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Posted on 06/29/2026 9:14:16 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
As he aged, Jefferson spoke passionately about the prospect of meeting loved ones in heaven, assuring a bereaved John Adams after the death of his wife Abigail, that “it is of some comfort to us both that the term is not very distant at which we are to deposit, in the same cerement, our sorrows and suffering bodies, and to ascend in essence to an ecstatic meeting with the friends we have loved & lost and whom we shall still love and never lose again.”
In the end, he seems to have believed in a heaven or, at least, as historian Johann Neem says, he had “hope.”
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“Jefferson’s Bible” makes much more sense than the Pauline gobbledegook of the KJV.
He obviously took issue with religion and its many corruptions and hypocrisies throughout his whole life, but I do think John Adams (and Abigail, who also was fond of Jefferson) made him less a skeptic.
oh come on. enough of this leftist mendacity about Th. Jefferson.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights: among them, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
if Jefferson believed that, then he believed in a miracle working God. a God that grants eternal life to those who believe on Him; he believed in a God that said “I am the way, the truth, and the life: No man comes to the Father, but by me.”
People change and evolve as they age. Deists like Jefferson believed in a Creator God, and still rejected the divinity of Jesus and the Trinity. It’s not Leftist myth. There is a “Jeffersonian Bible” he wrote himself - with all the miracles removed...
But toward the end of his life, his heart softened...
you got it all wrong.
you bought the ‘Deist’ enlightenment myths promulgated by the left. but apparently haven’t checked the writings of Jefferson for yourself. which, if you think about it, makes some sense even for us believers. for instance, an easy Biblical case can be made for this age being the ‘Age of Faith’ vs. ‘The Age of Signs and Wonders.’
for instance, if you study history and original sources including his own writing, you’ll find that the so called Jefferson ‘Bible’ (that you keep touting) was written as a primer of sorts for the heathen in America, the native peoples. it was also an abridged version (like every story book Bible for instance) to be studied for ethics and law apart from the supernatural.
similarly with the fake interpretation of ‘Separation of Church and State.’
shugs, you’ll believe what you want to.
You can’t just make these real live people into dolls and action figures, and project your own realities and desires onto them. Jefferson’s deism is thoroughly verified and documented by his OWN WRITINGS. And nothing in the Declaration goes against Deism, which robustly believes in a Creator.
Especially with as much record there exists of him. Just read his own writings and the hundreds of letters he wrote to Adams and his other peers.
What IS up for debate, is where he stood at the END of his life. He died the same day as John Adams, on the 4th of July, 1826. Divine coincidence perhaps!
And to clarify the Jeffersonian Bible was not an original piece of writing. It was the original Bible with Jefferson *edited* by removing all the supernatural and miraculous elements.
ok. movin’ on. let others look for the ‘truth’ about Jefferson for themselves. i strongly caution them against yours.
In the end, he seems to have believed in a heaven or, at least, as historian Johann Neem says, he had “hope.”
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Since Deists usually denied the existence of Heaven, he seems conflicted with his earlier and erroneous beliefs.
To conclude: he rejected the Resurrection as well. Which is what Christianity stands or falls on.
And dispensationalism was not a thing among the actual Christians of the time either. The Puritans especially were Covenantal.
Abraham was saved by his faith, by the way. As were all the prophets. That’s what the apostle Paul made crystal clear. So maybe it’s you who has the edited Bible?
Yes, only God knows now but his later writings are definitely encouraging. Ben Franklin had a similar trajectory. Praise God.
Thomas Paine, however, was not given proper burial because everyone believed him to be anti-Christian at the time of his death.
Does it now? The one whete he cut out the verses he didn’t like? That one?
Thr Smithsonian *has* his bible - where he had cut out offending scripture. I recall seeing it in the Smithsonian magazine.
i have his translation and abridged so called ‘Bible’ which his enemies like to style it. it’s a fantastic read and a great translation. no doubt his Ancient Greek was very good. it’s very useful to understand Jesus’ teaching on pure ethics.
his enemies, somewhat understandably make much of it.
>> “Jefferson’s Bible” makes much more sense than the Pauline gobbledegook of the KJV.
Well that’s certainly uppermost in the mind of the LORD, to ensure that His WORD makes sense to you... lowlife crapstain.
On the other hand, I greatly prefer the “Pauline gobbledegook”... having actually STUDIED it (in the context of studying ALL of GOD’s Holy Word). You clearly have not done that. Lowlife garbage-spewing crapstain. It’s not too late to repent though.
Bob Wills IS Still The King! And it’s plain that you, unwisely, are still a lowlife progressive troll crapstain. Not spiritually healthy!
he ‘cut out’ (if you must use those words) things not related to law and ethics. the things he left were translated with fidelity in my opinion.
if someone gives just the NT did they cut out the old? if someone publishes a story book Bible for kids did they cut out the adult stuff. i don’t think the admonition in the Revelation of John applies to me when i quote a verse from the Bible with out inserting reference to the whole.
oh well, my opinion.
“Pauline gobbledgook”
as they say on the scaffolds “God have mercy on your soul.”
Your opinion.
As you yourself referenced, John’s admonition was pretty absolute, IIRC. There are reasons for it.
But, you do you.
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