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To: nobdysfool
Even Arminians agree that man is unable (total inability) to "choose"

No, that is not what is meant by 'total inability'.

What is meant, is the the unregenerate man cannot even choose if given the prevenient grace to do so.

He has to be regenerated first.

No Arminian would accept that.

95 posted on 08/03/2003 4:01:20 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration; drstevej; Dr. Eckleburg; Frumanchu; RnMomof7; Wrigley; xzins
No, that is not what is meant by 'total inability'.

Quit redefining words to avoid admitting things. You have agreed with me before that man is unable, apart from some kind of Grace or action on God's part, to "choose" or otherwise respond to God in a positive sense. You have agreed that this is so. Deal with the words themselves, Ed. not the overhead that you want to attach to them, or what you claim Calvinists mean. The words, period. What do they mean?? Those two words. TOTAL INABILITY.

That is what I am saying here. Words mean things, and you avoid clear meaning in order to keep from yielding any ground. Total intellectual dishonesty.

Sometimes you're practically break-dancing in order to avoid admitting anything. Your bobbing and weaving is pretty intense sometimes. This is one of those times.

98 posted on 08/03/2003 8:40:52 AM PDT by nobdysfool (Let God be true, and every man a liar...)
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