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[Orual]

On the subject of "jurisdiction": Matthew 16:

15 Jesus saith to them: But whom do you say that I am?
16 Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answering said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven.
18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

Let's see, Heaven, Earth, Hell - that seems to be a pretty broad jurisdiction.

[Mike Fieschko]

[Pius XII] did indicate a willingness to consider the use of the vernacular, though he also clearly expressed a preference for Latin

During his pontificate, vernacular or mixed Latin-vernacular Masses, as well as other sacraments, were approved for Bavaria and France.

During the 1950s, the American bishops sought and received permission for the sacraments to be administered largely (though not entirely) in English.

[Aquinasfan]

I bought my 8 year old the "New St. Joseph's Children's Missal" - he loves it, he can follow along during the entire Mass, it has pictures and all the prayers that we say, all in order.

Excellent. There's a Catholic bookstore nearby. I'll pick one up next week. Thanks!

[patent]

I've read the argument that that promise includes some 'infallibility' in the sacraments.

I suspect you mean indefectibility. Yes, there are requirements for the Sacraments to be valid, they have to have the proper form and matter. The entire Rite of the Mass, however, is not required. The form and matter are the (very brief) words of Consecration and the wheat host/wine. Were the Church to promulgate Sacraments without the form and matter they would not be valid, but of course the promise of indefectibility indicates that cannot happen.

Let's see, Heaven, Earth, Hell - that seems to be a pretty broad jurisdiction.

Yes, the Pope has universal Jurisdiction over every parish, every priest, every Bishop, every class, every Mass. That is why the excommunication he issued by his own authority against your SSPX Bishops is valid. He has the authority. Again, however, you are confusing jurisdiction with authority. Read the Vatican I definition of the his jurisdiction, and then compare it with the definition on infallibility. You can’t help but notice the difference. The jurisdiction is universal, and clearly covers the Mass. Infallibility, on the other hand, is not universal. It does not apply to every thing the Pope does, and every exercise of his jurisdiction, such as choosing a Bishop or priest.

Dominus Vobiscum

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[BlessedBeGod]

We own the copyright to the greatest art in the history of mankind and this is the crap that we put on our missalettes?

I absolutely love the covers on the Magnificat monthly missal/divine office. Always a great work of art.

[BlessedBeGod]

Would it make sense to get it for my family's use?

There is also a organ version, which would be nice if your family has an organ or piano.

Adoremus Hymnal - Organist Edition

[Aquinasfan]

I absolutely love the covers on the Magnificat monthly missal/divine office. Always a great work of art.

I've seen them and that's exactly what I want. I'm not opposed to using the work of contemporary artists, as long as their work is up to the same standard of quality.

Imagine the different feeling that the typical churchgoer would have in picking up a missalette with cover artwork like Magnificat's.

[Dajjal]

A Feast of Saint Athanasius "Bumpus ad summum."

[ventana]

Then your problem is solved! 1-800-317-6689 or via email at Their Website 39.95/yr. You have to pay extra for the fancy 4 color process covers and features, and more again for the 2 color interiors. That is why the standard missalette is 2 color of course.

Another added bonus is all the readings for the daily masses. But wait there's more! Every month (that I've seen) A religious painting is analyzed in the back of the mag. You can also pick them up at the Catholic bookstore

[ventana]

Sorry try this link Their Website

[Aquinasfan]

Then your problem is solved!

Thanks!

[Catholicguy]

On the subject of "jurisdiction": Matthew 16: 15 Jesus saith to them: But whom do you say that I am? 16 Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answering said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven. Let's see, Heaven, Earth, Hell - that seems to be a pretty broad jurisdiction.

If I remember correctly, you are a defender of the SSPX. That being so,I find it strikingly odd you advance this "arguement"as Abp Lefebvre himself argued that one must have Jurisdiction to have ministry. The old axiom - No Jurisdiction no Ministry - was one Lefebvre adhered to; prior to the schism. He thought that one had no ministry absent jurisdiction.

That is one reason he was forced into so many anfractuous rationalisations in defense of the indefensible - trying to have ministry absent jurisdiction. It was CRYSTAL CLEAR that where the SSPX went there was JURISDICTION ALREADY ESTABLISHED FOR A BISHOP IN UNION WITH THE POPE.

By the way, as a consequence of having no jurisdiction, the Confessions heard by SSPX priests are invalid

[Orual]

Much of the information below has been copied, some has been paraphrased.

As to the question of jurisdiction:

Consecrating a bishop without pontifical mandate would be a schismatic act if one pretended to confer not just the fullness of the priesthood but also jurisdiction, a governing power over a particular flock. Only the Pope, who has universal jurisdiction over the whole Church, can appoint a pastor to a flock and empower him to govern it. But Archbishop Lefebvre never presumed to confer anything but the full priestly powers of Orders, and in no way did he grant any jurisdiction (which he himself did not have personally to give).

In Ecclesia Dei Afflicta, the Pope repeated Cardinal Gantin's accusation of schism and threatened generalized excommunications. What, moreover, constitutes a schismatic act? Not the mere deed of consecrating bishops without pontifical mandate. The 1983 Code of Canon Law itself lists this offense under Title 3 (abuse of ecclesiastical powers) and not under Title 1 (offenses against religion and the unity of the Church) of its penal section (Book 6).

Nor would it be a "schismatic act" to consecrate against the express wish of the Holy Father. That could amount to disobedience at most. But disobedience does not amount to schism; Schism requires that one not recognize the authority of the pope to command; disobedience consists in not obeying a command, whilst still acknowledging the authority of the one commanding. Archbishop Lefebvre always recognized the authority of the pope, as does the SSPX. Be sure to click the link to see the proof.

The excommunication warned of on June 17, for abuse of episcopal powers (canon 1382), was not incurred because:

1. A person who violates a law out of necessity* is not subject to a penalty (1983 Code of Canon Law, canon 1323, §4), even if there is no state of necessity. "The state of necessity, as it is explained by jurists, is a state in which the necessary goods for natural or supernatural life are so threatened that one is morally compelled to break the law in order to save them."
2. If one inculpably thought there was, he would not incur the penalty (canon 1323, 70), and if one culpably thought there was, he would still incur no automatic penalties2 (canon 1324, §3; §1, 80).

All Sacraments conferred by SSPX priests are valid.

[Orual]

The Declaration of Archbishop Lefebvre, November 21, 1974.

We hold fast, with all our heart and with all our soul, to Catholic Rome, Guardian of the Catholic faith and of the traditions necessary to preserve this faith, to Eternal Rome, Mistress of wisdom and truth.

We refuse, on the other hand, and have always refused to follow the Rome of neo-Modernist and neo-Protestant tendencies which were clearly evident in the Second Vatican Council and, after the Council, in all the reforms which issued from it.

All these reforms, indeed, have contributed and are still contributing to the destruction of the Church, to the ruin of the priesthood, to the abolition of the Sacrifice of the Mass and of the sacraments, to the disappearance of religious life, to a naturalist and Teilhardian teaching in universities, seminaries and catechectics; a teaching derived from Liberalism and Protestantism, many times condemned by the solemn Magisterium of the Church.

No authority, not even the highest in the hierarchy, can force us to abandon or diminish our Catholic faith, so clearly expressed and professed by the Church's Magisterium for nineteen centuries.

"But though we," says Saint Paul, "or an angel from heaven preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema" (Gal. 1:8).

Is it not this that the Holy Father is repeating to us today? And if we can discern a certain contradiction in his words and deeds, as well as in those of the dicasteries, well we choose what was always taught and we turn a deaf ear to the novelties destroying the Church.

It is impossible to modify profoundly the lex orandi without modifying the lex credendi. To the Novus Ordo Missae correspond a new catechism, a new priesthood, new seminaries, a charismatic Pentecostal Church —all things opposed to orthodoxy and the perennial teaching of the Church.

This Reformation, born of Liberalism and Modernism, is poisoned through and through; it derives from heresy and ends in heresy, even if all its acts are not formally heretical. It is therefore impossible for any conscientious and faithful Catholic to espouse this Reformation or to submit to it in any way whatsoever.

The only attitude of faithfulness to the Church and Catholic doctrine, in view of our salvation, is a categorical refusal to accept this Reformation.

That is why, without any spirit of rebellion, bitterness or resentment, we pursue our work of forming priests, with the timeless Magisterium as our guide. We are persuaded that we can render no greater service to the Holy Catholic Church, to the Sovereign Pontiff and to posterity. That is why we hold fast to all that has been believed and practiced in the faith, morals, liturgy, teaching of the catechism, formation of the priest and institution of the Church, by the Church of all time; to all these things as codified in those books which saw day before the Modernist influence of the Council. This we shall do until such time that the true light of Tradition dissipates the darkness obscuring the sky of Eternal Rome.

By doing this, with the grace of God and the help of the Blessed Virgin Mary, and that of Saint Joseph and Saint Pius X, we are assured of remaining faithful to the Roman Catholic Church and to all the successors of Peter, and of being the fideles dispensatores mysteriorum Domini Nostri Jesu Christi in Spiritu Sancto. Amen.

[Salvation]

American Catholic’s Saint of the Day

August 21, 2007

St. Pius X

(1835-1914)

Pope Pius X is perhaps best remembered for his encouragement of the frequent reception of Holy Communion, especially by children.

The second of 10 children in a poor Italian family, Joseph Sarto became Pius X at 68, one of the twentieth century’s greatest popes.

Ever mindful of his humble origin, he stated, “I was born poor, I lived poor, I will die poor.” He was embarrassed by some of the pomp of the papal court. “Look how they have dressed me up,” he said in tears to an old friend. To another, “It is a penance to be forced to accept all these practices. They lead me around surrounded by soldiers like Jesus when he was seized in Gethsemani.”

Interested in politics, he encouraged Italian Catholics to become more politically involved. One of his first papal acts was to end the supposed right of governments to interfere by veto in papal elections—a practice that reduced the freedom of the conclave which elected him.

In 1905, when France renounced its agreement with the Holy See and threatened confiscation of Church property if governmental control of Church affairs were not granted, Pius X courageously rejected the demand.

While he did not author a famous social encyclical as his predecessor had done, he denounced the ill treatment of the Indians on the plantations of Peru, sent a relief commission to Messina after an earthquake and sheltered refugees at his own expense.

On the eleventh anniversary of his election as pope, Europe was plunged into World War I. Pius had foreseen it, but it killed him. “This is the last affliction the Lord will visit on me. I would gladly give my life to save my poor children from this ghastly scourge.” He died a few weeks after the war began.

Comment:

His humble background was no obstacle in relating to a personal God and to people whom he loved genuinely. He gained his strength, his gentleness and warmth for people from the source of all gifts, the Spirit of Jesus. In contrast, we often feel embarrassed by our backgrounds. Shame makes us prefer to remain aloof from people whom we perceive as superior. If we are in a superior position, on the other hand, we often ignore simpler people. Yet we, too, have to help “restore all things in Christ,” especially the wounded people of God.

Quote:

Describing Pius X, a historian wrote that he was “a man of God who knew the unhappiness of the world and the hardships of life, and in the greatness of his heart wanted to comfort everyone.”