Posted on 06/27/2002 9:54:14 PM PDT by Festa
Atheism is stupid---and has no foundation in science
"The only atheism is the denial of truth." Arthur Lynch
If one were to listen to the media, science and religion cannot go hand in hand. Science inevitably proves God cannot exist. Darwin and his crowd showed how life evolved from a simple organism into a complex series of rational animals which were able to organize themselves and think beyond anything else in the universe. But atheists and their elite allies have it all backwards: Science does not refute God, it proves God. Atheism is the stupid, unthinking and illogical way. God is logical, thinking, and makes sense. Lets prove it.
The foundation of all life is contained in microscopic detailed instructions that thinking individuals can act on logically. DNA and/or RNA are these specific instructions upon which all information for a life form is based upon. In order to think logically a problem must first be presented:
I give you a one celled organism. First, I want you to assemble the ribosomes so that they can properly interpret the DNA. Now make the amino acids (CH2 for the laymen which is a part of the carboxyl group COOH). Seriously, go get the material. Devise a means by which these ribosomes and amino acids only act at a specified time without error to create an organism. (No not a human, just a simple organism). Now make sure that the cells can properly replicate themselves without fail and sustain themselves. Then watch it develop into a human.
Ok so where is the dilemma you ask. Here. I want you to do this, without intelligent thought at any point. You see something go wrong, you cant interfere. Whether that means hiring a monkey to randomly type at the keyboard for billions of years. Do not enter a goal for the computer. Phrases like create life or make a living organism are forbidden. Simply set it up, press start and watch.
Wait! But this experiment will not work. There is no way that these organisms randomly developed on accident. I know. Sorry, find a way around it. Have you solved the problem that has taken mankind centuries to even touch upon? Ok, now subject your experiment to climate and other x factors and see what happens then.
Didnt work? Thanks for helping to prove the existence of god. Oh, it did work? Thanks for helping prove the existence of God. You did help to change the code into a readable form. That required intelligent thought.
You see, atheism is actually stupid when it is thought out logically. The foundational problems inherit in creating any simple organism that it is simply impossible that a random accident caused it. Atheism is an untenable and stupid position because it says precisely that: it was all just a random accident.
Genius scientists such as Albert Einstein and Sir Isaac Newton all believed in the existence of God. (For the laymen out their, Einstein invented the theory of relativity and Sir Isaac Newton invented physics and Calculus (Yes an entire complex form of mathematics barely even touched upon until college: and even then only pathetically.) Atheists like to gloss over this fact. They also like to claim that religions are fanatical because they refuse to accept evolution into their teaching. This is a complete lie. The Catholic Church (along with many others) say that evolution is completely kosher with its teachings. No, atheism is fanatical because it simply refuses to recognize an inherit problem in science and since it cannot prove it, it refuses to use logic to explain it. They have not a single shred of evidence to prove their case.
The idea that scientists in general reject God because they are smart is the most absurd and indefensible argument ever heard. Sure there were some. But they didnt think hard enough. For all the great things Darwin did, he was never a philosopher. He asked the question once (paraphrased) that some people are so dull as to think that everything was not created by a random accident, because to think such a thing is illogical. EXACTLY. Sir. Thomas Aquinas noted this almost centuries before Darwin, and said precisely, it is illogical to think such a thing.
It is.
If the earth was one degree more off its axis, we would have no seasons. If there were no Himalayan mountains, there could be no agriculture. If we were just a bit more close to the sun, life would be untenable. If there was a bit more nitrogen in the air, say bye bye. To believe that all of this was a random accident is an absurd blind leap of faith because it has no basis in fact, thought, or reasoning. It is more than fanatical belief.
What is even scarier is that these are the smart atheists. God help the dumb ones. Atheists try and claim the high ground when they have no basis to do such a thing. They rant about how they are being mistreated when they have to listen to under god during prayer when they havent even begun to think about whether or not He exists.
What are we hear for if not a purpose? Is everything simply a random accident? Fine, then I am stealing your 100 dollars. Why? Because I can and if I am smart enough, I can get away without any punishment. Hitler sure got away with a lot. How fair is it that in the end we both end up in the same way: as dust. Scary isnt it. But this is the belief system of the atheists.
Atheism is an untenable and fanatical position. Many atheists are so blind they are blinded as to what they are blinded about. The next time you come across an atheist do two things, one ask him to use his brain a little more. Two, pray for him. Pray not because he doesnt have a religion, but pray because his has one.
That's really what I meant by "orthogonal": they're different dimensions, and travel along one is irrelevant to the other.
If you do happen to find them, keep looking.
Rest assured, I will. There is a word for ceasing to look: "faith".
Hmmmmmmm. Are you saying that it would be better to believe in something about which a person has never even heard?
I'm saying that those are the only things worth believing in. Occasionally you'll catch an echo of things unheard.
How would someone even go about believing in something without being informed of the concept?
I don't know, but there is no time to waste and you should get started on it quickly.
Why? What is wrong with being rational?
It leaves one seeing only what they can see and not seeing things as they are unobserved.
What is wrong with accepting unsupported assertions and believing things of which you've never even heard at all?
I put it this way. The theist has thought through the facts and come up with the only logical conclusion. THere must be a God because the other way does not make any sense. The Agnostic says, yeah the evidence leans towards that way, but I am still not sure. I do not want to take a position because it is not 100% proven. The atheist is an idiot because he has no support for any of this beliefs.
Sure...do a search for Janos Bolyai or Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky for some examples. (In the latter case, you might want to filter out all references that also mention Tom Lehrer :))
At least in the realm of mathematics, it's not a question of whether postulates are true, rather that you start with some and see where they lead and what application they might have. Some of them have proven applicable in a LOT of situations in the real world, and sure enough, it is hard to run across people who don't accept things like the "Law of the Excluded Middle" (though not impossible; do another search, this time for "intuitionism", for examples). Other things, like the Axiom of Choice, you can either go along with or not--it's been shown that either choice gives results with no more or less inconsistency than the other.
That we were placed here as toys for the aliens from other universes.
No, faith is reaching your hand in your pocket and finding out to your immense relief that you never lost your keys because you never had any keys to lose. Then you can go look for an ice cream shop, or maybe a nice fishing hole, or a movie.
as a reader said above, it is the equivalent of a lighting bolt striking an airplane parts factory and having a fully fuctional plane prop up out of nowhere.
Just because God is mysterious does not mean he does not exist. Think through it logically.
But you do stop looking, right?
Exactly so. That's why scientists think it evolved, which is an entirely different thing.
Theoretically, it's possible that there's a god; but after millenia of people trying unsuccessfully to prove it, I don't have the time to waste. Call me an "operational atheist" if you will; I respectfully submit that I'm not an idiot (save perhaps for getting into these discussions of apologetics :)).
Because that's the essence of being a Democrat.
Really? Every aspect?
Can you logically talk yourself out of having to go to the bathroom? Can you explain how much logic and thought it takes to keep your heart beating steady and your food digesting?
I can't even logically tell you how I make a simple motion. It's some kind of cascade of chemicals and neurons I'm told, but dang... I just think: "Move arm" and it does. I don't even have to think about beating my heart.
In fact, without a working definition of "God" I really can't come to that conclusion. Perhaps if you could offer some properties of this "God" I might better recognize its existence.
One of it's biggest properties is that it all lies where human reason and logic fail. It is the thing that is unsullied by that.
Does foolishness not lie in that same realm? ;^)
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