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Posted on 06/11/2026 5:58:12 AM PDT by Cronos
Rambam states that for gentiles who wish to have a place in the world to come, they don't need to convert to Judaism. All they need to do is keep the 7 laws of Noah because they were mandated by Hashem.
https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Kings_and_Wars.9-10?lang=bi
The first of the seven Noahide commandments however is not to worship idols, and Christianity is considered by Rambam and others to be avodah zarah. This has also been discussed on Mi Yodeya here. Is Christianity Avodah Zara?
Given the discussions on the status of Christianity and the prohibition of avodah zarah for Noahides, can one be a Noahide and a Christian at the same time ?
How about being a Noahide and rejecting Christianity as a doctrine, but taking part in Christian religious activities such as sermons, baptisms, etc?
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Answers:
1. While there may be forms of Christianity which are less problematic than others, the underlying idea behind the religion is problematic. (Some forms reject the trinity and some forms don't practice the symbolic cannibalism others do) The fundamental nature of Christianity runs counter to what Judaism established: - Their religion is based around a human sacrifice for sin atonement. That concept contradicts very fundamental ideas in Judaism. Judaism rejects entirely the idea that a human sacrifice should occur at all. Our worst enemies practiced human sacrifice. Our rejection of that is part of what separated us from other nations at the time. Hashem separated himself by rejecting a human sacrifice (Isaac) and requested a ram sacrifice instead. That entire narrative relates to how human blood for sin is not how Hashem operates. When you add Jesus into the equation (a being they claimed was God in flesh) and then state God sacrificed a person (who was himself at the time) for sin forgiveness, it contradicts everything we established in Torah. Why would Hashem break his own standard? That makes no sense.
- Their nature of sin itself is different. Judaism establishes that we each carry our own sins. We are not responsible for the sins of our families or ancestors unless we carry on their mistakes and continue them. Outside of that, we all have our own moral bank account. Christianity changed that relationship with the concept of Original Sin. They state that we all carry the universal burden of the sin Eve made when she disobeyed God (the original sin). While it's true her actions fundamentally changed the nature of humanity (and made us as we are) the fact is Judaism rejects the idea that Hashem has added a sin debt to every human by default because of her actions. Our sins are our own and her sins were hers. We don't all start off in the negative because of her actions. Hashem is just and such a standard would be the opposite of justice.
- Their fundamental belief in Christianity is that you need Jesus for heaven. That statement is the "no, no" to end all "no, nos". Jesus fundamentally changed the system by stating that no one can get to the father except through him. That statement is a gross violation of everything established beforehand and it created a situation where a middle-man positioned himself in a such a way where you needed him piggybacking onto your teshuvah process if you wanted full forgiveness. Nothing about that has anything to do with Judaism. It's a perversion of it to build something new around one man.
Whether you are a Jew or whether you are a Noahide, if you are still participating in religious activities developed by Christian tradition, you're cheating on Hashem. You're giving an aspect of your divine life to someone else and pretending you're not being unfaithful because your "heart is in the right place" while doing it.
That's not how it works. When you take on foreign worship practices, you are cheating on Hashem.
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Not all Christians follow the trinity dogma.
Reformed and Presbytarian Churches only accept the teachings of the Bible. Members are allowed to accept the trinity dogma but it is not part of reformed theology.
Witnesses of Jehova and Unitarians reject the trinity dogma.
In this sense, it is possible to be Christian and Noahide.
Do you follow this? Let’s discuss
For those of us who don’t speak Hebrew please define “avodah zarah”.
The answer is no. Christians understand that salvation is through faith in the life, death and resurrection of God's Son, the Messiah, Yeshua aka Jesus. Christians understand that we are not saved, we do not satisfy God's will - by keeping the Law of Moses or any other law.
"19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin. Righteousness Through Faith 21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in[h] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[i] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus. 27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. 28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30 since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law." Romans 3:19-31
Don’t know what a RAMBAM is, nor do I care. But the Bible is clear, the LAW leads to death and Jesus Christ leads to Life eternal.
Their religion is based around a human sacrifice for sin atonement
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And that’s why Judaism is antichrist.
They don’t get it.
So, why wouldn’t an antichrist rabbi think the blood of the Passover Lamb doesn’t begin a New Covenant?
He rejects the Son.
So He doesn’t have the Father.
The Passover Lamb, the Unleavened Bread of Sincerity and Truth, and the First Fruits of those fallen asleep, is the stumbling block cornerstone that Islam and Judaism trip over.
It sounds like Noahides would trip over Him too..
To become a Christian, one must confess that Jesus is the Son of God and believe that he is the savior sent by God. At least that is requirement laid down by Jesus.
There is no salvation in Noahide, whatever that is.
Ya got me laughing!!!
Sounds like a bunch of blasphemous BS to me. Core aspects of the Trinity within the Reformed tradition include:
Nicene Orthodoxy: Reformed confessions (such as the Westminster Confession of Faith and the Belgic Confession) fully adopt the teachings of the historic ecumenical creeds. They affirm that all three persons are co-eternal, co-equal, and of the same substance.
Unity of Will: While the persons of the Trinity have distinct roles, they always act in perfect unity. In the context of salvation (soteriology), they work cooperatively: the Father elects, the Son atones, and the Spirit applies this redemption to believers.
It’s not possible to be Christian+, period.
I remember the day when great herds of Naugas roamed the land.
Then came the demand for recliners and they were driven into extinction.
“There is no Salvation in Noahchide, whatever that is”.
You don’t know what it is but you are willing to condemn it without understanding it. I’m seeing more and more of that.
The basis for the Adventist, LDS and JW religion is earning God’s blessing by works. Faith and Justification are not enough. It’s also why they have traditionally viewed Protestants as apostate.
Ironically, Protestantism and Catholicism was also heavily works-based throughout history.
And what exact part of the Trinity are they allowed to reject?
Are they allowed to reject that the Father exists? Are they allowed to reject that Jesus is literally God.
Then they are not Christian. They may claim it and have all the trappings, but if you reject the deity of Christ you are not Christian.
But, I don’t buy your claim. I was a member of one Reform church or another for over a decade. The Belgic and Westminster Confessions are at the heart of Reform Theology. Look up the Trinity in either confession and get back to me.
I do not accept the label “Nohide” and could care less what some Jewish people may think of me or what I believe.
More lies. The Adventists do NOT believe Salvation is earned by works. You have slandered them wrongly.
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