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Diocese Supports Paid Pro-Homosexual Psychologist

Dr Brown: “They are the local Catholic Taliban..."





Diocese Spokesman Supports Dr. Brown

Diocese spokeswoman Sister Mary Parks defends Brown. “When he asks candidates questions, he’s trying to see where they’re coming from. He may ask them from any ideological standpoint, to see what their reaction would be. A pastor must be flexible and open to all people who come to him,” she said.

    --Tribune Democrat, Johnstown, PA - 05/05/02



Dr. David Brown In His Own Words

Would you want your son or grandson screened for the priesthood by this man?



"In a telephone interview form his State College office, Brown said he did testify in favor of non-discrimination and non-harassment of homosexuals. “I drew from the Bishop’s Pastoral Letter on the topic, and I expressed the opinion that Jesus would be appalled at such bigotry.”"

    --Tribune Democrat, Johnstown, PA - 05/05/02

Rose is “trying to reconfigure the current sex scandal into an anti-homosexual crusade. It’s like anti-Semitism,” he said. “Part of Rose’s central thesis is that ultra-liberals and gays have taken over the process of becoming a priest, and that I only give liberals or gays a recommendation. That’s false and paranoid,” Brown said. “These people are pathologically homophobic, and the goal of local conservative Catholics is to have the bishop terminate my work. “They are the local Catholic Taliban. They insist on their point of view. They are relentless, mean-spirited and punitive,” he said.

    --Tribune Democrat, Johnstown, PA - 05/05/02

"I am a Roman Catholic Christian, a psychologist, and so forth..."

    --State College School Board Meeting, State College, PA - 03/23/98

"I know some people genuinely and honestly believe that the Bible and Christianity says that homosexuality is a sin, but I think that there are also many, many responsible Christian scholars and theologians, good Bible scholars, from all dimensions of Christianity who don't agree with that position, and, I think, would be appalled that this sort of justification is being offered in the name of Christianity.

    --State College School Board Meeting, State College, PA - 03/23/98

It's not even, if you ever read St. Thomas Aquinas, and you read book two of the Summa Theologica, it's not even going to be surprising to say that the so-called natural law argument is more and more, I think, being challenged.St. Thomas himself, in the second book of the Summa Theologica, says that homosexuality is natural, not unnatural. And he also says homosexuality among animals is natural, not unnatural. So I think we need to be careful when we invoke such things, especially where we don't understand the original meaning in Greek, in Aramaic, in Hebrew, or Latin or whatever you want to call it, of what some of these people, the fathers of the church, or authors of the Bible said. I think we're on very dangerous ground."

    --State College School Board Meeting, State College, PA - 03/23/98

Dr. David J. Brown, a psychologist in State College, cites several problems with the ex-gay movement. Brown says proponents of "conversion" therapy do not produce any scientific evidence to support their claims. In fact, there is a wealth of research that shows it does NOT work. Another problem is that conversion therapists are misleading in their use of the word "change." At best, "change" means abstinence, not true re-orientation. Even if it were possible to change one's sexual identity, Brown explains, there is no reason to do it. Often the desire to change stems from someone or something other than the patient, thereby making the therapy unethical. In these cases, the therapy is not in the best interests of the patient.

    --Magazine VOICES, State College, PA - Tuesday, February 22, 2000

Both Brown and McClanahan agree that such people see the world in only black and white. They typically have no tolerance for diversity, because diversity introduces unfamiliarity into their lives. Through unfamiliarity, they experience uncertainty and discomfort. "There will always be a group of people who seek to soothe their own anxiety with dogma and certitude," Brown explains.

    --Magazine VOICES, State College, PA - Tuesday, February 22, 2000

The paid advertisement in a recent CDT, "The Catholic Response," is disturbing. It is pretentious to call itself the Catholic response. Most of the statements in the ad are actually those of Joseph Ratzinger -- albeit a prominent administrator of a Vatican bureaucracy (the same that once condemned Galileo), but hardly the univocal articulator of Catholi-cism. The Catholic Church is more comprehensive than Ratzinger (and his local devotees). In its theology, Catholi-cism embraces diversity and is better defined in the majestic language of the Vatican II Council: "The Church is the People of God," not just the so-called magisterium that too often is identified with an individual like Cardinal Ratzinger, as if they are the same.

    --CDT Online, Letters to the Editor, State College, PA - Tuesday, February 22, 2000

But most disturbing is the ad's insidious implication that it is good moral theology to justly discriminate against homosexuals -- "Their rights can be legitimately limited ... and if they assert their homosexuality .... neither the Church nor society at large should be surprised when ... irrational and violent acts increase." This "theology" of homophobic negativity evokes a frightening reminiscence of another era in this century when it became legitimate to marginalize and sub-human another group of people as a threat to "normal" values.

    --CDT Online, Letters to the Editor, State College, PA - Tuesday, February 22, 2000


1 posted on 05/05/2002 2:44:57 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: patent; Notwithstanding; JMJ333; Aunt Polgara; AgThorn; IM2Phat4U; toenail; MHGinTN...
This IS the age of the laity. This article only came about because laity here in central PA made the contacts with the media and shared what they knew, and obtained the pledge that any seminarians and priests could speak on condition of anonymity. Be not afraid. Lets Roll!
2 posted on 05/05/2002 2:47:44 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
The psychologist says the characterization is false, the author is a hate-monger

Love sinner--hate the sin, why do the pro-perversion supporters get this part wrong?

Jesus would be appalled at such bigotry.

Bigotry can’t be against behavior, why don’t they get this one right either?

tradition has always declared that ‘homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered

The practice of perversion is a disordered practice, David Brown and the self-serving perversionists at the APA know it should still be a pathology registered in the DSM.

7 posted on 05/05/2002 3:25:47 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I watched one guy get another guy drunk and take him back to his room

Why are they treating seminary like a frat party?

9 posted on 05/05/2002 3:32:01 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
She said, “The American Psychiatric Association has recognized for more than a quarter of a century that being lesbian, gay or bisexual indicates no disorder.”

A whole 25 years, eh?

I'll defer to the democracy of the dead and the teaching of the Oldest Institution on the planet, I guess, on this one.

10 posted on 05/05/2002 3:39:39 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I think we need a kind of elite squad of assistant inquisitors, under the authority of Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, who go from parish to parish and watch for violations of Church doctrine and canon law.
22 posted on 05/05/2002 5:13:17 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I notice the writer didn't acknowledge the fact that the conservatives are following actual Church doctrine until several paragraphs deep into the piece...
39 posted on 05/05/2002 6:38:48 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: patent; notwithstanding; JMJ333; Aunt Polgara; AgThorn; IM2Phat4U; toenail; MHGinTN...
Hi Folks,

This is going to be my final post to FRee Republic.

I've finally decided to call it quits, and devote more time to my family.

I've already had my Dr. Brian Kopp screen name account deleted. This is an account I set up as a joke several months ago for a fellow FReeper, which I never intended using further (no, I don't have any other screen names).

However, I just wanted to say so long, and let you all know how much I've enjoyed the friendship and fellowship of many fine people here.

May God Bless you all abundantly and have Mercy on us all.

Sincerely,

Dr. Brian Kopp

(I'll be having this account deleted too. Hold the Fort, Folks!)

63 posted on 05/05/2002 9:54:23 PM PDT by Doc Anonymous
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Foster is conservative in the sense that he believes the Church must adhere literally to Vatican teachings.

Duh?

75 posted on 05/06/2002 6:05:38 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Brown said he did testify in favor of non-discrimination and non-harassment of homosexuals.

There will be no discrimination and no harassment. Throw them ALL out and there won't be any problem.

76 posted on 05/06/2002 6:13:13 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Homosexual Priests: A Time for Truth
85 posted on 05/06/2002 7:47:40 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
"pathologically homophobic"

I love this. Our 'scientific elites' think sodomy is normal and if you dare disagree with them, YOU have a mental problem. I think if I were in this guy's diocese, I'd be out protesting in front of his office at State College. He's a charlatan and an infiltrator and needs to have the heat cranked up on him until he runs away from the Church screaming like the evil spirits that Christ sent into a herd of swine.
94 posted on 05/06/2002 8:52:00 PM PDT by Antoninus
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