. Winefat -- Isa. 63:2; Mark 12:1
432. Wist -- Josh. 8:14; Mark 9:6

433. Wit -- Gen. 24:21; Ex. 2:4; 2 Kings 10:29
434. Wizard -- Lev. 19:31; 20:27; 1 Sam. 28:3

435. Wot -- Gen. 39:8; Rom. 11:2
436. Wreathen -- Exo. 28:14; 39:15; 2 Kings 25:27

[Commander8]

"10. Advocacy of the KJV-only doctrine is no guarantee of doctrinal truth or interpretive accuracy. A variety of Christian sects of American origin embrace the KJV in more or less exclusivistic fashion. a. Arguably the "Ruckmanites," a fundamentalist Baptistic movement that looks to Peter Ruckman as its primary spokesperson, is a distinct subgroup of American fundamentalism with almost cultish characteristics. Their basic theology seems sound enough, but it is overlaid with such extremism and legalism in its view of the Bible as to undermine its evangelical view of salvation. b. Mormonism uses the KJV as its official Bible, even though Joseph Smith produced an "inspired" revision of the Bible (which some Mormons also use). The Mormons have a strong commitment to the KJV because it was the Bible of the early LDS prophets, the Book of Mormon quotes (indeed, plagiarizes) whole chapters from the KJV, and Mormons have found it convenient to use the KJV in evangelizing especially in English-speaking countries. c. Many Oneness Pentecostals hold to a form of the KJV-only doctrine, especially on a popular level among pastors and laity. In their case they find it convenient to stick with the KJV because in certain places its wording is more compatible with the way the Oneness doctrine is articulated than modern translations (e.g., Col. 2:9; 1 Tim. 3:16). Oneness Pentecostals often object to arguments based on the Greek or Hebrew as vain attempts to improve on the Bible."

Once again, the Bible Bashers rely on character assassination whenever the facts are not in their favor.
From The Answer Book by Dr Samuel Gipp

Question #19

QUESTION: Are people who believe the King James Bible "church splitters?"

ANSWER: No. The only church that a believer in the perfect Bible could possibly split would have to be one that didn't believe that the Bible was perfect.

EXPLANATION: Sometimes false accusations are based on misunderstandings. Sometimes they are based upon utter and complete falsehood. The fallacy that people believing in the perfect Bible are church splitters is unfortunately based entirely and maliciously on falsehood.
Sadly, there are many Christians who have been through the traumatizing experience of a church split. It would be erroneous to pretend that every church split was caused by someone believing that the King James Bible was perfect.
Churches split over everything from money issues to the question of what color to paint the new auditorium. The FACT of the matter is that Christians sadly lack the grace found in Romans 14 and Luke 17:1-5. It has nothing to do with the King James Bible. To try to claim that it does is to be a great deal less than honest.
Question #20

QUESTION: Aren't all King James Bible believers "name callers?"

ANSWER: No.

EXPLANATION: In recent years, the issue of a perfect Bible has been expertly handled by Dr. Peter S. Ruckrnan. Dr. Ruckman is a highly educated teacher/preacher who accepts the Antiochian manuscript as authentic and views them with the Antiochian ideology that accepts the Bible as perfect.
Dr. Ruckman's style is forceful in regard to the authority of Scripture and his treatment of Bible critics is devastating. His approach to most Bible issues is one of grace, where many Christians lack such grace. But on the singular issue of the authority of Scripture his approach is similar to the Apostle Paul (II Corinthians 10:10) and the great English scholar, John William Burgon.
A very few advocates of the perfect Bible, lacking Dr. Ruckman's scholastic qualifications have assimilated his caustic style with tragic results.
The broad majority of King James Bible believers do not utilize this style simply because it is not their natural style.
Question #21

QUESTION: Don't King James Bible believer's "worship" the Bible? Didn't God destroy the originals because He didn't want these people to venerate them?

ANSWER: No and no.

EXPLANATION: Many critics of the perfect Bible have become very frustrated in recent years. This is due to the fact that their entire argument against the Bible has been systematically destroyed by historical fact, their own shortfall of scholastic ability and the consistent blessing of the King James Bible by the Holy Spirit.
In a desperate attempt to "sling mud" at Bible believers, they make the two statements found above.
Do King James Bible believers worship the Bible? No. They do not pray to it as they do to Jesus Christ. They do not preach that "the Bible saves" but that Jesus saves. They blissfully mark notes all over their Bibles, though none would dare to do so to Jesus Christ.
There is not even enough evidence to mistakenly believe that King James Bible believers worship the Bible. Therefore, the charge is unfortunately born of malice not sincerity.
Did God destroy the originals to keep King James Bible believers from someday worshipping them? No. Nothing could be farther from fact.
God allowed the originals to pass off the scene because their only value, was their words, which He preserved through copies. Once the originals had served their purpose and were copied, they received no loyalty from God or His people.
If the originals were somehow to "miraculously" appear today, they would be of little interest to Bible believers since they make little of them now.
If anyone would venerate them, it would probably be the crowd that makes so much of them today, the Bible critics.
Question #22

QUESTION: Aren't King James Bible believers a cult?

ANSWER: No.

EXPLANATION: The charge that King James Bible believers are a cult is similar to the charge that they worship the Bible. It is a result of the same frustration and born of the same malice. Sadly, when facts do not prove them right, character assassination is in order.
Cults are somewhat difficult to define, although there are two outstanding characteristics evident in all cults.
First, a cult has a central body that makes decisions for all of its disciples. Most King James Bible believers are fiercely independent and many times disagree about other doctrines, even with one another. Their only central authority is the Bible, not a college or university.
Secondly, most cults fear that their disciples will investigate their opposition's beliefs and then be converted by the truth. Therefore they make strict rules disallowing books and materials that disagree with their doctrine.
Again, since the facts support the Authorized Version, King James Bible believers are not afraid to study the charges of their critics. In fact, this book attempts to confront all of the Bible critic's charges with complete candor.
Now, it will be noted that, there are some Bible colleges and universities which have a policy of confiscating books which support the view of a perfect Bible. In fact, this book may be on that list someday.
It makes one wonder just who is the "cult" and who isn't.
Question #23

QUESTION: Is it "heresy" to believe, that the King James Bible is perfect?

ANSWER: No.

EXPLANATION: It is amusing yet appalling that a King James Bible believer, who BELIEVES the Bible to be inerrant, is called a "heretic" by people who claim to believe that the Bible is inerrant.
"Heresy", according to Webster, is "an opinion or doctrine contrary to the truth or to generally accepted beliefs."
It is "generally accepted" that the Bible is the perfect word of God. I have often told people, "I don't believe that the King James Bible is the inerrant word of God. I believe that the BIBLE is the inerrant word of God. But if you ask me to give you a copy of that Bible, I'll hand you a King James Bible."
Critics of the King James Bible believe that the "Bible" is the inerrant word of God. BUT, ask them to hand you a copy of that inerrant Bible that they "believe" in, and you will find that it doesn't exist anywhere on this earth!
We King James Bible believers simply believe what they CLAIM to believe. And for that we are called "heretics."
Actually the "heretic" label is designed more to scare young adherents away from the inerrant Bible, than to honestly define the name callers feelings. It is hoped by the Bible critic that the fear of being labeled a "heretic" will discourage zealous Christians from REALLY believing what Bible critics claim to believe.
In fact, if it is generally accepted by fundamentalists that "the Bible is the inerrant word of God" and the Bible critic can find a mistake in every Bible that you put in his hand, then... who really is the heretic?

[editor-surveyor]

Never saw so many strawmen in one place before.

It's amazing how conviction of sin can scare professing believers away from God's word.

[G Larry]

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