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EUCHARIST: HOLY MEAL
Trinity Communications ^ | 1994 | Dr. Scott Hahn

Posted on 04/30/2002 10:45:13 PM PDT by oremus

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To: oremus
Good News For The Day

‘But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.‘ (John 12:32)

"When Peter saw that his master was about to be arrested, he drew his sword, but Jesus stopped him. This was the second time in the course of Jesus' career, that Peter had acted rashly against the spirit and intention of Jesus. Earlier he had remonstrated with Jesus who had announced that he would go to Jerusalem, and there be rejected and killed. Jesus had turned to Peter and rebuked him saying, "Get behind me, Satan." Jesus was intent on a mission in which he would be 'lifted up from the earth." Peter did not accept nor understand this."

"It would be well for us to remember that all the good that we have embraced in our lives, came to us via the sacrificial spirit. Our higher qualities were not pressed or flogged into us by force. We were drawn to them by the appeal of gentler things. The love of mother and father; the fellowship of fine people; the attraction of things good and right."

"The futility of force is seen in its capacity to scatter and sow evil, even in its effort to eliminate it. Those who go to war, often find themselves committing the same barbarities they are seeking to root out. Armies and navies can win battles, but they cannot win the peace. We problems of the human race will never be solved by violence. To expect otherwise is like expecting a cure for aids to arise from fornication."

"One day when Abraham Lincoln was with company in the White House, he made a hopeful and conciliatory remark about the South. A woman heard him, and was angry. "How can you speak like that about your enemies, when you should be seeking their destruction?" Lincoln replied: "What madam? And do I not destroy them when I make them my friends?"

"May the love that was willing to be... 'lifted up from the earth'---find its way into my life."

21 posted on 05/01/2002 1:02:06 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: RnMomof7
Jesus Christ is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, he blessed the bread and the wine and declared that it was His body and His blood and commanded his disciples eat and drink of it. Passover was the meal of the old covenant, the Eucharist is the meal of the New Covenant. If meals sealed covenants then how could you share in the covenant is you didn't share in the meal? If the feast of the lamb is part of the atonement of sins, how can you your sins be atoned for if you have not eaten of the lamb?
22 posted on 05/01/2002 1:04:55 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Flying Circus
Did you ever happen to think that in the new heavens-earth religion will be obsolete?
23 posted on 05/01/2002 1:11:57 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: oremus
DO THIS IN MEMORY OF ME."
It doesn't get any plainer than that. YAWN.

And indeed it is plain we are to keep that memorial untill He comes again...Just as the Jews were told of the Passover Exd 13:10 Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance in his season from year to year.

Like the passover the Lords supper is a memorial to be kept for all time...

Jesus gave His covenant a meal of remembrance

24 posted on 05/01/2002 1:19:59 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Flying Circus
If the feast of the lamb is part of the atonement of sins, how can you your sins be atoned for if you have not eaten of the lamb?

What were the final words of Jesus on the cross???

25 posted on 05/01/2002 1:26:00 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; Catholic_list
Right. And we Catholics are the only ones who are keeping that Memorial - which is the Mass. Go back and study the early Church Fathers - IT'S ALL RIGHT THERE! The early Christians DIED FOR THE MASS - FOR THE EUCHARIST! And you would call it an abomination??? Lord, Have Mercy!
26 posted on 05/01/2002 1:26:30 PM PDT by oremus
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To: RnMomof7
Read THE FOURTH CUP I posted in the other thread, regarding "It is finished." You're missing something big.
27 posted on 05/01/2002 1:27:52 PM PDT by oremus
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Right. And we Catholics are the only ones who are keeping that Memorial - which is the Mass. Go back and study the early Church Fathers - IT'S ALL RIGHT THERE! The early Christians DIED FOR THE MASS - FOR THE EUCHARIST! And you would call it an abomination??? Lord, Have Mercy!

NO your own doctrine calls it "the unbloody sacrifice" of Calvery...now you have incorporated the memorial meal as ordained by Christ into the mass..but Christ did not at any time say you were to have an unbloody sacrifice. Salvation is in the shedding of blood..

28 posted on 05/01/2002 1:29:24 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: oremus
Read THE FOURTH CUP I posted in the other thread, regarding "It is finished." You're missing something big.

That cup will be drunk at the marriage supper of the Lamb...

29 posted on 05/01/2002 1:30:25 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Read it. You are dead wrong. Read it.
30 posted on 05/01/2002 1:48:15 PM PDT by oremus
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I agree with everything you said except that I don't believe that Jesus was using such an explicit "metaphor" when he said

"‘Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. I am the bread of life. Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. This is bread which comes down from heaven, that a man may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh.’ The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, ‘How can this man give us his flesh to eat?’ So Jesus said to them, ‘Truly truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed’" (John 6:47-55).

I think He makes His point very clear. He had plenty of opportunity to "clarify" His meaning, and I believe that He did.

We actually are not that far apart. The hold up is simply I have faith that Jesus Christ is Really Present in the Holy Eucharist. I believe that in partaking of communion, I welcome Jesus Christ into my body and my soul. The Catholic Mass is about solely about Jesus Christ and his death for our salvation.

God bless you and you family.

31 posted on 05/01/2002 1:54:50 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: RnMomof7
"It is finished." And you are begging the question.
32 posted on 05/01/2002 3:32:11 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: oremus
Thanks for the post. Pretty scary stuff to call the Lord's words an abomination. Yikes. Oh to be a fly on the wall on the judgement day of those...................
33 posted on 05/01/2002 6:36:15 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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Scary indeed. And it gets worse:

IT GETS WORSE

34 posted on 05/01/2002 7:33:15 PM PDT by oremus
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"Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had said the blessing he broke it and gave it to the disciples. 'Take it and eat,' he said, 'this is my body.' Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he handed it to them saying, "Drink from this all of you, for this is my blood, the blood of the covenant, poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." Matthew 26: 26-28

Eucharistic BTTT!

35 posted on 07/22/2002 10:12:58 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: oremus
Thought for the Day

Since Christ Himself has said, "This is My Body" who shall dare to doubt that It is His Body?

 -- St Cyril of Jerusalem

36 posted on 10/27/2002 8:32:28 AM PST by Salvation
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To: oremus
BTTT -- Feast of the Most Holy Body and Blood of Christ
37 posted on 06/12/2003 1:37:28 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Now don't get on my case for bumping an older thread.

Why should it be reposted when it is already taking up bandwidth?
38 posted on 06/12/2003 1:38:48 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Nice BTTT, Salvation!
39 posted on 06/12/2003 5:45:35 PM PDT by oremus
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