[Brian Kopp DPM]

This IS the age of the laity. This article only came about because laity here in central PA made the contacts with the media and shared what they knew, and obtained the pledge that any seminarians and priests could speak on condition of anonymity. Be not afraid. Lets Roll!

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Brian, the gatekeepers are nuts. Their liberal ideologies have corrupted their spirituality and their psychology. These things have now become nothing more than tools for their agenda.

BTW, in regard to women priestesses, I've noticed a preponderence of lesbian advocates and gay male advocates for this. Makes me wonder.

[Romulus]

thanks; bttt

[maryz]

St. Thomas himself, in the second book of the Summa Theologica, says that homosexuality is natural, not unnatural. And he also says homosexuality among animals is natural, not unnatural.

I have the Summa, but it would take me forever to find the passage referred to. I did specialize in medieval English in graduate school, however, and I know that the medieval view of "natural" was not the modern "natural = good."

I do remember one graduate seminar in which we explored the various meanings of "natural" by answering the question "What is the opposite of 'natural'?" Many of you may be able to suggest more, but those I recall are "unnatural," "artificial" and "supernatural."

[Clint N. Suhks]

Bump

[4TheFlag]

I'm originally from Tyrone, about 12 miles north of Altoona, live in South Dakota now, thank God I was Episcopalian.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

"...State College psychologist."

Hmmmmmm. You know, quite aside from seminary screening, there are valid uses of psychological and psychiatric categories. HOWEVER, these are very hypothetical and contested disciplines with a great deal of quackery and psychobabble. To get some idea of the changes of paradigm and controversies, just check out Out of Its Mind: Psychiatry in Crisis, A Call for Reform by Harvard's J. Allan Hobson and Jonathan A. Leonard. The degree of subjective distortion and imprecision are recognized at the professional level. You could have ten of these guys and each one would come up with a different diagnosis or personality profile. The notion that a psychological test or interview would be sufficient for approving a vocation is a little ridiculous. Where are the checks and balances in DIOCESAN PSYCHOLOGY??? Who guards the guardians? (to quote the old adage).

[NYer]

The Catechism refers to homosexuality as an “inclination which is objectively disordered.
Doesn't the bible refer to this as SODOMY?

If there are still any lingering doubts as to just how extensive this problem is in the (American) church, you may want to turn your browser here. The www.rcf.org (Roman Catholic Faithful) have been monitoring chat rooms where gay priests meet. The following is from their web site:

"In light of recent ongoing scandals being brought to light, many visitors to our site have asked that we make this information about an internet-based homosexual priest ring available once again. It is graphic and offensive. Prayerful discretion is advised."

SHOULD HOMOSEXUALS BE ORDAINED TO THE CATHOLIC PRIESTHOOD

[St.Chuck]

Catholic Taliban, homophobe, anti-semetic; Dr. Brown sure knows all the right phrases to delegitimize his critics. "Rigid" is the word that stood out for me. I was described just that way by a priest/socio/psychologist. Rigid must mean that you believe in the teaching of the church, and that you would apply your understanding of those teachings to your life. Dr. Brown is obviously opposed to those values and has absolutely no business screening prospective seminarians.

This is the age of the laity.

Scary thought.

[ThomasMore]

A controversial new book names the Altoona-Johnstown Roman Catholic Diocese as one of many dioceses that turns away qualified candidates for the priesthood in favor of a “gay subculture” and threatens the Church with dangerous reforms.

Get rid of the bishop for starters. Clean up the seminaries of homosexuals AND START TEACHING THE REAL CATHOLIC FAITH. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S FOUND IN THE CATECHISM.

[ThomasMore]

the book contends “liberals are bringing corruption into the Catholic Church.”

Uh, Yeah, I would say that's about right?!?! They'd make GOOD epicopalians.