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To: sandyeggo
Am I understanding what you are saying correctly here? When I go to Mass on Sunday, I am not going to Mass, but to a "religious service of a type?"

The point is that it is not the same Mass that has been said since at least the time of St. Gregory the Great. It is a different Mass. Every single prayer is different; either it was changed entirely, dropped outright, or mangled in the ICEL translation. BTW, the translations in other European languages are just as bad. It's not a problem specific to the ICEL.

So there has been one Roman Catholic Mass for almost 2,000 years. Now we have a so-called New Mass. They are not the same Mass. And the words that were changed include the words of consecration.

46 posted on 04/07/2003 2:21:23 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
And the words that were changed include the words of consecration.

Last time I checked "pro multis" still meant "pro multis."

SD

50 posted on 04/07/2003 2:29:59 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Maximilian
Every single prayer is different; either it was changed entirely, dropped outright, or mangled in the ICEL translation.

You forgot the free-wheeling priests who sort of make it up as they go along, improvising no doubt for the sake of "spontaneity."

103 posted on 04/08/2003 2:07:44 AM PDT by maryz
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