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To: Illbay
I have just read the whole thread, from where I left off.
I have come to the conclusion that you might be the big problem. You do seem to have a serious problem on many threads,different issues.

You people consistently begin your "rebuttal" of "Mormonism" by stating that we "don't worship the 'real' Christ."Illbay

What do you mean by "You people" I have never once started a rebuttal in this way. I really think many of "You people " are confused about who you really serve.I know many Mormons who I believe love the same God that I do.

My God looks at the heart. He is a merciful, and just God.There is no searching His understanding.
I believe that God knows we are just men, and we all have been taught differently, He can save people who have never had access to the Bible. People must be born again to be saved, and only God can judge that.

It’s your doctrine that I believe is false. I posted this article that I believe is relevant. It is about doctrines that are creeping into protestant churches today as I believe happened in the 1830’s to the Mormon founders.

Luciferian Doctrine #1, Christians are Equal with God

Luciferian Doctrine #2, Christians Have Revelation Beyond the Scriptures

Luciferian Doctrine #3 Lucifer is not Satan

Luciferian Doctrine #4 The Church has Replaced Israel,

from

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/851843/posts

Your doctrine says Jesus, and Lucifer were brothers, and that God the father was Adam, a man. We Christians believe that Jesus was God come in the flesh.

your doctrine is ever changing depending on the prophet at the time.
Our doctrine says “Jesus is the same , yesterday today, and forever.

Your doctrine says Lucifer, and Jesus, (Michael the Ark Angel ) were brothers, and that Lucifer was not Satan. Atleast that’s what Joseph Smith, and Brigham Young taught.

Your doctrine believes Mormons are the true Jews that have replaced Israel.

The only time people like you are "attacked" is when you instigate it Illbay

Illbay you must have a personal problem. You spend alot of time attacking on many threads, and issues. I have tried to be your friend. I am a friend to many Mormons, and agree on most issues. You don’t want to believe it because you want to fight.

using wads of anti-whatever garbage based on lies and deceit. Illbay

Sermons, word for word) preached by the Joseph Smith, and Brigham Young founders of your own church are lies, and anti-whatever garbage?

Because the forum was never intended to be a religious debate. Illbay

Than why do you proselytize, and let your religious beliefs come through when you use them to bash the Jews.

I have a hard time leaving you alone as you try to win converts to your religion, especially sense you are hiding many of the things that the founders of your religion taught.

and you are drawn to those threads why ? - largely because you feel a sick need to shout anyone down that disagrees with you - all your posts regardless of the subject show the same contentiousnessREv 911

I agree.

"religion bashing" of all kinds, and have shown up on the anti-Catholic AND anti-Muslim threads to say the same thing. Illbay.

I have seen you standing up for Islam, but bashing Jews the same day. You must like religions that are oppressive ?

I challenge you post where I have attacked anyone on these forums.snerkle

I challege you to find a personal attack I have made to anyone?

I would harp on the fact that Jim Bakker was Assembly of God, and "prove" that AoG must be a "false cult.Illbay

Go ahead, we agree with you that he was in a cult. He was into the same doctrines listed above. I don’t claim Jim Bakker, but you still consider Jo Smith, and Brigham Young to be your prophets.

I have NEVER bashed Judaism, ever. Illbay

Wow! Are you related to Bagdad Bob?
399 posted on 04/09/2003 10:05:37 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium; Illbay; Revelation 911; RnMomof7; drstevej
Go ahead, we agree with you that he was in a cult.

Point of order, your honor.

"WE" do not agree that the Assemblies of God are a "cult."

For the record, most AOGs have problems with Bakker and Swaggart as well.

405 posted on 04/09/2003 10:10:46 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Delphinium
Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were prophets of God, in every sense that Moses, Elijah, Ezekiel, Malachi or a host of others were.

I believe this with every fiber of my being.

If you find much wrong with that, well, I can do the same thing with your beliefs, I'm sure--though I won't, because that isn't my "thing."

I know these men were called of God. I know that Gordon B. Hinckley, the President of our Church today, is called of God, and is a Prophet of God. When he speaks, I listen, and I know that it is as if God Himself were speaking, for that is how He speaks to His Church: Through the prophets He has called.

You are welcome to believe that, or not.

One of our sacred Articles of Faith is "We claim the privilege of worshipping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege: Let them worship how, where or what they may."

I defend your right to worship as you see fit, without rude and pointless hectoring by me or anyone else.

I claim the same privilege.
409 posted on 04/09/2003 10:18:23 AM PDT by Illbay
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