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Dancing Our Prayers Away?
TCR News ^ | June 2003 | Carrie Tomko

Posted on 06/12/2003 6:57:13 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Hermann the Cherusker
***Sacrificed any animals lately?***

I did close the garage door on a frog this morning.
41 posted on 06/12/2003 10:38:22 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: asformeandformyhouse
Sacrificed any animals lately?

Not this week. But then Christ presesnted himself as the final sacrifice, not the final waltz.

42 posted on 06/12/2003 10:43:12 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Corin Stormhands
But then Christ presesnted himself as the final sacrifice, not the final waltz.

All authority for christian worship comes from the the NT. The word 'dance' is found nowhere in the NT.

43 posted on 06/12/2003 11:07:35 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: drstevej
I like it! I like it!

Pithy and direct.

44 posted on 06/12/2003 11:09:27 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: asformeandformyhouse
So, what else do you ignore from the Old Testament?
45 posted on 06/12/2003 11:17:43 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: american colleen; NYer
Since Cynthia Hoven,St.Mary's University,in her paper entitled "Everything is Visible Speech.A Somatic Approach To Language" connects Rudolf Steiner to this movement we might remind the bishops of Hitler's connection to the occultic Thule Society of which Steiner was a member.

Perhaps,a little "attaboy" might do the trick. We could send a little note to the bishops saying something like "I am happy to see the big catholic tent finally opening it's arms to Naziism,for so long I have felt that the admiration and adulation of all things Marxist and Bolshevic evidenced by so many of you in the USCCB,was so terribly unfair to the Nazis."

" Now finally you are recognizing some of the underpinnings that were foundational to the National Socialist Party.Bring on the dancers and lets inextricably admix the idaologies of Marx and Hitler,however,I am a little concerned about anti-semitism. Was not that considered a natural outgrowth of Naziism?"

"On the other hand,it is a wonderful tribute to your new found enthusiasm for inclusivity,equal oppurtunity and cultural diversity. You guys are just so darn smart."

(This is a little sarcasm.)

46 posted on 06/12/2003 11:23:13 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: Corin Stormhands
So, what else do you ignore from the Old Testament?

I ignore nothing from the OT. It was written for our understanding.

Romans 15:4  For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

But I only look to the NT for authority in worship.

What other parts of the old law do you keep? Dietary restrictions? Stoning of someone who works on the sabbath? Selling your children into bondage?

47 posted on 06/12/2003 11:25:29 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: drstevej
I did close the garage door on a frog this morning.

But that was just for fun. :)

48 posted on 06/12/2003 11:26:28 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: NYer
**You know as well as I that statements of this sort are easily spun, by the moderninsts like Mahony, Clark and the bsp of Cleveland, into whatever "they" believe it to mean. That statement could easily become a ringing endorsement for liturgical dance, or other abuses.**

Spinning ad infinitum!
49 posted on 06/12/2003 11:26:40 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: drstevej
**Great idea, Pope Piel needs a wider audience... :-) **

You goof!
50 posted on 06/12/2003 11:27:37 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: asformeandformyhouse
Selling your children into bondage?

There are days I'd entertain an offer.

Look. I posted the Salvation Army timbrel as a bit of a tongue in cheek post. I don't dance in worship OR in prayer. Okay?

But you cannot provide for me a Biblical source that expressly forbids dance in worship. Can you?

51 posted on 06/12/2003 11:30:07 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Salvation
Your Goofness!

[mild admonishment for firt time offense]
52 posted on 06/12/2003 11:30:17 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
*8I did close the garage door on a frog this morning.**

I'm laughing so hard I can hardly type!
53 posted on 06/12/2003 11:30:44 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: drstevej
is that my official title, now?
54 posted on 06/12/2003 11:32:35 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Corin Stormhands
But you cannot provide for me a Biblical source that expressly forbids dance in worship. Can you?

You mistake the silence of the scriptures as authorizing. When that which is authorized is mentioned, all others do not need to be mentioned.

55 posted on 06/12/2003 11:39:57 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: asformeandformyhouse
You mistake the silence of the scriptures as authorizing.

No more than you mistake their silence as prohibiting.

Scripture is clear that Christ was the final sacrifice. Scripture is clear that all foods are clean.

56 posted on 06/12/2003 11:49:58 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Loyalist; NYer
The Catholic Bishops are expected to discuss a position paper on liturgical dance when they meet in Dallas this weekend,

Okay, what am I missing here? The GIRM specifically forbids it. What's left to discuss?

I wish I was closer to Dallas. These guys need a serious freeping, IN PERSON.

57 posted on 06/12/2003 11:58:21 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Corin Stormhands
No more than you mistake their silence as prohibiting.

To authorize is to give permission for. If it's not authorized, we don't have permission and do so without authority from God. Possibly to our eternal peril.

We understand this concept in everyday life. When the President gave the order to start the attack on Iraq, would the Generals have been authorized to attack Canada (not that it might not be a good idea, mind you)? Would they have been justified by saying to the President "You didn't say not to"?

58 posted on 06/12/2003 11:59:24 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: asformeandformyhouse; drstevej
If it's not authorized, we don't have permission and do so without authority from God.

Please site chapter and verse for your permission to post on FreeRepublic.

Can't do it? May God have mercy on your immortal soul.

59 posted on 06/12/2003 12:03:17 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: american colleen; saradippity; sandyeggo; Salvation
Hows about you compose a loose idea for a letter and I'll (and anyone else interested) can use that?

Thank you, Colleen for your support. I have emailed Mark Shea and asked him to address this topic on his blog. In my email, I have given him liks to the TCR news story, the Notitiae issued by the USCCB, a copy of my letter to the diocese demonstrating that liturgical dance rendered the mass illicit, after which they conceded, and an invitation to lurk in this forum to meet the next pope.

I am more than happy to share my 2nd letter to the diocese with anyone who wishes to use it as a basis for addressing their bishop. Just let me know.

60 posted on 06/12/2003 12:03:49 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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