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[Catholic Caucus] Pope Leo seeks status update of Francis’s divisive look at divorced and remarried Catholics
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| October 2, 2026
| Nicole Winfield
Posted on 10/03/2026 11:57:33 AM PDT by ebb tide
[Catholic Caucus] Pope Leo seeks status update of Francis’s divisive look at divorced and remarried Catholics
ROME — Ten years after Pope Francis sent shock waves through the Catholic Church with his outreach to divorced and civilly remarried Catholics, Pope Leo XIV is inviting church leaders to Rome next week to understand how Francis’s document has been implemented.
Vatican officials on Friday stressed that Francis’s 2016 text Amoris Laetitia (“The Joy of Love”) isn’t up for rewriting, amending or scrapping. Rather, the weeklong closed-door conference starting Wednesday is meant to understand how bishops have incorporated the document’s teaching into their local communities.
Francis’s document covers a host of issues relating to how the Catholic Church can better minister to families today. But when it was released after a yearslong consultation, Amoris Laetitia immediately sparked controversy because it opened the door to letting civilly remarried Catholics receive Communion.
Church teaching holds that unless these Catholics obtain an annulment — a church decree that their first marriage was invalid — they cannot receive the sacraments, since they are seen as living in sin and committing adultery.
RELATED: Footnotes and tea leaves with Pope Leo and Amoris Laetitia
Francis didn’t create a church-wide pass for these Catholics, but suggested — in vague terms and a single, strategically placed footnote — that bishops and priests could do so on a case-by-case basis after accompanying them on a spiritual journey of discernment.
Subsequent comments and writings made clear Francis intended such wiggle room, part of his belief that God’s mercy extends in particular to sinners and that the Eucharist isn’t a prize for the perfect but nourishment for the weak.
The document became one of the most divisive of Francis’s pontificate and in many ways became the focal point of conservative opposition to his papacy. Mostly conservative Catholics said it had sown confusion among the faithful about the church’s teaching on the indissolubility of marriage. Some even accused Francis of heresy.
A conference not to rewrite the text, but see what next steps are
On Friday, Vatican officials said it would be up to the 187 participants whether specific points of Francis’s document would be discussed and how, insisting there was no prewritten final document.
“We can’t foresee what themes will emerge from the bishops’ reflections, from their experiences,” said Gabriella Gambino, undersecretary in the Vatican’s family office, which is organizing the meeting.
Father Giacomo Costa, of the Vatican’s synod office, said the Oct. 7-14 meeting was not a continuation of the synod on the family that provided the consultation leading to Francis’s text or a chance to rewrite it.
“This is not a continuation of the synod itself, but rather an opportunity to assess where we stand,” he told a Vatican briefing. “It does not mean passing judgment as in school — praising or criticizing the text itself — but rather learning from the experience gained since its publication.”
He said organizers expect differences, disagreements, tensions and open questions to emerge.
“We don’t want to arrive at an artificial consensus,” he said, though he added a final summary was expected to be published.
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Vatican officials on Friday stressed that Francis’s 2016 text Amoris Laetitia (“The Joy of Love”) isn’t up for rewriting, amending or scrapping. ...
Amoris Laetitia immediately sparked controversy because it opened the door to letting civilly remarried Catholics receive Communion.
Church teaching holds that unless these Catholics obtain an annulment — a church decree that their first marriage was invalid — they cannot receive the sacraments, since they are seen as living in sin and committing adultery.
...
The document became one of the most divisive of Francis’s pontificate and in many ways became the focal point of conservative opposition to his papacy. Mostly conservative Catholics said it had sown confusion among the faithful about the church’s teaching on the indissolubility of marriage. Some even accused Francis of heresy.
Leo apparently is proceeding full steam ahead with Bergoglio's synodal "church".
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posted on
10/03/2026 11:57:33 AM PDT
by
ebb tide
To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...
Barf Alert Ping
Vatican officials say the Amoris Laetitia summit will examine what the Church has ‘learned’ from a decade of 'trying to live' the document rather than evaluating the text itself.
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posted on
10/03/2026 12:02:02 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(Bergoglio's synodal "church" is not the Catholic Church.)
To: ebb tide
Old joke.
Two ministers extend their hands to smilingly tell Catholic priests: “We just wanted to thank you again for all the new congregants we have thanks to the Catholic rules on remarriage.”
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posted on
10/03/2026 12:10:19 PM PDT
by
frank ballenger
(There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
“We will not try to erase differences to arrive at a consensus: Even a divergence that is better understood can be a fruit of listening,” Jesuit Father Giacomo Costa, a consultant to the General Secretariat of the Synod, said in prepared remarks at a Vatican press conference Oct. 2.
“Ten years later, the question is not what ‘Amoris Laetitia’ says, but what we have learned by trying to live it,” he added.
In other words, we will not discuss the heresy of the document, we will learn how the heresy has encouraged mortal sin and the damnation of souls.
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posted on
10/03/2026 12:19:36 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(Bergoglio's synodal "church" is not the Catholic Church.)
To: ebb tide; Cronos; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o
To: SavannahWonderer
Link has nothing to do with the topic article.
Your feeble attempt to divert from the heretical Amoris Laetita, aka Catholic divorce, is duly noted.
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posted on
10/03/2026 12:36:00 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(Bergoglio's synodal "church" is not the Catholic Church.)
To: ebb tide
Amoris Laetitia immediately sparked controversy because it opened the door to letting civilly remarried Catholics receive Communion. In my view the real problem was equating divorced and remarried Catholics with homosexual unions. The first attempts to show mercy by providing annulments while the second is intrinsically disordered and impossible.
The Orthodox Church views marriage as a lifelong, indissoluble sacrament,
but it permits divorce and remarriage out of pastoral compassion and oikonomia (economy or stewardship) when a marriage has genuinely died. Matthew 9:
- And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.
- And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.
- And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
- But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
- But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Catholics permit divorce, so divorce is not the issue, just remarriage. Perhaps the Greeks have a better pastoral solution than annulments.
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posted on
10/03/2026 1:37:09 PM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
The first attempts to show mercy by providing annulments while the second is intrinsically disordered and impossible.There is no mercy when the Church issues "annulments" of valid sacramental marriages which happens far too often.
Pope Francis once said he believed a great majority of sacramental marriages were invalid. Where did he pull that figure out of? And why was he so focused on free and many "annulments"? He's made a joke out the Holy Sacrament of Matrimony and Amoris Laetitia is a sad result.
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posted on
10/03/2026 2:06:18 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(Bergoglio's synodal "church" is not the Catholic Church.)
To: af_vet_1981
Perhaps the Greeks have a better pastoral solution than annulments.Then you're welcome to join the Greeks when you're ready to ditch your spouse.
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posted on
10/03/2026 2:07:32 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(Bergoglio's synodal "church" is not the Catholic Church.)
To: ebb tide
Then you're welcome to join the Greeks when you're ready to ditch your spouse
Interesting default reaction; I tend to view it from the other side, the side of the victims who were left by their spouses, But wisdom is justified of all her children.
To whom did the blessed Apostle Paul go after going the Jews first in every city, and how many of his children were Greeks ?
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posted on
10/03/2026 9:21:49 PM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: ebb tide
Where did he pull that figure out of? And why was he so focused on free and many "annulments"? He's made a joke out the Holy Sacrament of Matrimony and Amoris Laetitia is a sad result. - The privilege of the office ?
- I find the emphasis on blessing homosexuals and normalizing homosexuality much more concerning, the Trojan Horse of Amoris Laetitia, so to speak.
Matthew 23
- Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
- Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
- All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
- For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
- But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
- And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
- And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
- But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
- And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
- Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
- But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
- And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
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posted on
10/03/2026 9:43:57 PM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: ebb tide; SavannahWonderer; Oystir
Ebb tide, did you actually read the entire article or just snippets?? The news report details that the Vatican is gathering bishops and theologians to review the implementation and pastoral application of Pope Francis’s 2016 apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia over the past decade.
Evaluating pastoral outcomes, identifying regional confusion, and establishing clear doctrinal boundaries is standard governance. Gathering facts on how a pastoral document is being applied locally is how the Church maintains unity and prevents error - any Catholic would know that. do you?
Reviewing pastoral implementation does not change Church dogma. The Church's defined teaching on the indissolubility of sacramental marriage (Matthew 19:6; Council of Trent, Session XXIV) remains unchanged and binding.
• Pastoral care assesses subjective culpability and spiritual accompaniment on a case-by-case basis.
• Dogma defines objective truth, which no Pope or review commission can overturn.
Taking news updates out of context to manufacture panic ignores the fact that assessing pastoral practice while upholding dogma is standard governance.
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posted on
10/05/2026 5:02:33 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.)
To: ebb tide; SavannahWonderer; Oystir
Ebb tide, the very articles you posted completely refute your argument in plain English:
Your own quote explicitly confirms: "Vatican officials on Friday stressed that Francis’s 2016 text Amoris Laetitia isn’t up for rewriting, amending or scrapping." The Church's defined dogma on the indissolubility of marriage remains 100% intact as your own link confirms.
THEN when the Vatican holds a meeting to listen to pastoral experiences, you twist official statements into "learning how heresy has encouraged the damnation of souls."
You are no longer defending Catholic Tradition. You have made your own personal judgment superior to the Magisterium, the Code of Canon Law, and the Vicar of Christ. That isn't Catholicism
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posted on
10/05/2026 5:12:55 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.)
To: ebb tide; af_vet_1981
Ebb tide "Pope Francis once said ...." -- so you dig up something from a decade ago!
On June 16, 2016 Pope Francis did state in one of his infamous (idiotic) off-the-cuff remarks and yet the very next day, with Pope Francis's approval, the official Vatican transcript was corrected from "a great majority" to "a portion of our sacramental marriages." clarifying that Frankie's intent was a pastoral warning about poor marriage preparation and societal secularism, not a formal legal decree.
Pope Francis reformed the canonical process in 2015 (Mitis Iudex Dominus Iesus) to eliminate automatic mandatory appeals and court fees. The goal was to remove financial barriers and bureaucratic delays for suffering faithful seeking canonical clarity, not to "make a joke" out of Matrimony. Frankie was an embarassment and didn't know how to express his thought process using hyperbole to highlight a real pastoral problem: millions of modern secularized people enter marriage with a "pre-planned exit strategy" (accepting divorce mentally before they even say "I do").
This was of warning that poor catechesis leads to invalid consent was a sweeping generalization. For a Catholic marriage to be valid in the eyes of God, three basic requirements must be met:
1. Validly exchanging consent before an authorized witness.
2. No existing valid marriage, coercion, or blood relationship.
3. Both spouses must actually intend a lifelong, exclusive union open to children.
Under traditional Canon Law, if a person stands at the altar and says "until death do us part," but internally holds that they will get a divorce if things get difficult, they commit what Canon Law calls total or partial simulation of consent.
Because the sacrament requires free, total, and permanent consent, a person who explicitly rejects the indissolubility of marriage at the moment of consent invalidates their own vows. In a hyper-secularized society where divorce is treated as normal, a substantial portion of people exchange vows without actually intending a lifelong covenant.
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posted on
10/05/2026 5:41:09 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.)
To: af_vet_1981
af - you claimed "Catholics permit divorce." --> This is factually incorrect. Catholic Canon Law (Canon 1151–1155) permits physical civil separation in severe cases (e.g., domestic abuse, abandonment) for safety and legal protections. However, civil separation does not dissolve the bond. The spouses remain 100% married before God until death.
you then quoted Matthew 9 regarding mercy, but completely ignore Christ’s direct commandment on Matrimony in Matthew 19:6–9 and Mark 10:11–12:
"What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder... Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her; and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."
We cannot use "pastoral mercy" (oikonomia) to set aside a direct, explicit prohibition spoken by Jesus Christ Himself. True mercy brings sinners to repentance and grace; it cannot bless what Christ defined as adultery.
Annulment vs. Oikonomia -- The two approaches are fundamentally different in theology:
Oikonomia: Acknowledges that a valid sacrament existed, but claims the Church has the authority to dissolve it or grant a "second/third marriage" out of human weakness.
In contrast Annulment is that no valid marriage ever existed from the very beginning due to a fundamental defect in consent, form, or capacity.
If a marriage was validly contracted, not even a Pope or Patriarch has the power to dissolve it. An annulment does not "break" a sacrament; it investigates and proves that the sacrament was never validly formed.
The Council of Trent (Session XXIV, Canon 7) dogmatically defined that remarriage after divorce is adultery. An annulment upholds truth by recognizing where a sacrament was absent; oikonomia attempts to rewrite Christ’s explicit words on indissolubility. Genuine mercy must always rest on Divine Truth.
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posted on
10/05/2026 5:45:42 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.)
To: Cronos
To clarify "Catholics permit divorce": - Catholic people permit divorce now, when a generation or so ago, they did not, and that is because in 1992 with the publication of the modern Catechism of the Catholic Church, a formal, explicit recognition that obtaining a civil divorce is not inherently sinful was codified.
- The Church does not consider a civil divorce sinful if a spouse pursues it as a necessary legal maneuver to protect themselves or their children from abuse, abandonment, or financial injustice.
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posted on
10/05/2026 5:58:21 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: Cronos
We cannot use "pastoral mercy" (oikonomia) to set aside a direct, explicit prohibition spoken by Jesus Christ Himself.
And yet all canonical autocephalous and autonomous Eastern Orthodox Christian Churches permit divorce and remarriage through pastoral mercy ...
Remember how vulnerable women have been through the centuries.
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posted on
10/05/2026 6:02:41 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
Of course in modern America the tables have turned; now men too are vulnerable to spiritual damage if a spouse leaves them for another, divorces them, and remarries another. The marriage is broken.
The prohibition against remarrying a previous spouse after they have been married to someone else is found in the Old Testament law in Deuteronomy 24:1–4. The text states that if a man divorces a woman, she marries a second husband, and that second marriage also ends (either by divorce or the death of the second husband), the first husband is strictly forbidden from marrying her again.
Deuteronomy 24:
- When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
- And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
- And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
- Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
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posted on
10/05/2026 6:10:06 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: Cronos
Of course in modern America the tables have turned; now men too are vulnerable to spiritual damage if a spouse leaves them for another, divorces them, and remarries another. The marriage is broken.
The prohibition against remarrying a previous spouse after they have been married to someone else is found in the Old Testament law in Deuteronomy 24:1–4. The text states that if a man divorces a woman, she marries a second husband, and that second marriage also ends (either by divorce or the death of the second husband), the first husband is strictly forbidden from marrying her again.
Deuteronomy 24:
- When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
- And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
- And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
- Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
Further, there was a "porneia" exception in Yeshua's teaching on marriage. The Church has chosen to interpret that as a nonsacremental marriage (unlawful marriage) and thus can grant a ruling of annulment, which is not at all obvious in the Greek text. That the Greeks see it diffently is important. They know Church history from the beginning and the language.
The Greek Orthodox Church interprets porneia (πορνεία) as sexual immorality or marital infidelity, including adultery, and views it as a valid scriptural ground for the dissolution of a marriage, which can allow for remarriage through pastoral economy.
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posted on
10/05/2026 6:19:29 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
Your #1 is incorrect. The Church doesn’t recognize a civil marriage or divorce as anything but “state related”
If you have a Civil marriage and not a Church marriage, then it is not a sacrament, it is not viewed by the Church as a marriage.
If you have a civil divorce, then the Church doesn’t look or care or think about it at all.
similarly - if you go and register at the civil registrar to own a car the church doesn’t care
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posted on
10/05/2026 7:11:45 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.)
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