A Warning Rejected (Who is the woman Babylon in Revelation 17?)

The Great Controversy ^ | 1911 | Ellen White

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The woman (Babylon) of Revelation 17 is described as “arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness:...and upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots.” Says the prophet: “I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.” Babylon is further declared to be “that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” Revelation 17:4-6, 18. The power that for so many centuries maintained despotic sway over the monarchs of Christendom is Rome. The purple and scarlet color, the gold and precious stones and pearls, vividly picture the magnificence and more than kingly pomp affected by the haughty see of Rome. And no other power could be so truly declared “drunken with the blood of the saints” as that church which has so cruelly persecuted the followers of Christ. Babylon is also charged with the sin of unlawful connection with “the kings of the earth.” It was by departure from the Lord, and alliance with the heathen, that the Jewish church became a harlot; and Rome, corrupting herself in like manner by seeking the support of worldly powers, receives a like condemnation.

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The author adds:

Babylon is said to be “the mother of harlots.” By her daughters must be symbolized churches that cling to her doctrines and traditions, and follow her example of sacrificing the truth and the approval of God, in order to form an unlawful alliance with the world. The message of Revelation 14, announcing the fall of Babylon must apply to religious bodies that were once pure and have become corrupt. Since this message follows the warning of the judgment, it must be given in the last days; therefore it cannot refer to the Roman Church alone, for that church has been in a fallen condition for many centuries. Furthermore, in the eighteenth chapter of the Revelation the people of God are called upon to come out of Babylon. According to this scripture, many of God’s people must still be in Babylon. And in what religious bodies are the greater part of the followers of Christ now to be found? Without doubt, in the various churches professing the Protestant faith. At the time of their rise these churches took a noble stand for God and the truth, and His blessing was with them. Even the unbelieving world was constrained to acknowledge the beneficent results that followed an acceptance of the principles of the gospel. In the words of the prophet to Israel: “Thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through My comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.” But they fell by the same desire which was the curse and ruin of Israel—the desire of imitating the practices and courting the friendship of the ungodly. “Thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown.” Ezekiel 16:14, 15.

Many of the Protestant churches are following Rome’s example of iniquitous connection with “the kings of the earth”—the state churches, by their relation to secular governments; and other denominations, by seeking the favor of the world. And the term “Babylon”—confusion—may be appropriately applied to these bodies, all professing to derive their doctrines from the Bible, yet divided into almost innumerable sects, with widely conflicting creeds and theories.

[vespa300]

She is a city!

That alone is so overwhelming evidence and prophecy. The “City” ...

...this prophecy of AntiChrist....add Her colors, purple and scarlet, (see any picture of her) , her persecution, the blood on her hands, her abominations committed during her 1260 year reign of terror, her cruelty, her connection with Government leaders, her alliance with the heathen, Her Kingly pomp affected by the haughty seat of Rome, the golden cup in her hands, (sunday mass) “MOTHER OF HARLOTS”....the mother church so we see her daughters joining with her again in Revelation, at the end of time, union on common doctrine including a counterfeit law of God, a counterfeit holy day, .....
Those Protestant Reformers certainly recognized much of this. And “present truth” that is unfolding truth in the end reveals the Sabbath truth.....

[jimjohn]

... And some folks think the United States of America is never mentioned in the Bible. Tisk tisk...

[Theophilus]

The Jerusalem that was destroyed in 70AD.

[vespa300]

Notice God is calling his people in the last days to “COME OUT OF BABYLON”...Come out of her my people.

He has a big score to settle with her. You do not want to be associated with or her doctrines and “traditions” in any way. Justice will not sleep. Her atrocities committed during that 1260 year rule of terror will be recompensed.

Her attempt the change the very law of God, her persecution, her blasphemy, and she is going to lead the world into perdition again too......it’s all prophecy.

If anti Christ is a super religious spiritual power....and Jesus said there will church state union again....Mark 13:9, Revelation 13, the 2 beasts....etc ......there is only one clear answer who is power is.

And her wound has healed. She even wants Governments to make Sunday a LEGAL HOLIDAY!!! Enforced!

From her Catechism:

Section 2185, 2186, 2187, and 2188:

2185 On Sundays and other holy days of obligation, the faithful are to refrain from engaging in work or activities that hinder the worship owed to God, the joy proper to the Lord’s Day, the performance of the works of mercy, and the appropriate relaxation of mind and body.123 Family needs or important social service can legitimately excuse from the obligation of Sunday rest. the faithful should see to it that legitimate excuses do not lead to habits prejudicial to religion, family life, and health.

The charity of truth seeks holy leisure - the necessity of charity accepts just work.124

2186 Those Christians who have leisure should be mindful of their brethren who have the same needs and the same rights, yet cannot rest from work because of poverty and misery. Sunday is traditionally consecrated by Christian piety to good works and humble service of the sick, the infirm, and the elderly. Christians will also sanctify Sunday by devoting time and care to their families and relatives, often difficult to do on other days of the week. Sunday is a time for reflection, silence, cultivation of the mind, and meditation which furthers the growth of the Christian interior life.

2187 Sanctifying Sundays and holy days requires a common effort. Every Christian should avoid making unnecessary demands on others that would hinder them from observing the Lord’s Day. Traditional activities (sport, restaurants, etc.), and social necessities (public services, etc.), require some people to work on Sundays, but everyone should still take care to set aside sufficient time for leisure. With temperance and charity the faithful will see to it that they avoid the excesses and violence sometimes associated with popular leisure activities. In spite of economic constraints, public authorities should ensure citizens a time intended for rest and divine worship. Employers have a similar obligation toward their employees.

2188 In respecting religious liberty and the common good of all, Christians should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church’s holy days as legal holidays. They have to give everyone a public example of prayer, respect, and joy and defend their traditions as a precious contribution to the spiritual life of society. If a country’s legislation or other reasons require work on Sunday, the day should nevertheless be lived as the day of our deliverance which lets us share in this “festal gathering,” this “assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven.”125

https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P7O.HTM

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____And some folks think the United States of America is never mentioned in the Bible. Tisk tisk...____

Sadly, the 2nd beast of Revelation 13 is the United States. No other country fits the description. It will eventually betray it’s own constitution in a great time of trouble and global chaos. The world will look to the church for solutions to the catastrophic events coming. Unprecedented catastrophic events.

Jesus in Matthew 24 called it. We have no idea what is coming...the earthquakes, the floods, the pandemics, the economic ruin, the conflagarations, there will finally be an enforced weekly holy day....And eventually even a prohibition against keeping any other day....

Daniel 6:5 is very interesting. They hated Daniel and conspired a way to kill him......and they had nothing on him...so they decided if they were to get him...it would have to be something concerning the “law of his God.”

that’s coming again. It’s very interesting how the Sabbath triggers such unity......against it.

Daniel 6:5 NKJV

5 Then these men said, “We shall not find any charge against this Daniel unless we find it against him concerning the law of his God.”

[aMorePerfectUnion]

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I like how she talks about how great and noble were the Protestant churches at one time. They took a noble stand for God and truth. And God’s blessing was with them.

She says during that time even the unbelieving world saw the beneficent results of the Protestants that followed an acceptance of the gospel truth.

Sadly, she describes how many of these same Protestants have fallen today. .....”seeking favor of the world”..etc.

[vespa300]

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I don’t know dude. Seems pretty deep and profound to me. Most people have no idea what Revelation is even talking about.

She did a great job of explaining this prophecy bruh. NO other power fits. We can see why the Protestant Reformers also identified this haughty power.

I think you should check it out...homey.

I’ve never read anything like this ...homes...

[odawg]

Well, you can always carry your ass to another country if you choose to look down your nose at the United States. Can I suggest Haiti, North Korea, etc.? By the way, when have Americans killed Christians?

[larrytown]

Flagged as cultic spam written by a false prophetess.

One of the downsides of a country built on the respect for liberty.

[wita]

when have Americans killed Christians?

Someone might have been asleep during American History.

To keep it simple, I’d suggest any war America was engaged in from 1776 to present day would have involved killing Christians. If not those being fought then those doing the fighting.

[CptnObvious]

She is the logical culmination of the World System to be expressed in real time.

She is the opposite of "Love Not the World. She says, "Love the World; come all you simpletons, believe in me and I will give you all what your hearts desire. Come in to me".

She is currently restrained, by the Spirit and will of God ("Sufficient is the day for the evil thereof") until God removes the restraints for His will and good pleasure; the start of the END OF THE WORLD SYSTEM.

She gives birth to the Anti-Christ, which the World at that time, will fall head over heels. Promising Peace, Prosperity and Co-Existence, he will lie cheat and steal all that the devil wants through him. He will be government at its worst degree.P>

[jimjohn]

Tell ya what: Rather then providing a laundry list of countries and places where Christians have been killed by this government’s actions (or inactions), I’ll leave it to others.

I have to work so I can pay more taxes to a government that isn’t even open so we can start yet another war in Venezuela.

Pretty sure their maybe a Christians there - but who cares, right?

just my $0.02

[roving]

It described the Vatican perfectly.

[vespa300]

That’s who she is. Her priorities are listed in Revelation 18 too. Notice the last of her priorities...”The souls of men”

She is all about riches and power and control.

What an amazing prophecy even calling her that great “city.” We know her as the “eternal city.” And the world is marveling after her again. Her wound healed.

Revelation 18..her priorirties:

11 “And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore: 12 merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; 13 and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men. 14

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When all the nations attack Israel, we will do nothing. It could mean we are no longer a superpower. Something is going to happen where we will be unable to or don’t want to.

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____It described the Vatican perfectly.___

And God has people in that communion..thus the warning for the end......”come out of her my people.”

What a frightul warning. Similar to what Jesus said about Lot’s wife......”Remember Lot’s wife.”

Revelation 18:4
King James Version
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

[Cronos]

Who is the evil woman in rev?

well, perhaps it is the false prophetess with numerous false prophecies who founded the Satanic, non-Christian religion of Seventh Day Adventism?

Any objective examination of Seventh-day Adventist (SDA) beliefs show that the SDA deviates from established Christian doctrines. T

Doctrine	SDA Position	Biblical Critique
Identification of Jesus as the Archangel Michael	The SDA church teaches that Jesus Christ is the pre-incarnate Archangel Michael, portraying Him as the highest created angelic being who leads heavenly hosts.	This identification contravenes the New Testament's explicit affirmation of Christ's deity and supremacy over angels. Hebrews 1:5-8 states, "For to which of the angels did He ever say: 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You'" and "But to the Son He says: 'Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.'" This passage distinguishes the Son from angels, attributing divine worship and titles to Him alone. Furthermore, Jude 9 depicts Michael as deferring to divine authority ("The Lord rebuke you!"), whereas Jesus exercises such authority directly (e.g., Mark 1:25), underscoring His uncreated, eternal nature as God incarnate.
Entry of Jesus into the Heavenly Holy of Holies in 1844	SDA doctrine asserts that Christ did not enter the Most Holy Place of the heavenly sanctuary upon His ascension but commenced this phase of ministry on October 22, 1844, following the termination of the 2,300-day prophecy in Daniel 8:14.	The Epistle to the Hebrews refutes this temporal delay, declaring Christ's immediate high-priestly inauguration: "For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us" (Hebrews 9:24). Moreover, Hebrews 9:11-12 specifies that He "entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption," negating any post-ascension postponement. The 1844 construct derives from extra-biblical prophetic reinterpretation rather than direct scriptural mandate.
Rejection of the Immortality of the Soul	SDA theology endorses conditional immortality, positing that the soul is not inherently immortal but ceases conscious existence at death until resurrection; the unsaved face annihilation rather than eternal torment.	Scripture upholds the soul's innate immortality and immediate post-mortem consciousness. Luke 23:43 records Jesus assuring the thief, "Today you will be with Me in Paradise," implying instant transition to the afterlife. 2 Corinthians 5:8 affirms, "We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord," indicating no intermediate unconscious state. Ecclesiastes 12:7 describes the spirit's return to God at death, while Revelation 14:11 describes the wicked's "torment... forever and ever," contradicting annihilation.
Investigative Judgment	In SDA eschatology, an investigative judgment commenced in 1844, wherein Christ reviews the lives of professed believers to ascertain worthiness for salvation, determining eternal destinies based on a heavenly audit of deeds and forgiveness records.	This doctrine undermines the sufficiency of Christ's atonement, as Hebrews 10:14 declares, "For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified," obviating any subsequent review for validation. Romans 8:1 asserts, "There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus," establishing justification as immediate and irrevocable upon faith, not provisional upon investigative scrutiny. The concept lacks explicit biblical foundation and appears as an ad hoc resolution to the 1844 prophetic miscalculation.
Observance of the Seventh-Day Sabbath as Binding	SDA maintains that the seventh-day (Saturday) Sabbath constitutes an eternal moral imperative, obligatory for all Christians, with Sunday observance equated to the mark of the beast.	The New Testament abrogates Mosaic ceremonial laws, including sabbath-keeping, as shadows fulfilled in Christ. Colossians 2:16-17 instructs, "So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ." Hebrews 4:9-10 redefines rest as spiritual repose in Christ, transcending literal days: "For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His."
Authority of Ellen G. White as Prophet	The SDA church accords Ellen White's writings prophetic status, viewing them as divinely inspired commentary essential for biblical interpretation and doctrinal development.	Biblical criteria for prophets demand flawless fulfillment of predictions and alignment with prior revelation (Deuteronomy 18:20-22; 13:1-5). White's failed 1844 advent prediction, reframed post-disappointment, violates this standard. Moreover, Galatians 1:8 warns against supplemental gospels: "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed," positioning extra-biblical authorities as suspect.
Annihilationism (Eternal Punishment as Cessation)	Linked to soul immortality denial, SDA teaches that the wicked undergo finite punishment before annihilation, rejecting eternal conscious torment.	Matthew 25:46 equates destinies: "And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life," paralleling durations. Revelation 20:10 describes the devil, beast, and false prophet "tormented day and night forever and ever," extending to human participants per Isaiah 66:24's unquenchable fire and undying worms symbolizing perpetual suffering.

Net-net, Adventism is a Satanic non-Christian religion

Why do we classify Seventh-day Adventism (SDA) as a Satanic religion?

This is predicated on biblical criteria for discerning false prophecy and deception. Deuteronomy 18:20-22 mandates that prophets whose words fail are false, warranting rejection; 2 Corinthians 11:14 warns of Satan masquerading as an angel of light. The foundational role of Ellen G. White, alleged as a false prophetess, is central, supplemented by doctrinal and historical critiques. All claims are substantiated with references to primary sources and scholarly critiques.

Ellen G. White as False Prophetess: Failed Prophecies

Below is a tabulated selection of documented failed prophecies, drawn from her writings.

Failed Prophecy	Statement and Context	Why It Failed	Biblical Implication
1843/1844 Chart Inerrancy	"I have seen that the 1843 chart (Wm. Miller's) was directed by the hand of the Lord and that it should not be altered that the figures were as he wanted them." Early Writings, p. 64 (1882).	Jesus did not return in 1844 as the chart predicted, leading to the Great Disappointment; the chart's errors were exposed.	Deut. 18:22: Unfulfilled prophecy marks a false prophet, akin to Satanic misdirection (Jer. 23:16).
Day and Hour of Christ's Return	"...we heard the voice of God like many waters, WHICH GAVE US THE DAY AND HOUR OF JESUS' COMING." A Word to the Little Flock (1847), p. 14.	No specific time was recalled post-vision; Christ did not return, contradicting the claim of divine revelation.	Matt. 24:36: Only the Father knows the hour; false claims invite demonic imitation (Rev. 16:14).
Shut Door of Mercy in 1844	"I was shown in vision, and I still believe, that there was a shut door in 1844." Selected Messages 1, p. 63.	Salvation opportunities persisted beyond 1844; White later revised this view.	John 6:37: Christ's invitation remains open; closing it prematurely echoes antichrist deception (2 Thess. 2:11).
End of Time in 1851	"Now time is almost finished... what we have been 6 years in learning they will have to learn in months." Early Writings, p. 57 (1851).	The world continued far beyond 1851 without eschatological fulfillment.	2 Pet. 3:9: God's patience delays the end; rushed timelines suggest Satanic urgency to sow doubt.
Civil War Not Abolishing Slavery	"...they find that they have been deceived, that the object of this war is not to abolish slavery, but to preserve it." Early Writings, pp. 254, 258.	The Civil War culminated in the 13th Amendment abolishing slavery in 1865.	Prov. 12:20: False counsel leads to deceit; aligns with spirits of error (1 John 4:1).
England Declaring War on U.S.	"England is studying whether it is best to take advantage... and venture to make war on her... there will be general war." Early Writings, p. 259.	England remained neutral during the Civil War; no such global conflict ensued.	Jer. 14:14: Prophets speak visions from their own minds, not God—Satanic fabrication.
1856 Conference Attendees Translated	"Some food for worms, some subject to the last plagues, some will be alive... to be translated at the coming of Jesus." Early Writings, p. 131 (1856).	All attendees died naturally; none were translated alive.	1 Thess. 4:17: True rapture awaits; false promises mimic demonic lures (2 Tim. 3:13).

These instances, among dozens documented, establish White's prophetic record as unreliable, per critics, rendering her a false prophetess whose influence perpetuates Satanic error.

Additional Reasonings for Satanic Classification of the Seventh Day Adventist non-Christian religion

Critique	Description	Biblical Basis for Satanic Link
Doctrinal Deviations	Beliefs like investigative judgment, soul sleep, and Jesus as Michael contradict orthodoxy, fostering works-based salvation.	Gal. 1:6-9: Twisting grace invites anathema; false christs from Satan (Matt. 24:24).
Millerite Origins in False Prophecy	Founded post-1844 Great Disappointment, reinterpreting William Miller's failed prediction via White's visions.	Rev. 19:20: Deceivers punished; builds on lying wonders (2 Thess. 2:9).
Cult-Like Control and Deception	Critics cite authoritarian structure, fear-based eschatology, and suppression of dissent as manipulative.	2 Tim. 3:1-5: Lovers of self forming perverse groups; Satan's synagogue (Rev. 2:9).
Health and Dietary Legalism	Rigorous rules (e.g., vegetarianism) as salvific, despite failed visions, impose bondage.	Col. 2:16-23: Judging in food shadows Christ's substance; demonic doctrines (1 Tim. 4:1-3).

In summation, the SDA's reliance on a false prophetess and aberrant doctrines exemplifies Satanic counterfeiting

[vespa300]

Yeah, the world is marveling after Ellen white and she’s a city and etc etc etc.

Joker.