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To: fortheDeclaration; drstevej; Dr. Eckleburg; Frumanchu; RnMomof7; Wrigley; xzins
No, that is not what is meant by 'total inability'.

Quit redefining words to avoid admitting things. You have agreed with me before that man is unable, apart from some kind of Grace or action on God's part, to "choose" or otherwise respond to God in a positive sense. You have agreed that this is so. Deal with the words themselves, Ed. not the overhead that you want to attach to them, or what you claim Calvinists mean. The words, period. What do they mean?? Those two words. TOTAL INABILITY.

That is what I am saying here. Words mean things, and you avoid clear meaning in order to keep from yielding any ground. Total intellectual dishonesty.

Sometimes you're practically break-dancing in order to avoid admitting anything. Your bobbing and weaving is pretty intense sometimes. This is one of those times.

98 posted on 08/03/2003 8:40:52 AM PDT by nobdysfool (Let God be true, and every man a liar...)
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To: nobdysfool
No, that is not what is meant by 'total inability'. Quit redefining words to avoid admitting things. You have agreed with me before that man is unable, apart from some kind of Grace or action on God's part, to "choose" or otherwise respond to God in a positive sense. You have agreed that this is so. Deal with the words themselves, Ed. not the overhead that you want to attach to them, or what you claim Calvinists mean. The words, period. What do they mean?? Those two words. TOTAL INABILITY.

Total inability means that the person is unable to respond to any light the Holy Spirit gives until he is first regenerated.

The Arminian position is that while one is depraved, one can respond to the Gospel light before one is Regenerated.

That is the difference between the two views.

Like it or not.

That is what I am saying here. Words mean things, and you avoid clear meaning in order to keep from yielding any ground. Total intellectual dishonesty. Sometimes you're practically break-dancing in order to avoid admitting anything. Your bobbing and weaving is pretty intense sometimes. This is one of those times.

Hey, why don't you check with the Arminians on what Total Inability means (the grammarian, Corin Stormhands, Xzins, Winston Churchill) they are honest guys.

If I am wrong, they will correct me.

You on the other hand, do not know what you are talking about and are just trying to score points with the Calvinistic cabal.

Waste someone elses time.

101 posted on 08/03/2003 3:38:38 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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