Miracle Cure Brings Sainthood to Polish Nun (Divine Mercy)

Detroit News via the Washington Post ^ | April 26, 2000 | Carlyle Murphy

[CCWoody]

You've murder another thread.

You must be right. After all, I'm the one who has told the Catholics to remove the beam from their arse and I'm the one who has made the "bull-latin" bullus shitus pronouncements. Wait! It is you Romanists who are doing that, trying to impress us with your Romanese vernacular I suppose.

Nevertheless, please explain how this post of mine (quoted for you below) "murdered another thread."

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• Acts 1:3 He presented Himself alive after His suffering by many infallible proofs, being seen by them during forty days and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God.

Yes, CC. What were those things Christ spoke of and where are they discussed in the Bible? What if Christ and/or the Apostles chose/were told to hand down those things by word instead and not by writing them down?

Notice this passage in the Bible: "And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself." (Luke 24:27) Those things are all the things which were already in the Bible at that time (The Law, the Prophets, the Psalms) which Jesus explained about Himself. These are the same things which the Apostles used in the Apostolic preaching of the kingdom of God.

• Acts 28:23 He [paul] explained and solemnly testified of the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus from both the Law and the Prophets,....

It does seem entirely to be expected that if Jesus explained of Himself and the kingdom of God from the Law and the Prophets and Paul is able to preach the kingdom of God from the Law and the Prophets that I should be able to as well. Plus, as the kingdom of God is the gospel...

• Mark 1:14-15 Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, "The time is fulfilled and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent and believe in the gospel."

And as I have in my Bible the Law and the Prophets plus the gospel accounts, where is this "extra" stuff about the kingdom of God that is not in my Bible? And how come my Bible does say that the kingdom of God is preached from the Law and the Prophets and the Psalms (Acts 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, etc.) and never from this mysterious gospel?

And what are the features of this other gospel, which is evidently another gospel that these Apostles are suppose to have preached? Gosh, they themselves even declare: "if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.

• Acts 28:23 He [paul] explained and solemnly testified of the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus from both the Law and the Prophets,....

[Codie]

Let me get this straight; you think it is a positive thing when people idolize other people?!!?

You had an attitude right from the start,and that set the tone for the rest of the thread.

[Aliska]

Maybe they can't spell. Catholics worship the Son.

[MarMema]

I guess we might as well prepare our necks now. :-)

[Matchett-PI]

"I was referring to hatemongering anti-catholics."

All regenerate Christians are saints and as such are members of the catholic (universal) church. Do you realize you are calling yourself a hatemongering anti-catholic when you bash us?

[Aliska]

Nah. Be of good cheer. Sts. Cyril and Methodius will intercede for us. We shall yet praise the Lord in the land of the living.

[MarMema]

God desires from us, more than anything else, a humble and meek heart.

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

so???

So, you were wrong.

[MarMema]

You know, this is a sad thing to admit that you have to be permitted to have private communion with the Lord

I must apologize to the Catholics on this thread. What I meanr when I wrote that was allowed by the critics of the RC church, which includes myself in many previous threads.

[MarMema]

Btw, has anyone ever told you that you are very concrete or literal? I am not trying to be mean, I just wondered.

[RnMomof7]

May I ask what version you are using?As I, who am sent by the living Father, myself draw life from the Father, so whoever eats me will draw life from me.

29Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
30So they asked him, "What miraculous sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do?
31Our forefathers ate the manna in the desert; as it is written: 'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'[3] "
32Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven.
33For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."
34"Sir," they said, "from now on give us this bread."
35Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty.
36But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe.
37All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away.
38For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40
<For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."
41At this the Jews began to grumble about him because he said, "I am the bread that came down from heaven."
42They said, "Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, 'I came down from heaven'?"
43"Stop grumbling among yourselves," Jesus answered.
44"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.

What do you think the Jewish people understood when Jesus said this?

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

Irrevelant

The things God does are irrelevant?

You can not answer the question huh? What do you see the saints doing all day? Are they omnipresent?

Sure I can answer the question. You can dish it out but can't take it. I see neither God nor the Saints manifested in a visible manner. The Saints are alive in heaven with God just as Scripture tells us they are. They are not omnipresent.

Now you answer the question I have repeatedly asked you and that you continue to dodge: Where does Scripture tell us that the Saints in heaven are dead?

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

So you claim to have been present during Christ's discourse to His disciples following the last supper? Who's really the liar.

I know you don't have the bible so here is what it says:

We have the original unabridged edition, unlike you and your comrades.

You'd be well served to heed the words of St. Peter: 2 Peter 3:16 "As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction."

[RnMomof7]

The things God does are irrelevant?

Yep God will do as God will do...He does not need to punch my time clock:>)

God is the God of creation not a man ...He the God of this world and is omnipresent to ALL situations and places

Sure I can answer the question. You can dish it out but can't take it. I see neither God nor the Saints manifested in a visible manner. The Saints are alive in heaven with God just as Scripture tells us they are. They are not omnipresent.

If the Saints are not omnipresent How can they be worshiping God (as scripture tells us )AND hear the prayers of men all over the world?

The church has made mini gods of them ...messengers and servers of man not those worshiping God

They are not God..they are not omnipresent ...they are not hearing your prayers

Your prayers to them are an abomination to God! You steal the Glory of God ...and deny Jesius His role as mediator

[Codie]

Where does Scripture tell us that the Saints in heaven are dead?

Please answer his question.

[MarMema]

You know, CC, I am trying to reply to the questions in your post to me, but it is very difficult. You appear to be deeply invested in competitiveness and sarcasm, and you take a simple question and stretch it out into a very long accusation, belaboring the point over and over again.

I cannot understand your ideas about Scripture and Christ, nor can I learn anything from you, when you are so contentious in your presentation and responses.

Can you try just replying and letting me know what the errors are in my post, without all the hyper-text and boldfacing, and just trust that I really might be interested in what you have to say, in plain old type?

[RnMomof7]

I gave you the answer you just do not like it

[MarMema]

"It is good to speak for God, but it is better to purify oneself for God."

I can't recall who said this....