As I said in #5: God has no beginning and no end.
In your mind, birth equals creation out of nothing. It wasn't that way with Jesus. It wasn't that way with us, either our physical birth here or our spirit birth before this world was.
Since you keep bringing it up, though, I will quote a few more verses:
Deuteronomy 33:27
27 The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: ...
Psalms 90:2
2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
Romans 8:29
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 4:35
35 Yea, I know that God will give liberally to him that asketh. Yea, my God will give me, if I ask not amiss; therefore I will lift up my voice unto thee; yea, I will cry unto thee, my God, the rock of my righteousness. Behold, my voice shall forever ascend up unto thee, my rock and mine everlasting God. Amen.
Book of Mormon, Moroni 7:22
22 For behold, God knowing all things, being from everlasting to everlasting, behold, he sent angels to minister unto the children of men, to make manifest concerning the coming of Christ; and in Christ there should come every good thing.
D&C 20:17
17 By these things we know that there is a God in heaven, who is infinite and eternal, from everlasting to everlasting the same unchangeable God, the framer of heaven and earth, and all things which are in them;
>> What is it in the spirit nature that is lacking (I am not sure if that is clear) ..Why is not spirit existance sufficent? Are there any that would choose to remain spirits? Does an intelligence desire to become a spirit
Very good questions. We used to know all about it, but forgot those things when we were born here. When we come to understand them again, it will be like remembering. It won't be like learning them for the first time.
D&C 45:17
17 For as ye have looked upon the long absence of your spirits from your bodies to be a bondage, I will show unto you how the day of redemption shall come, and also the restoration of the scattered Israel.
D&C 138:50
50 For the dead had looked upon the long absence of their spirits from their bodies as a bondage.
WM .. How can matter be uncreated?
If one believes in evolution one has assumptions that there was some matter that pre existed the life form we now know
Is there any biblical passages that indicate a pre existant form for men? What is the original source for the LDS belief in that ?
Could there have been a "super God" (only words I can think of) that prexisted God and that created the intelligences..He could be the Father God of the Father???
I also have an interest in the LDS defination of "angels" one time I think Sharon and I started to talk about it and I got side tracked..Is that related in your mind to the intelligences?
Thanks for a good "off the path "discussion
Did you catch that? See, in LDS theology, God has a body of flesh and bones (Doctrine & Covenants 130:22) as does his wife and together they produce spirit offspring in heaven who inhabit human bodies on earth. God and his wife actually were people who lived on another world (Kolob, I think) and attained godhood and were allowed to be gods over our world in their afterlife. Jesus, while being a spirit baby in heaven like you or I, was created on earth through sexual intercourse between God and Mary (yet she maintained her virginity supposedly because it was intercourse with an immortal man).
It's funny, I grew up with a lot of LDS friends and neighbors and they never told me any of this stuff. Wonder why......