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Where Have All the FR Protestants Gone?
drstevej

Posted on 04/08/2003 10:29:25 AM PDT by drstevej

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To: Gophack
Congrats on the baby! You need not worry about anything getting stale, because by the time you are able to get back to serious posting (s)he will be in Kindergarten!
381 posted on 04/09/2003 9:31:17 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (Ya don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.)
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To: Gophack
Congratulations on your new baby:) LOL...I thought from your name you were male.

Becky
382 posted on 04/09/2003 9:31:24 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Gophack; TotusTuus
***Maybe they all converted to Catholicism ;-) ***

Totus tuus suggested that I become the next Pope. I will, if elected, take the name Pope Piel, the Pocket Fisher of Men.

I am already assembling my team. Care to be a Cardinalette? Several FR Catholics and FR Protestants have accepted positions of responsibility. Who says FR doesn't foster an ecumenical spirit?
383 posted on 04/09/2003 9:35:53 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: Conservative til I die; Revelation 911
You should have posted this while hanging from a cross.

What a despicable thing to say.

384 posted on 04/09/2003 9:36:49 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: RnMomof7
All God asks is repent and believe

... and to take up our cross and follow him, to obey the commandments, to love our neighbor and our enemies ...

Jesus said following Him wouldn't be easy.

God bless!

Oh, and I'm catching up with you ... I don't have 7 yet, but baby #4 was born on 3/25 ... the feast of the Annunciation! She was 3 weeks early and small (compared to my others), but she's making up for it now!

Children are TRULY God's greatest gift to us on earth. And when I think of God giving up his only begotten Son FOR US, and Jesus' sacrifice FOR US, I am truly humbled. I love my children so much, and with each addition to the family my love grows, I don't have to divide it. God's love is abundant for ALL of us, because we are all His children. To think God loves us more than we love our children is truly mind-blowing.

Sorry, just mushy post-partum hormones. :-)

385 posted on 04/09/2003 9:40:13 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Yep, everyone thought I was a man ... but my husband is ElkGroveDan (he doesn't usually come to the religious forum, he's a news junkie).

thanks.

386 posted on 04/09/2003 9:42:13 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: SoothingDave
I believe that part of living a Christ-like life is finding the Christ inside of everyone you meet.

Well said.

We all love Jesus Christ, and we all need to strive to love each other, through charity and good-will. There is no need to personally attack Protestants OR Catholics. When we want to challenge a difference, we should -- with love and charity. It is also our obligation to nurture the Truths in each religion and pray to the Holy Spirit that He will guide believers into the fullness of Truth.

387 posted on 04/09/2003 9:46:42 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: drstevej
You probably also promote the NIV! I will inform Jack Chick. Expect a tract unmasking your New Age agenda!

I would have made it if it werent for those meddling kids !

388 posted on 04/09/2003 9:50:12 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (Silencing of the Lambs (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
Look, I know you're just trying to provoke an all-out flamewar here. Par for the course. But calling someone a bigot as an observation is not "smearing" and "bashing." I'm not misrepresenting anyone's beliefs; I'm making an observation on people's actions. The owner of the site seems to be in agreement.

Can I get your take on this, Jim? Under what circumstances is it okay for someone to post offensive tripe such as this? If you say this isn't bashing, I'll consider it your personal authorization that I can take my own gloves off.

389 posted on 04/09/2003 9:51:57 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
What a despicable thing to say.

It was just an "observation" mind you. Not an attack or a bash or anything. We have no reason to be offended, or so I'm told.

390 posted on 04/09/2003 9:55:55 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: Revelation 911
Pshaw ! - they let disgusting stuff like this stand LOL

So you are saying that Jews DO believe in Jesus Christ as Messiah?

And you are saying that Jews by the millions DIDN'T docilely walk onto the trains to take them to the death-camps?

If you are so muddled on REAL history and religion, then how are we supposed to take you seriously?

391 posted on 04/09/2003 9:57:44 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Conservative til I die; Corin Stormhands
You should have posted this while hanging from a cross.

thats was really over the top -

...and you have this perception people are ganging up on you?

just might be due to your inability to post anything resembling a cogent thought without an insult.

Charming brand of Christianity you have there - belittling Christs sacrifice

sick

392 posted on 04/09/2003 9:57:49 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (Silencing of the Lambs (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: RnMomof7
"Serious apologists" bore me. I would rather read posts by apologists with a sense of humor.:') Look, I know I'm not going to change your mind and I understand that just knowing the thread is there irritates you. That's something you are going to have to deal with. When I see these kind of posts though it concerns me. Posters here should be presented with "fair and balanced" information, don't you think?
393 posted on 04/09/2003 9:58:11 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: fishtank
Oh, of course. And if the victims of crime wouldn't whine all the time, the prisons wouldn't be overcrowded, either.
394 posted on 04/09/2003 9:58:43 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Gophack
I don't have 7 yet, but baby #4 was born on 3/25 ... the feast of the Annunciation! She was 3 weeks early and small (compared to my others), but she's making up for it now!

Congratulations! Mine was 9 weeks early and now (at 22 months) she's off the scale in her size and development.

God's love is abundant for ALL of us, because we are all His children. To think God loves us more than we love our children is truly mind-blowing.

Amen.

SD

395 posted on 04/09/2003 9:59:31 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Notwithstanding
Believe me, I sympathize.

We "Mormons" are constantly being told what our founders did and believed, and what our leaders do and believe.

Facts don't seem to get in the way of a good "bashing."
396 posted on 04/09/2003 9:59:51 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Corin Stormhands; Conservative til I die
You should have posted this while hanging from a cross.

What a despicable thing to say.

I agree. That was tasteless.

SD

397 posted on 04/09/2003 10:01:11 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: snerkel
1. It is not incumbent on me to "refute" anything, simply because you say that it is.

2. On those occasions when the lies that you and others constantly post ARE refuted, you simply abandon that thread and go to another. The article posted the refuted the odious crock of **** put out by the "Kingdom of the Cults" hack a couple months back is a case in point. Many were invited there to read a good refutation. One person actually posted cogent comments; the rest just made more disparaging "weather" remarks.

3. Since you're really not about "debate" as in an exchange of conflicting ideas, and only want to argue so that you yourself can "win" (at least in your own mind), what is the point? Not everyone shares your hobby.
398 posted on 04/09/2003 10:03:30 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
I have just read the whole thread, from where I left off.
I have come to the conclusion that you might be the big problem. You do seem to have a serious problem on many threads,different issues.

You people consistently begin your "rebuttal" of "Mormonism" by stating that we "don't worship the 'real' Christ."Illbay

What do you mean by "You people" I have never once started a rebuttal in this way. I really think many of "You people " are confused about who you really serve.I know many Mormons who I believe love the same God that I do.

My God looks at the heart. He is a merciful, and just God.There is no searching His understanding.
I believe that God knows we are just men, and we all have been taught differently, He can save people who have never had access to the Bible. People must be born again to be saved, and only God can judge that.

It’s your doctrine that I believe is false. I posted this article that I believe is relevant. It is about doctrines that are creeping into protestant churches today as I believe happened in the 1830’s to the Mormon founders.

Luciferian Doctrine #1, Christians are Equal with God

Luciferian Doctrine #2, Christians Have Revelation Beyond the Scriptures

Luciferian Doctrine #3 Lucifer is not Satan

Luciferian Doctrine #4 The Church has Replaced Israel,

from

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/851843/posts

Your doctrine says Jesus, and Lucifer were brothers, and that God the father was Adam, a man. We Christians believe that Jesus was God come in the flesh.

your doctrine is ever changing depending on the prophet at the time.
Our doctrine says “Jesus is the same , yesterday today, and forever.

Your doctrine says Lucifer, and Jesus, (Michael the Ark Angel ) were brothers, and that Lucifer was not Satan. Atleast that’s what Joseph Smith, and Brigham Young taught.

Your doctrine believes Mormons are the true Jews that have replaced Israel.

The only time people like you are "attacked" is when you instigate it Illbay

Illbay you must have a personal problem. You spend alot of time attacking on many threads, and issues. I have tried to be your friend. I am a friend to many Mormons, and agree on most issues. You don’t want to believe it because you want to fight.

using wads of anti-whatever garbage based on lies and deceit. Illbay

Sermons, word for word) preached by the Joseph Smith, and Brigham Young founders of your own church are lies, and anti-whatever garbage?

Because the forum was never intended to be a religious debate. Illbay

Than why do you proselytize, and let your religious beliefs come through when you use them to bash the Jews.

I have a hard time leaving you alone as you try to win converts to your religion, especially sense you are hiding many of the things that the founders of your religion taught.

and you are drawn to those threads why ? - largely because you feel a sick need to shout anyone down that disagrees with you - all your posts regardless of the subject show the same contentiousnessREv 911

I agree.

"religion bashing" of all kinds, and have shown up on the anti-Catholic AND anti-Muslim threads to say the same thing. Illbay.

I have seen you standing up for Islam, but bashing Jews the same day. You must like religions that are oppressive ?

I challenge you post where I have attacked anyone on these forums.snerkle

I challege you to find a personal attack I have made to anyone?

I would harp on the fact that Jim Bakker was Assembly of God, and "prove" that AoG must be a "false cult.Illbay

Go ahead, we agree with you that he was in a cult. He was into the same doctrines listed above. I don’t claim Jim Bakker, but you still consider Jo Smith, and Brigham Young to be your prophets.

I have NEVER bashed Judaism, ever. Illbay

Wow! Are you related to Bagdad Bob?
399 posted on 04/09/2003 10:05:37 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: fishtank
I think I recognize the "harsh reality." But what I also see are people who just want to be left alone, to live where they and their forebears have lived for many generations.

I have a good friend from the Golan Heights--a "Mormon" convert from Islam--who can tell you stories of innocents whose lives were literally wrecked by the Israelis, with no compensation, so that Israeli settlers could move in and take over the land.

If this happened out in Arizona or Montana, we would be livid. But hey, they're only "Arabs," and inferior to the Israelis whom we love SO MUCH that nothing they do can possibly be wrong, and besides, some other Arab somewhere else did something wrong so it's okay.

The hypocrisy is stunning.
400 posted on 04/09/2003 10:06:29 AM PDT by Illbay
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