Catholics say refusing to go to mass in one diocese due to apostate priests is a "mortal sin"

Boston Globe ^ | August 10, 2002 | Michael Rezendes

[rwfromkansas]

Mike Brake, a spokesman for Keating, dismissed the editorial in the Pilot, saying Cardinal Bernard F. Law should pay more attention to protecting children and implementing the Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People approved by Catholic bishops in June, and less attention to criticizing the governor.

[rwfromkansas]

I guess the Catholics believe if you skip mass one week or go to mass in a different diocese because your priest is apostate that you are going to hell. How nice.

[Salvation]

This is not true at all.

We are only asked to attend a service wherever we are, whether traveling, sight-seeing or visiting friends.

Same old hate-mongering of Catholics from the Boston Globe.

[Salvation]

Some references from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

2177 The Sunday celebration of the Lord's Day and his Eucharist is at the heart of the Church's life. "Sunday is the day on which the paschal mystery is celebrated in light of the apostolic tradition and is to be observed as the foremost holy day of obligation in the universal Church."[110]

2180 The precept of the Church specifies the law of the Lord more precisely: "On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound to participate in the Mass."[117] "The precept of participating in the Mass is satisfied by assistance at a Mass which is celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the holy day or on the evening of the preceding day."[118]

2182 Participation in the communal celebration of the Sunday Eucharist is a testimony of belonging and of being faithful to Christ and to his Church. The faithful give witness by this to their communion in faith and charity. Together they testify to God's holiness and their hope of salvation. They strengthen one another under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

2193 "On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound . . . to abstain from those labors and business concerns which impede the worship to be rendered to God, the joy which is proper to the Lord's Day, or the proper relaxation of mind and body" (CIC, can. 1247).

[Salvation]

Guess the BG needs to read this:

"The precept of participating in the Mass is satisfied by assistance at a Mass which is celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the holy day or on the evening of the preceding day."

[Desdemona]

This is all getting really stupid. There isn't a diocese not effected.

[xzins]

So, who has a bigger stick: the bishop of the Nat'l Conf of Bishops who appointed Keating, or the bishop of Boston who is also a cardinal?

[Captain Shady]

Gov. Keating is only acknowledging what we know we already know . If you can't get satisfaction out of your church any other way, then use your feet. Even in denominations which aren't run by a show of hands,there is still the option of voting by foot.

[sinkspur]

The Pilot accused Keating of a ''lack of prudence,'' adding, ''We hope that [his comments] will not pass unnoticed by those who appointed him to his current position.''

Well, shazzamm!

Little did I know that one of these perfumed princes had ALREADY started attacking Keating! And, Law's newspaper wants to run him off or chastised for daring to suggest that the people of Boston could go to Mass in another diocese or use their money as leverage against a recalcitrant prelate.

Did the Pilot ever refer to priestly pederasty as a "mortal sin," or is the threat of eternal punishment something the Pilot reserves for someone who stands up to the boss?

[sinkspur]

Pope also noted that Keating has not called on Catholics to skip Mass but to attend Mass in a different diocese if they are dissatisfied with the way their bishop has responded to clergy sexual abuse.

Exactly. Empty churches and empty collection plates will get Law removed the day after it happens.

[Domestic Church]

Thanks for posting the quotes from the CCC. My jaw hit the floor when I read the theologians words:

"Stephen J. Pope, chairman of the theology department at Boston College, said the editorial used ''crummy theology'' that was in vogue decades ago when church leaders used the threat of permanent confinement to hell to scare the faithful into attending Mass. ''Attending Mass is a serious obligation, but we don't say that if you skip Mass on Sunday for whatever reason, your soul is in peril of eternal damnation. What we do say is, you've missed an important opportunity to develop a relationship with fellow parishioners and develop your own spiritual integrity.''

Is this really being taught?! (Think I just got 10 more grey hairs reading this.)

[narses]

See http://www.veil-of-innocence.org/directory.htm for other issues facing Boston's Catholics.

[ninenot]

For one brief shining moment (not too long ago,) the Boston Pilot was edited by Phil Lawler. I think he 'resigned' after Law showed up in town, but I won't swear to the timing.

Obviously, the current editorialist is a bedwetting suckup who doesn't even understand Keating's ironic use of the term 'mortal sin.'

The Boston Globe just sort of moves the stupidity of the Pilot into surrealism.

All that said, please consider the (fading) possibility that Law is being maliciously mis-served by his staff underlings (and this began the very day he arrived on the scene.)

The serpents at the Chancery are part of 'the group,' and have no intention of giving an inch--or sacrificing any of their own--partly due to "friendship" and partly due to the stark fear of a massive outing-fest.

WIth that scenario, Law is now merely taking all the hits for the staff. He ought to, as it IS his responsibility. On the other hand, I suspect there are many, many bad guys still remaining in the bureaucracy who are un-named by Law and the prosecutors. Law facilitates it, and the prosecutors are pursuing the path of least resistance.

The Pilot editorial certainly displays that there is something wrong with the logic circuits at that newspaper.

[ninenot]

Is this really being taught?!

Boston College is a Jesuit school which also harbored a notorious feminazi professor for years.

Draw your own conclusions.

[ninenot]

Problem is that too many traditionalist Catholics are so in love with bowing and kissing rings, and these guys think they can get away with it.

HEY!! Watch who you splatter with your remarks!!

SOME 'traditionalists' also happen to believe in the moral order which PRECEDES such foppery as 'kissing rings.'

You would wish, at least rhetorically, to equate kissing rings with kissing butt.

Ain't so. Ask Rembert Weakland if I EVER kissed up to him (after it became perfectly clear that he was a snake--about 1 year after he got here...)

[CCWoody]

''For a Church-appointed official to publicly orchestrate a kind of protest that would call for the faithful to stop contributions or, worse, to boycott Sunday Mass - in effect, calling all Catholics in a diocese to commit a mortal sin - is just surreal.''

For the Church to declare that an individual Catholic merely protecting their children from predators in the Church is committing a mortal sin - "is just surreal." It becomes more and more obvious that the RCC does not care about the children, but only about maintaining its power.

How dare the church to threaten a mortal sin to any Catholic who wishes to protect their children from the Monsters in the RCC. And how dare the church criticize the Governor for suggesting that Catholics should protect their children.

Perhaps they are merely misinformed about the meaning of this verse:

• Matthew 10:37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.

[The_Reader_David]

Interesting. In the Christian East, we have a long tradition of dealing with heresy and apostacy in the clergy and hierarchy precisely by the laity refusing to receive the Mysteries at the hands of heretics or apostates. The resistance to the iconoclasts and the False Union councils was carried out mostly by that means.

My own bishop has told us that if he ever teaches heresy, we are to show him out of the church, and not listen to him (it's part of our obedience to him).

[ninenot]

You are correct about my minority status. I do NOT think that the Chair of Peter is vacant; I am as comfy with Latin as with English. Outright stupidity by anyone bothers me a great deal. So: there are enemies to the right and to the left.

As to JPII: after what he's been through, Lagos would be just another place to live, as were the various basements and 1-room walkup/cold running water spots he inhabited in Warsaw. More mosquitos, less bricks in the exterior walls.

Humility is a good thing; should be practiced by all. I am not alone in suspecting that a few Vatican-types have 'history' and are not interested in a massive 'outing' party.

At the same time, collegiality carries both rights and responsibilities. Our USBishops screeched until they got all sorts of rights. Most of them are now evading the attached responsibilities.

Clinton-emulation, Chapter One.