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Why anti-Catholicism remains alive and well
Our Sunday Visitor ^ | July 27, 2003 | Russell Shaw

Posted on 07/29/2003 10:56:03 AM PDT by NYer

Among the many troubling offshoots of the clergy sex abuse scandal, the erosion of confidence in the leaders of the Church is easily one of the worst.

Tell a mixed audience of Catholics that not all bishops are responsible for the mess and that anti-Catholicism had something to do with the way the scandal was presented and perceived — you’re likely to get your head handed to you for your trouble.

But, as Philip Jenkins shows in his important book "The New Anti-Catholicism" (Oxford University Press, $27), these things happen to be facts. People who think the abuse scandal was exclusively about pedophile priests and cynical bishops trying to shield them from punishment need to hear what Jenkins says.

The book is about many things besides the scandal. Taken as a whole, it is a serious look at why anti-Catholicism is the "last acceptable prejudice" in the United States — why opinion leaders of every sort casually slam the Catholic Church when they wouldn’t dream of slamming any other church or institution.

Jenkins, a professor of history and religious studies at Pennsylvania State University, is no Catholic apologist. A former Catholic who parted ways with the Church years back, he is now an Episcopalian.

He also is a prolific author whose topics range from the explosive growth of Christianity in the Southern Hemisphere ("The Next Christendom," Oxford University Press, $28) to an examination of clergy sex abuse that debunks commonly held myths ("Pedophiles and Priests," Oxford University Press, $18).

HARD JABS FROM THE LEFT
Jenkins reports that, unlike the old-style, mainly Protestant anti-Catholicism it has largely but not entirely replaced, the "new" anti-Catholicism exists mainly on "the left/liberal side of the spectrum, especially among feminists and gay activists." These people oppose the Church on touchy issues where gender and politics intersect, like abortion and same-sex marriage.

The results of this clash are visible today everywhere from movies to art exhibitions in which Catholic themes are treated with contempt.

"For many people in the United States — particularly for opinion-makers in the mass media and in the academic world — Catholicism neither needs nor deserves the kind of protections that apply to other religious traditions," Jenkins concludes.

"In this assessment, the Church is a haven of reaction, especially on matters of gender and sexuality, and it deserves little sympathy when it is attacked because, frankly, it is so dependably on the wrong side."

Enter the scandal of sex abuse by priests.

No more than any other sane person does Jenkins doubt that some priests were guilty of horrible crimes and some bishops botched the handling of the problem in mind-boggling ways. These were the central causes of this historic disaster for the Church.

But there is more than that to the story.

Even though there was no solid basis in fact to support the view, around the mid-1980s, the media concluded that sex abuse was distinctively a problem of Catholic priests. This resulted in terrible distortions in coverage:

• The number of offenders often was grossly exaggerated. In reality, Jenkins suggests, probably no more than 2 percent to 3 percent of all priests were involved with minors.

• Abusive priests routinely were described as "pedophiles" — molesters of young children — even though a careful study of priests in the Chicago archdiocese found, for example, that just one out of more than 2,200 was a pedophile.

• Sex abuse by clergy of other denominations was treated as an isolated, individual phenomenon, but in the case of Catholic priests it was presented as a product of the doctrines and structures of the Church.

• Even though policies implemented by most bishops starting in 1993 meant that "most dioceses have in recent years done a respectable job" of handling the abuse problem, this progress was largely ignored.

"In modern American history, no mainstream denomination has ever been treated so consistently, so publicly, with such venom," Jenkins says.

Catholics joined in the Catholic-bashing. Jenkins mentions columnists Maureen Dowd and Anna Quindlen, psychotherapist Richard Sipe and writers Garry Wills, James Carroll and Eugene Kennedy. The list could be extended.

But can Catholics really be anti-Catholic? Conventional wisdom treats the very idea as absurd. If a Catholic — at any rate, a prominent Catholic on the left — criticizes the Church, he or she automatically gets respect from the media.

Jenkins thinks that’s a mistake. If somebody uses "harsh, sweeping, and vindictive" rhetoric to grind axes against the Church, that is anti-Catholic by definition, he holds.

RIGHT THINKING?
Manifesting the same blind spot about conservative Catholic opinion that secular writers commonly suffer from, Jenkins seems unaware that Catholic anti-Catholicism also exists on the Catholic right.

But it does. Catholics on both ends of the spectrum now join in decrying "the bishops," with no distinctions made.

It is as if African-Americans or Jews, buying into anti-black or anti-Semitic stereotypes, had turned on the authority structures of their own communities and were bent on destroying them.

Here, perhaps, is a disturbing symptom of collective Catholic self-hatred.

Bad as it was, the anti-Catholicism of the past came from outside the Church. And being under siege may even have strengthened the Catholic community in some ways.

Today, attacks from the outside are still taking place. But the Church also finds itself under attack from within. "We have met the enemy, and he is us," the cartoon character Pogo announced. Maybe so — but this new anti-Catholicism is no laughing matter.— Shaw (rshaw@osv.com) is Our Sunday Visitor’s Washington correspondent

. . . and it’s not going away soon
Is there a solution to anti-Catholicism in the United States? In "The New Anti-Catholicism," Philip Jenkins says the problem is so deeply rooted in American culture that it may be impossible to eradicate "in a decade or a lifetime."

Still, it doesn’t follow that nothing can be done.

"The greatest single achievement might be to acknowledge its existence and to treat it as a form of prejudice quite as pernicious as any other," Jenkins says.

In the news media especially, he adds, "it would be wonderful if writers dealing with Catholic themes would examine their work just long enough to see if they were recycling ancient stereotypes, in much the same way they should if writing about Jews, blacks, or other once-despised groups."

Good idea. But how to turn that from pious hope into concrete reality is not so clear. » R.S.


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To: Titanites
Yes. Those who die in God's grace and friendship are assured of their eternal salvation.

Great...then can you tell me from the Catechism how one dies (or lives) in God's grace and friendship?

21 posted on 07/29/2003 1:58:29 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Titanites
Yes. Those who die in God's grace and friendship are assured of their eternal salvation.

And...the reference number from the Catechism where I can verify that info.

22 posted on 07/29/2003 2:07:47 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: NYer
55 % of Catholics in NJ support Gay Marriage according to this poll.

NJ Poll finds majority for gay marriage
State survey's results questioned by critics

Tuesday, July 29, 2003
BY KATHY BARRETT CARTER Star-Ledger Staff

A majority of New Jerseyans support allowing gay couples to marry, according to a Zogby International Poll commissioned by advocates for legalizing same-sex unions.

In the poll, released yesterday, nearly 55 percent of likely voters agreed that gay couples should be able to marry, while 41 percent disagreed. The poll also found that 57 percent of Catholics supported gay marriage, even as the Vatican announced it plans to issue new instructions to bishops and Catholic politicians to oppose extending marriage to gay and lesbian couples.

Gay rights advocates said the poll shows there is broad public support for same-sex marriage. But opponents of gay marriage questioned the poll's methodology, noting the results are dramatically different from national polls showing most people oppose gay marriage.

New Jersey is shaping up as a major battleground in the fight over gay marriage. Seven gay couples have filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of a state law limiting marriage to heterosexuals. In addition, a bill pending in the Legislature would give gay couples and unmarried heterosexual couples the right to register as domestic partners and receive many of the same rights and privileges enjoyed by married couples.

Two Canadian provinces have legalized homosexual marriage. Earlier this year, Germany's high court upheld a same-sex marriage law.

"Like all other parents, we want to dance at our children's weddings, including those of our lesbian and gay children," said Clarice Zieja, president of the Bergen County chapter of Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, the state group that commissioned the poll. "It's really wonderful to know that the people of New Jersey agree."

The poll results conflict with other polls, including a national poll released last week by the Pew Research Center showing 53 percent oppose gay marriage.

John Tomicki, executive director of the League of American Families, a group that opposes same-sex marriage, charged that the Zogby poll "is meant to try to stampede the public and legislators with biased questions and statistics. It directly conflicts with the Pew poll because the questions were prepared by PFLAG and those who have a gay and lesbian marriage agenda."

Steven Goldstein, who is leading the campaign for gay marriage and the domestic partner bill on behalf of Lambda, a nonprofit legal advocacy group for gays, said the questions were prepared by Zogby with help from PFLAG. John Zogby, president and CEO of Zogby International, said the poll clearly shows support for gay marriage.

"No matter how the question is worded, the answers remain the same. More than half of likely voters support allowing gay couples to marry," Zogby said. "And a majority believe it would be better if the state stopped fighting the marriage lawsuit and used the resources to focus on problems like the economy."

Patrick Murray, associate director of The Star Ledger/ Eagleton-Rutgers poll, said "The numbers aren't like anything I've seen in any other poll about this issue, but it depends on how you ask the questions and where you ask the questions."

"I would find it very interesting if New Jersey is this far ahead of the nation in terms of progressive thought," he said. "New Jersey is always a few points ahead of the nation in opposition to the death penalty or support for gay rights in general, but not 180 degrees apart from the rest of the nation."

Other numbers reflect a dramatic change from earlier polls.

When New Jerseyans were asked whether they personally know someone who is gay, lesbian or bisexual, 77 percent said yes and 23 percent said no. Four years ago, 57 percent responded yes in a similar Star-Ledger/Eagleton-Rutgers poll.

According to the Zogby poll, gay marriage has support across the state, and the most in South Jersey, where 60 percent support it and 35 percent oppose. Whites favor same-sex marriage 56 percent to 40 percent. Nearly seven out of 10 Jews and Hispanics questioned said they favor gay marriage. A majority of Republicans, Protestants, African-Americans and Asian- Americans opposed gay marriage.

Gay rights leaders said while the poll won't affect the pending lawsuit, they believe it will help convince lawmakers to pass the domestic partnership bill.

"We're delighted. The poll reflects our experience with our friends and neighbors, and we hope it improves the chances of passage of the domestic partnership bill," said Michael Blake, president of the New Jersey chapter of the Stonewall Democrats. "I think this will help reassure people that there is strong support for it."

Pollsters interviewed 803 "likely voters" by telephone from July 15-19. The poll's margin of error is plus or minus 3.6 percentage points. The margin of error is greater for subsets such as race, religion, and political party.
23 posted on 07/29/2003 2:15:51 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
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To: Onelifetogive
Those who die in God's grace and friendship are assured of their eternal salvation.
And...the reference number from the Catechism where I can verify that info.
Catechism of the Catholic Church, #1023.
24 posted on 07/29/2003 2:19:23 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Onelifetogive
And...the reference number from the Catechism where I can verify that info.

1023, 1030, 1052.

25 posted on 07/29/2003 2:24:15 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites
Yes. Those who die in God's grace and friendship are assured of their eternal salvation.

Is God only friends with Catholics? Must one do good works to be "God's friend"? Does salvation come through God or his mother?

26 posted on 07/29/2003 2:28:57 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive; eastsider
Great...then can you tell me from the Catechism how one dies (or lives) in God's grace and friendship?

You can look for this yourself by referencing the Catechism online per eastsider's post #24.

27 posted on 07/29/2003 2:31:58 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Onelifetogive
Is God only friends with Catholics? Must one do good works to be "God's friend"? Does salvation come through God or his mother?

You seem like you have a lot of interest in the teachings of the Catholic Church. Since the topic of this particular thread isn't about teaching the doctrine of the Catholic Church, I'd recommend you attend an RCIA class at a local church. If you send me a freepmail on where you are located, I can recommend a church for you to get started, with all the details you want.

28 posted on 07/29/2003 2:37:31 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites
: According to the general disposition of God, the souls of all the saints . . . and other faithful who died after receiving Christ's holy Baptism (provided they were not in need of purification when they died, . . . or, if they then did need or will need some purification, when they have been purified after death, . . .) already before they take up their bodies again and before the general judgment - and this since the Ascension of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ into heaven - have been, are and will be in heaven, in the heavenly Kingdom and celestial paradise with Christ, joined to the company of the holy angels.

According to this the only requirement is being one of the faithful (or saints) and Baptism. Correct? The remainder concerns timing and whether a stint in purgutory is required...

29 posted on 07/29/2003 2:41:09 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive; Titanites
There's also a copy of the Catechism on the Vatican website. The index has links to any section you might care to explore.
30 posted on 07/29/2003 2:42:37 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Titanites
You seem like you have a lot of interest in the teachings of the Catholic Church

I am only responding to your claim from a post above:

I'm talking about belief as taught according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

You brought up the fact that some people fail to understand Catholic beliefs even when you explain them from the Catechism. I simply asked about the most basic Christian belief. Rather that a straight forward answer, I am refered to a RCIA class.

31 posted on 07/29/2003 2:45:27 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
I simply asked about the most basic Christian belief. Rather that a straight forward answer, I am refered to a RCIA class.

I've given you straight answers about the Catholic faith, but everytime you get an answer you have more questions, which is fine. But as I stated, this thread is not about giving you a lesson in basic Catholic doctrine and I'd like to keep it on topic. I take it from your response about my offer of RCIA classes that you really aren't interested.

32 posted on 07/29/2003 2:54:45 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites
Boooooo:)

BEcky
33 posted on 07/29/2003 3:10:52 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Prov. 9:7-8)
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To: Titanites
I've given you straight answers about the Catholic faith

Telling me that to go to heaven I must be "God's friend" is hardly a straight answer. How can one hear that answer and comply with it?

34 posted on 07/29/2003 3:11:08 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: NYer; Titanites
But you know from my time spent here on FR I have seen that "anti-catholisism" ALOT of the time, not all, but alot, is no more then someone who disagrees with catholic beliefs, and IMO, that is just not right.

Becky
35 posted on 07/29/2003 3:12:38 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Prov. 9:7-8)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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36 posted on 07/29/2003 3:12:47 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Onelifetogive
How can one hear that answer and comply with it?

See my response #32.

37 posted on 07/29/2003 3:16:48 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites
I am an ex-catholic, spent 12 yrs. in catholic schools. I HAVE seen and read numerous things here that the RCC has written down in black and white to back up that the claims NC's make are wrong. The thing that catholics will not admit to is that what ex-catholics claim they were taught IS what they were taught. I know what I was taught. It does not match what I have seen here. WHY are there so many false conceptions about what catholics believe. Because what NC's think catholics believe IS what is taught in the schools, you just won't admit it. I also believe there is a reason the catholic schools teach what they do, it's not just bad teachers.

Becky
38 posted on 07/29/2003 3:19:27 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Prov. 9:7-8)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
But you know from my time spent here on FR I have seen that "anti-catholisism" ALOT of the time, not all, but alot, is no more then someone who disagrees with catholic beliefs, and IMO, that is just not right.

I believe you are correct,and I'm Catholic.We whine entirely too much.

39 posted on 07/29/2003 3:20:45 PM PDT by Codie
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I know what I was taught. It does not match what I have seen here.

That's why there is a Catechism of the Catholic Church. People teach all sorts of things claiming it to be Catholic doctrine. But if it disagrees with the Catechism, it is incorrect.

The point I was making was that there are people here who present a false view of Catholic doctrine and even after being corrected and shown our actual beliefs, per the Catechism, they are back here the next day repeating their old canards like they never saw what the Catechism actually says. What's their purpose for doing this?

40 posted on 07/29/2003 3:26:06 PM PDT by Titanites
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