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To: nobdysfool
"I challenge you to find such posts by me."

Post #64, to wit, "You need to hear the Gospel, realize you're a sinner, repent, and ask Jesus to come into your heart and make you a new creation in Him."

Which Calvinist position is it going to be? Faith before regeneration per your order or asking Christ to enter a depraved temple per your recommendation?

I've found the more appropriate solution is to communicate the Gospel per the Great Commission, leave the situation between the unregenerate person and God and let the Holy Spirit perform the ministry. If it happens, all of these things settle themselves by His work.....simple.

227 posted on 12/02/2003 10:07:19 PM PST by Cvengr (0:^))
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To: Cvengr; CCWoody; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Frumanchu; drstevej; Dr. Eckleburg; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; ...
Which Calvinist position is it going to be? Faith before regeneration per your order or asking Christ to enter a depraved temple per your recommendation?

As in any biblical discussion, when quoting a source outside yourself, context matters a great deal. You lifted one small paragraph (and not even the whole paragrpah) from a post made earlier on this thread, supposedly to detail an "inconsistency" which you intend to exploit to negate anything I say. The remark which you want to shine a spotlight on was made in the context of attempting to show an unregenerate "New Age" christian (note small 'c') that his goofy New Age ideas about the "christ within us" and that "everyone has a portion of the holy spirit within them because we are all spirit-children of God" was actually non-Christian, heretical, and that he was and is deceived by believing that, lulled into thinking he is OK while he is on his way to hell-fire.

In that light, my statement to him makes perfect sense, and is in accord with the way the Gospel was presented by Paul, Peter, John, and others. Telling him what he must do, is only detailing what God has said. I am not addressing his ability to do so or not. God is the one who will regenerate his heart so he can believe and reveive the true Gospel, if God has chosen him. That's not my call. My call is to present the Gospel.

Cvengr doesn't want the context to be known, because then he wouldn't have anything to bash me with. His whole agenda has been to marginalize me and any other Calvinist who would dare to withstand him, by subtle personal slurs and innuendo, rather than clear refutation (or the attempt at such) of what we have written. The real reason is that he can't refute it, and every time he tries, he digs himself deeper. He knows it, and we know it. Go back and read Post #64 in this thread, and read the posts leading up to it, especially those from the person I was responding to. Get the context of the discussion. I believe you will see that Cvengr has mis-represented me in this, and is actually lying about me, publicly, in an attempt to silence my refutation of his discordant posts.

229 posted on 12/03/2003 5:25:04 AM PST by nobdysfool (All True Christians will be Calvinists in Glory)
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