The Fourth Cup: The Sacrament of the Eucharist [Holy Thursday] [Passover]

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[Salvation]

Wonderful article!

[jobim]

How inspiring that you posted this extraordinary talk by Mr. Hahn. It's so rich, like the Holy Thursday liturgy tonight - my favorite liturgy of the liturgical year.

And a blessed Easter to you, Salvation!

[NYer]

Absolutely fabulous post! Scott Hahn demonstrates, once again, the depth of gift that he brings to the catholic church.

[Ciexyz]

Most inspiring teaching. I see you've been posting these threads a long time, Salvation!

[Salvation]

**I see you've been posting these threads a long time,**

LOL! You have FReepmail.

[Ciexyz]

Pass this teaching along.

[Salvation]

**Pass this teaching along**

Please do.

[Maeve]

Holy Week A.D. 2006 BUMP!

[Salvation]

Good to see you, Maeve. Hope all is well with your family and especially with your mom, Siobhan. We miss her active participation on FR.

[Salvation]

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[Jaded]

I have the tape. It's awesome everytime you listen.

[SuziQ]

What a good article. I attended a Passover Seder for the first time when I was in college. The Pastor of the Parish had the local rabbi come in and do it for those in the Parish who were intersted. We had a large group for that small college Parish. The Rabbi led the prayers and told a few anecdotes about Passover Seders in his family, then asked if anyone had questions. One elderly woman looked kind of scandalized and asked if Passover wasn't supposed to be more solemn. He laughed and said "Never!". It was a feast celebrating the liberation of the Chosen People by their God, and it was supposed to be a joyous occasion. It is tinged with sorrow because you remember loved ones who are no longer there to share Passover with you, but you are hopeful that next year your Passover will be celebrated in Jerusalem.

I could immediately see the parallels to the Mass. First, the prayers of the blessing of the wine and unleavened bread at the Passover are almost word for word what is used at Mass. At Mass, during the Eucharistic Prayer, we remember those who are no longer with us, and we pray that when we die, we'll see God in Heaven; the New Jerusalem.

The Jews used the blood of the Lamb, and it's flesh to protect their families from the Angel of Death. We are washed clean of our sins and protected by the Blood of the Lamb, Jesus's sacrifice on the Cross, and by eating his flesh, as He commanded, we too are strengthened in our journey to that New Jerusalem.

[SuziQ]

Scott Hahn demonstrates, once again, the depth of gift that he brings to the catholic church.

How true! We 'cradle Catholics' tend to take the Eucharist for granted sometimes. It's good to be reminded just how important it is for our Faith.

[Salvation]

Bumping this wonderful talk by Scott Hahn. One that all Catholics need to read!

Especially the part about Adoration!

[Flavius Josephus]

Thank you. This was the piece I needed to read to help me celebrate the Passover of the Paschal Lamb tonight, and through the Triduum.

[Salvation]

Glad to help. May you have a blessed Passover tonight and a blessed Easter seasosn.

[Uri’el-2012]

The first cup is the blessing of the festival day, it's the kiddush cup. The second cup of wine occurs really at the beginning of the Passover liturgy itself, and that involves the singing of psalm 113. And then there's the third cup, the cup of blessing which involves the actual meal, the unleavened bread and so on. And then, before the fourth cup, you sing the great hil-el psalms: 114, 115, 116, 117 and 118. And having sung those psalms you proceed to the fourth cup which for all practical purposes is the climax of the Passover.

Scott seems confused :

The Haggadah that was current during Y'shua's time
was begun by Rav Hill-el I at 100 BCE

The Haggadah for the Pesach Seder was written down
by Rav Judah ha-Nassi in 200 CE

A careful review of the haggadah for Pesach reveals:

The first cup is the cup of Freedom
"I will take you out"

The second cup is the cup of Deliverance
"I will Deliver you"

In modern Messianic Pesachs the breaking of the Matzos
into the afikomen,
( Its Greek meaning can be understood as "that which is coming" )
is followed by the eating of the Lamb dinner

Which is followed by The third cup which is the cup of Redemption
"I will redeem you"

followed by the singing of the Hill-el Psalms

The fourth cup is the cup of Blessing or Thanksgiving which
"I will take you as my people" (Deut 6:6-7)
I expect to share as the Bride with the BrideGroom
at the wedding feast of the Lamb
as outlined in Matthew 26:29

Thank you for allowing me share this with you.

b'shem Y'shua

[Salvation]

There is speculation about it. The Gospel of John stipulates the Cup of Blessing as you said.

However, the other Gospels do not specify which cup it was that Christ blessed, gave to his diciples and said, "Take this and drink. This my blood."

[Straight Vermonter]

Thanks for this wonderful post.

I hate getting teary eyed at work.

[MILESJESU]

Dear Freepers in Christ,

Although, Today is Good Friday. The Day of Our Lord's Passion, Crucifixion, and Death.

I have to say what an awesome article on the Holy Eucharist and on Eucharistic Adoration posted by Freeper Salvation.

Thank You. I was not planning on popping in today on FR, but then I realized that I had to Link the only Homily preached by Father Altier on Good Friday 2002 to Salvation's Catholic Caucus Readings for Good Friday.

Besides, that I have to post Threads for Easter Sunday with Homilies preached by Father Altier from 2001-2005.

Blessings to all of you for a Solemn Good Friday as well as for a Holy and Blessed Easter.

In Christ The Crucified One who went to the Cross today for our sins,