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Michigan church death toll doubles after search of building where Iraq war veteran Thomas Jacob Sanford 'planted 3 bombs' and opened fire
Daily Mail UK ^ | September 28, 2025 | Brittany Chain

Posted on 09/28/2025 6:13:20 PM PDT by Morgana

Four churchgoers have died, with at least eight more injured and others potentially unaccounted for after a gunman set fire to a Mormon church in Michigan and began shooting at congregants.

The shooter, who was killed by police at the scene, has been identified as 40-year-old Iraq War veteran Thomas Jacob Sanford.

Sanford opened fire on hundreds of people, including children, who had gathered for a service at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc about 10.25am on Sunday.

Police confirmed in an 8pm press conference that two of the victims died from gunshot wounds, while another two bodies were found in the burnt-out church after the flames were extinguished.

Authorities admitted there are an 'unknown number' of churchgoers who remain unaccounted for, and have asked families who are still missing loved ones to get in touch with them.

The church has not yet been entirely cleared, and first responders are still searching for bodies.

Sanford allegedly used 'an accelerant of some sort', believed to be gasoline, before he lit the church on fire. Authorities confirmed they had located explosive devices, but would not confirm whether they were used to start the blaze.

Reuben Coleman, the acting special agent in charge of the FBI Detroit field office, said the agency is now leading the investigation and considers it 'an act of targeted violence.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: banglist; bellcurve; charliekirk; churchbombing; ieds; jacobsanford; jakesanford; michigan; mountblanc; sanford; thomasjacobsanford; thomassanford; whiteonwhitviolence
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Pardon me, but what the hell?
1 posted on 09/28/2025 6:13:20 PM PDT by Morgana
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this guy has a bunch of posts about Charlie Kirk’s death.

Given that Kirk was killed dead in Mormon territory maybe in his messed up head he blamed Mormons. Utah Valley has a strong Mormon connection.

Yes, I know it is a stretch but what he did comes from a twisted brain.

This seems like a plausible motive.


2 posted on 09/28/2025 6:18:14 PM PDT by RummyChick (If I did not provide a link in my post none will be forthcoming )
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Tyler and his furry friend were both mormons.


3 posted on 09/28/2025 6:19:52 PM PDT by Morgana ( “Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women.” — Alice Paul 🇺🇸 )
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To: Morgana

Exactly. I wonder if he had a personal vendetta against that particular church and its leadership or if he knew someone there. It does not seem random.

He used the playbook of the other Michigan church attacker.


4 posted on 09/28/2025 6:20:23 PM PDT by madison10 (There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of ihilosophy.)
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To: Morgana

Exactly. I wonder if he had a personal vendetta against that particular church and its leadership or if he knew someone there. It does not seem random.

He used the playbook of the other Michigan church attacker.


5 posted on 09/28/2025 6:20:28 PM PDT by madison10 (There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of ihilosophy.)
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Sorry for the double. I only submitted the post once. 🙄


6 posted on 09/28/2025 6:21:31 PM PDT by madison10 (There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of ihilosophy.)
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To: Morgana

I think I have solved the case. FBI can thank me. LOLOL

https://nypost.com/2025/09/24/us-news/trans-boyfriend-of-charlie-kirk-suspect-tyler-robinson-was-kicked-out-of-familys-home-over-mormon-faith/

Charlie Kirk’s death is what drove this guy over the edge (plus whatever else going on in personal like sick kid and PTSD)


7 posted on 09/28/2025 6:23:26 PM PDT by RummyChick (If I did not provide a link in my post none will be forthcoming )
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To: RummyChick

Maybe retaliating against Mormons? Who knows? I am not sure I understand the sequence of events. Had he planted bombs previously, before the truck ramming and setting fire? What is the info about additional bomb threats later in the day, that I heard? There was a “press conference” on CNN, and the main news the person holding it had was to thank all of the LEOs and 1st responders, etc., which is noble... but she acted like that was the only reason for speaking to the press at that time.

I just feel like the quality of reporting on these types of events often ends up each media outlet just repeating what they heard elsewhere, maybe adding another point or 2 of speculation.


8 posted on 09/28/2025 6:24:36 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Morgana

Satan’s demons at work attacking Christians again. Satan and his evil crew are hard at work these days thinking they are winning. They are wrong and will be wrong forever soon enough.


9 posted on 09/28/2025 6:25:51 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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Majority of mormons are MAGA. These two fruit loops are the exception to the rule. I don’t get why this man would be upset at all mormons. I mean they have all that weird magical underwear and all but remember prop 8 in California? They fought against that with everything they had.


10 posted on 09/28/2025 6:26:54 PM PDT by Morgana ( “Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women.” — Alice Paul 🇺🇸 )
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To: NEMDF

I just feel like the quality of reporting on these types of events often ends up each media outlet just repeating what they heard elsewhere, maybe adding another point or 2 of speculation.


you mean like what happens at FR?


11 posted on 09/28/2025 6:28:08 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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No worries. It’s been happening a lot today.


12 posted on 09/28/2025 6:30:59 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Morgana

This definitely looks like the ultimate in “extreme”.

Makes it hard to imagine a motive. Whatever it is, his likely mental illness and drug use (prescription or otherwise) amplified things an order of magnitude.


13 posted on 09/28/2025 6:34:09 PM PDT by fruser1
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Dancing with stars has two mormon dancers this year with one who just gave birth in July

i dont know where the magic underwear is here but she did a pretty good job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3azqXF_oUk

two of the main stars of DWTS were raised Mormon. One is a Judge and one is an announcer


14 posted on 09/28/2025 6:36:00 PM PDT by RummyChick (If I did not provide a link in my post none will be forthcoming )
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To: Morgana

If he had PTSD, he shouldn’t have had access to firearms.


15 posted on 09/28/2025 6:37:24 PM PDT by rottndog (Posse Comitatus does not Trump the Constitution. )
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To: Morgana

Sounds like we don’t have a good handle on what motivated this killer. I’ll restrict myself to pointing out that we have a lot of military veterans with PTSD from all the foreign adventures the globalist elites keep using up our troops on. When you can fight with a clear conscience you don’t develop what ex-SEAL Ephraim Mattos calls “moral injury” (cf. his book City of Death) which contributes to these sorts of messed up, guilt-ridden heads. But many veterans have a conflicted sense of what they were doing and why in their overseas tours of duty. That needs to be stopped.


16 posted on 09/28/2025 6:40:09 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: PeterPrinciple

Yes, but at FR, mostly the info is presented as speculation. In MSM, it is presented as being truthful.


17 posted on 09/28/2025 6:41:07 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Morgana

No, they weren’t. They were raised to be but they strayed away from their roots and into the “do what feels good to me” self worshipping camp. Probably hadn’t been to a service in a very long time.


18 posted on 09/28/2025 6:42:33 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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40-year-old Iraq War veteran

They keep saying things like that for time a veteran is accused.

It means: "He must be a wild-eyed, drug and alcohol using right wing Trump fan who has PTSD like the ones on TV cop shows where he is barricaded at home in his trailer."

Which disrespects veterans.

Could say "a typical subscriber to Newsweek" or "has watched Jimmy Kimmel often."

19 posted on 09/28/2025 6:43:09 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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I just feel like the quality of reporting on these types of events often ends up each media outlet just repeating what they heard elsewhere, maybe adding another point or 2 of speculation.

Modern journalism today is basically scrolling Twitter feeds and reporting what is being posted over there.

20 posted on 09/28/2025 6:43:12 PM PDT by Drew68
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