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Ted Cruz and the Lunacy of Dispensationalism
Crisis Magazine ^ | June 27, 2025 | Kennedy Hall

Posted on 08/18/2025 6:00:57 PM PDT by DoodleBob

Did you see Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson’s heated interview that came out a week ago? If you didn’t, it was something else. In fairness to Cruz, I do believe Carlson was poking and prodding in ways that were a bit annoying, and I don’t fault Cruz for being irritated with Carlson at times. In addition, until Cruz embarrassed himself with two-bit Dispensationalist heresy, I don’t think he was being overly unreasonable, and I agreed with his sentiments in some cases.

Carlson and Cruz spoke largely about the Iran-Israel situation, which, as it stands, is in a state of flux. I won’t pretend to be an expert on it, and what may be the outcome could change at any moment. Due to the subject matter, they discussed the notion of whether a nation, in this case the United States, should be purely isolationist regarding global conflicts or whether there is room for joining in the conflicts involving other nations. Frankly, I personally agree with Cruz that pure isolationism may not be ideal and that there can be instances wherein allies do have each other’s backs. This is to say nothing about Israel per se, only that I agree with the concept.

In any event, Carlson’s poking and prodding was not senseless or just for dramatic effect, and eventually the interview reached a crescendo when Cruz exposed himself for his Dispensationalist views, which he said explicitly animate his insistence that the State of Israel must be protected at all costs. Without even being asked the question directly, Cruz insisted on telling Carlson why he vowed to be a staunch defender of Israel. He said, “Growing up in Sunday school, I was taught from the Bible, those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed; I want to be on the blessing side of things.”

This view is consistent with the Dispensationalism that has run amok in Evangelical circles and is held by millions—if not tens of millions—of Americans, as well as Protestants in other nations and probably even some Catholics. To briefly summarize, Dispensationalists, or “Dispies,” hold to various Fundamentalist views and adhere to strict biblical literalism, at least in some cases. And part of that view entails seeing the modern State of Israel as the Israel in the Bible. In essence, the modern State of Israel is the Israel that Cruz spoke of when he mentioned what is said in Genesis 12, and it amounts to something like a dual-covenant theology; there is one way to be saved for Jews and another for Gentiles. Consistent with this, we find in the Dispensationalist movement a desire to help ultra-Orthodox Jews rebuild the Temple so they can recommence the Old Testament sacrifices.

Now, if you are Catholic and even understand a small portion of the Faith, you will know that those sacrifices ceased and they prefigured the salvific sacrifice of Christ on the Cross, which is renewed—or re-presented—on the altars in our churches. The Old Testament Israelites were chosen by God to be the people from whence Christ would come, and Christ opened the gates of Heaven with His sacrifice so that all men can be saved. This is basic stuff and shouldn’t be controversial. Now, in fairness to the Dispies, it is true that when you peruse through the majority of the Church Fathers, and numerous great theologians who came after, you will find an insistence that Jews will be integral in the Second Coming of Christ—but not for the happy and fun reasons that so many Dispies think.

According to the majority view of Fathers and others, the Antichrist will be ethnically Jewish in some way, and he will convince the world he is the Messiah. And, he will somehow enthrone himself in the Temple—which will have to be rebuilt before he does that—and recommence the Old Testament sacrifices. This will all take place along with the Great Apostasy, during which most Christians will likely have renounced their faith and been caught up in the international zeitgeist that views the Antichrist as the real Christ. This will not be a fun time, but most Dispies believe there will be a “Premillennial” period where it is believed that Christ will return before a literal 1,000-year reign on earth where He will establish a physical kingdom on earth. Along with this, there is the Rapture, which is held by many Dispensationalists who believe the righteous will be taken away from the Earth before things get really bad.

Now, some adherents believe that the Rapture will happen before the Tribulation, and some believe it will be in the middle of it, and some believe it will be after. In addition, they believe there will be a restored Israel like the Israel in the Bible, and this is where Cruz’s insistence on supporting Israel comes into play.

Ultimately, those who hold these views believe it is a matter of salvation, or at least biblical history, that the nation of Israel itself should be restored to its Old Testament glory and that this is a good thing that God has foretold in the Bible. Unfortunately, this belief is held by so many influential politicians, like Cruz, and it animates their foreign policy when it comes to Israel. They literally believe that by supporting the modern State of Israel they are doing God’s will and will be rewarded through it—either by being raptured before things get bad or in some other temporal way.

Dispensationalism is insane, and it is heretical, and no one should take it seriously because it is a modern, novel belief that does not correspond to historical biblical exegesis in Catholicism or historical, mainline Protestantism. Nevertheless, those who, for some other reason, adore the modern State of Israel are more than happy to promote and tolerate this heresy because it is good for business.

What is so tragically ironic about the whole thing is that, in a sense, Dispensationalists may be a part of the events that bring about the Second Coming, but they are tools of the devil who will help pave the way for the Antichrist.


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KEYWORDS: cuckertarlson; dispensationalism; isolationismisinsane; israel; jewbashingislunacy; lookwhohatesjews; tedcruz; texas
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Was Israel attacked by Hamas and is she entitled to defend herself? Absolutely.

Is Israel under assault by college students, the MSM, Hollywood, and other losers? You bet.

Is Israel a cesspool like Russia and Ukraine? I’ve never been there, but those who have been to Israel would say No.

Is Israel an ally of the US? As much as any country…which means sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Foreign aid is welfare with a better PR machine behind it. That includes the billions sent to Afghanistan, Ethiopia, Ukraine, and Israel.

The corollary is that anyone who believes strongly that Israel needs to be defended, is free to buy a ticket Tel Aviv and pick up a gun. Expedia has some great deals.

Pray for Israel. Of course. But supporters for Israel shouldn’t border on becoming neocon warmongers on The Bulwark.

Thank for listening.

1 posted on 08/18/2025 6:00:57 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob
those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed

Well, it DOES say that.....what's the problem?

2 posted on 08/18/2025 6:08:02 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: DoodleBob

Genesis 12:1-3 Now the Lord said[a] to Abram, “Go from your country[b] and your kindred and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. 2 And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”[c]

If that isn’t clear enough, I don’t know what is.


3 posted on 08/18/2025 6:10:09 PM PDT by skr (1 Peter 1:15 - But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed
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Well, it DOES say that.....what's the problem?

Really? Where?

4 posted on 08/18/2025 6:11:39 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: skr
3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

God says he will bless Abraham. He doesn't say he will bless the modern nation-state of Israel. Abraham and the nation-state of Israel are NOT synonymous.

5 posted on 08/18/2025 6:14:20 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

The problem is that Israel is ultimately comprised of the Church as the Body of Christ, Whose reign transcends national bounds of all sorts. The Nation called Israel today is worthy to hold its own and have allies, but not under the pretense of biblical support any greater than another nation.


6 posted on 08/18/2025 6:14:21 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Are you now, or have you ever been, a Democrat?)
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To: DoodleBob

Well said Sir...


7 posted on 08/18/2025 6:14:35 PM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: Fester Chugabrew
The problem is that Israel is ultimately comprised of the Church as the Body of Christ, Whose reign transcends national bounds of all sorts. The Nation called Israel today is worthy to hold its own and have allies, but not under the pretense of biblical support any greater than another nation.

Exactly. We can and should support modern Israel as a valuable ally, but it is not a biblical mandate.

8 posted on 08/18/2025 6:18:17 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: DoodleBob

It is pointless to seriously argue about interpretations of a dream/vision that John described in Revelation. No mortal really knows.

However it is indeed an interesting topic. Thanks for posting!


9 posted on 08/18/2025 6:20:54 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: fidelis; Merman; Mark17; boatbums

AN OPEN LETTER TO @TuckerCarlson ON WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT #ISRAEL

roncantor.com/post/an-open-l…

Tucker Carlson recently interviewed @tedcruz, and by all accounts, it was a train wreck. Tucker was quite aggressive and did not let Cruz answer. It did not appear that Cruz was adequately prepared, misquoting verses and not knowing the references. I thought it would be good to address the one issue that is something I can speak into, and that is Tucker’s confusion over whether rebirthed Israel is the Israel that the Bible speaks of.

Dear Tucker,

It was excruciating, watching the short clip of you asking Ted Cruz about Israel. You told him, “I’m a Christian. I want to know what you’re talking about.” And, I agree with you; it is unfortunate Senator Cruz was unprepared to answer your questions. If I’m honest, I’m not sure if you wanted answers or a gotcha moment. Only you know your own heart.

Let’s start with Genesis 12:3, which Senator Cruz sought to quote. It does not say we are to bless the “nation of Israel”—Israel was not the name at that time. The passage refers to Abraham and his physical seed, which became the nation of Israel.

You see, Abraham had two nations: one physical (Israel) and the other spiritual (believers in Jesus). The Genesis 12:2-3 prophecy shows the difference between the two.

1. In v. 2 he tells Abraham that he’s going to make him into a great nation, singular. It’s that group of people about whom God says in the next verse, “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.”

2. It’s only after that that God says, “In you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.” The primary way that Abraham has been a blessing to all the nations of the earth is through bringing the Messiah, Jesus, into the world.

But your question was, “Is the modern nation of Israel Biblical Israel?” I think this is a great question. Sadly, most evangelicals have simply blessed Israel because they were told, like Senator Cruz, that it was the right thing to do. But theologically, they can’t make the case. Let me try.

You asked Senator Cruz, “So [the modern nation of Israel] is what God is talking about in Genesis?” Yes. If you continue to read through Genesis, he also promises to this group of people, the Jewish people—Abraham’s children through Isaac and Jacob—what we now know as the land of Israel. God tells Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob at different times that this is an “everlasting covenant” that was “the oath I swore,” and regarding “the land … I will give to you and to your offspring” (Gen 17:7-8, 26:3-4, 48:4).

IS MODERN ISRAEL BIBLICAL ISRAEL?

There are dozens of prophecies in the Hebrew Bible that speak of the restoration of Israel as a nation: “I will take you (Israel) from the nations and gather you from all the countries and bring you into your own land” (Ezek 36:24). It says it would happen in the End Times (Amos 9:14–15, Ezek 37:21–22). Jeremiah tells of a mass exodus of Jewish people from “the land of the north” (Jer 16:14-15); Over 1,000,000 Jews returned to Israel from the former Soviet Union between 1991 and 2000, directly north of Israel.

So, what you have to ask yourself is, have these prophecies been fulfilled in the modern nation of Israel? Ethnic Jews, proven by DNA, have gone back to their homeland after 2000 years, fulfilling prophecies that were given roughly 2,500 years ago through virtually every Hebrew prophet 1. So let me just appeal to your common sense. What are the chances of this happening? Considering that Israel was conquered over and over again (Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, and Romans), it’s a miracle that the Jewish people have any representation left on the planet.

When you consider that there is no example in world history of a nation being separated from its geographical homeland for more than two or three generations and maintaining its ethnic identity—except for the Jewish people—you have to believe that God’s hand is behind it. (Have you run into any Jebusites, Amalekites, or Hitites recently?)

If the prophets were not speaking about present-day Israel, then she is one of the most remarkable coincidences in history.

Secondly, if not Jews, to whom, then, are the prophets referring? Did the Church come out of the land of the north? No. Was the Church regathered from all over the world back into the land of Israel? No. But the Jewish people were. Even if one spiritualizes those verses to the Church, one cannot deny that the physical descendants of Abraham returned to the land promised to Abraham and his descendants forever, and built a prosperous nation. One would have to be intellectually dishonest not to see the connection between the prophecies and the fact that there is a nation of Israel today filled with Jewish people on the covenantal land. It’s a miracle.

THE NEW TESTAMENT SPEAKS OF ISRAEL’S POSITIVE FUTURE

In Romans 11, Paul clearly states that ethnic Israel has a future. He says they have been temporarily blinded so that the gospel can prosper amongst the nations (Romans 11:25). But in the End Times, the hardness of heart will be removed and “all Israel will be saved” (Rom 11:26). He explains three verses later that the the call of God on the nation of Israel is irrevocable (v. 29). He is emphatically stating that God’s calling on Israel will never be anulled or invalidated. This is because of God’s faithfulness, not Israel’s righteousness. God has preserved Israel for his own glory and purposes.

DOES THAT MEAN I HAVE TO HONOR POLITICIANS?

You don’t honor the politicians, you honor the God of Israel. Despite Israel, God has been faithful. See Jeremiah 31:35-37, where God says specifically that he will not reject Israel for all she has done, and as long as the stars, moon, and sun continue to operate, he will be faithful to the Jewish nation. Disqualifying Israel due to bad behavior involves flawed reasoning. If God were going to disqualify people based on bad behavior, then much of the Church would be in very big trouble. But God is gracious.

YOUR SAVIOR IS A JEW

Jesus is still Jewish. After his resurrection, he is referred to as the “seed of David” (Rom 1:3), and in Revelation 5:5 as the “Lion of the tribe of Judah” and the “Root of David.” According to Zechariah 14:3-4, he will return to the Mount of Olives (in Israel!). That’s where he left from, and the angel said he would return in the same way (Acts 1:9-11). Revelation 1:7 says that when he comes, every eye will see him, even those who pierced him… which is very similar to Zechariah 12:10, a passage that speaks of the Jewish people realizing that the one they pierced is the Messiah.

THE BIBI PROBLEM

The problem many people have is that they look at someone like Netanyahu and see him as an unsavory character (and others see him as an honorable leader), and think, “How can that be biblical Israel?” Biblical Israel had people far worse than Netanyahu as leaders, such as Ahab and Jezebel, and Manasseh, who “did evil in the eyes of the LORD.” And those leaders will give an account to the Almighty. However, according to Paul, that did not disqualify the entire nation (Rom 11:29). There are unsavory politicians worldwide. In America. In Israel. Certainly in Russia. Loving Israel is about believing and contending for her salvation, recognizing that Israel was blinded so the gospel could come to you, Tucker— the Gentiles. Israel suffered so the nations could be saved.

I am an Israeli, and I criticize my own government. I don’t give them a free pass because we are a modern fulfillment of prophecy. Unlike in Iran or your beloved Russia, we can criticize our government with no fear of being put in jail or murdered. When Israel was chosen in the Old Testament, God would judge her when she erred. Israel is still chosen today, but when we are disobedient, there are consequences.

THE JEWISH PEOPLE WILL EMBRACE YESHUA

In Matthew 23:39, Jesus tells the Jews of Jerusalem that he will not return until they welcome him as Messiah. How can they do that if there are no Jews in Jerusalem or if there’s no Jerusalem? It is believed that the biblical Joseph, who was rejected by his brothers and became the most powerful man in the world, was a prophetic type (example) pointing to Jesus. After many years, Joseph revealed himself to his brothers, and they were reunited, but only after he was a blessing to the world. In the same way, Jesus’s Jewish brothers rejected him, and he has been a blessing to the nations. But in the End Times, he will remove the blindness and reveal himself, and they will be reunited—it’s already happening. I am a Jewish believer in Jesus, and so is my wife.

YOU’RE SMARTER THAN THAT

If you’re going to be intellectually honest, there’s no explanation for the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 other than biblical prophecy. The existence of Jewish people today is a miracle based on science. As stated above, there’s no other example of people being separated from their geographical homeland and remaining a people. The fact that we are on a tiny sliver of land outnumbered more than 99 to 1 by those who would be our enemies, and we have been able to win every war and prosper as a nation, is a miracle. The Six-Day War was a miracle, where we were vastly outnumbered, but defeated three nations in six days.

There is no question that grace is upon this nation. The Jewish people make up about 1/3 of one percent of the world’s population and yet we have won 15 percent of Nobel Peace prizes. That has nothing to do with racial superiority, but God’s blessing on the Jewish people, despite our unbelief and disobedience (Rom 3:1-4). Roughly 70% of our drinking water comes from the Mediterranean Sea, as we learned how to take the salt out. Instant messaging was created here. We export roses to Europe that are grown in the desert, fulfilling Isaiah 35:1, “The desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.”

WHY SHOULD A BELIEVER BLESS ISRAEL?

Now that we have established that modern Israel is biblical Israel, and a fulfillment of prophecy, you might want to know why you should support her. It is a valid question. Here are nine reasons you should stand with Israel:

1. Without the Jewish people, we have no Bible. A Jew wrote every book of the New Testament (I believe Luke was Jewish).

2. God used Israel to bring the Messiah into the world. “This is the genealogy of Yeshua the Messiah (Jesus the Christ), son of David, son of Abraham.” (Matt. 1:1). Matthew feels it is significant that his readers understand that Jesus came into the world through the Jewish people.

3. According to Paul, God purposely blinded Israel to the truth so that the gospel would go to the Gentiles. Mass Jewish salvation, according to many theologians, would’ve triggered the Second Coming 2. So God puts a pause on Jewish salvation for 2000 years, while the gospel makes its way around the world. Only now are we seeing more and more Jewish people come to faith in Jesus. Romans 11:11-12 says, “Again I ask: Did [Israel] stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? No may it never be! Rather, because of [Israel’s] transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring!”

4. The Jewish apostles took the message of salvation to the nations. (Acts 1:8) Paul, a Jewish rabbi, planted New Testament communities all over Europe and Asia.

5. Paul tells the Romans (Rom 15:25-27) that they have a debt to Israel because Israel brought them Jesus.

“Now, however, I am on my way to Jerusalem in the service of the Lord’s people there. For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a contribution for the poor among the Lord’s people in Jerusalem. They were pleased to do it, and indeed, they owe it to them. For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.”

Paul clearly has an expectation that Gentile followers of Jesus will bless the Jewish people. He’s referring specifically in this passage to an offering that he was taking back to Israel because of a famine.

6. Jesus is coming back to modern-day Israel. Zechariah says that he returns to the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem (Zech 14:4). The Jewish people weep and recognize him as Messiah (Zech 12:10). Isaiah says, and Paul repeats it, “the redeemer will come to Zion.” If Zionism is a dirty word, throw out your Bible. Jesus is a Zionist!

7. The Jewish people were a womb of prayer that brought Jesus into the world—people like Simeon and Anna (See Luke 2:25-38). These two were prototypes mentioned in the Bible and represent tens of thousands of Jewish people like them who were praying for the Messiah to come. God is looking to the Church to be a womb of prayer that will intercede for Israel’s salvation—that they will recognize Jesus as their Messiah.

You see, where some white supremacists (and sadly some Church Fathers) look at Jewish rejection of Jesus as a reason to hate the Jewish people, God tells us that that is a reason to love them (see Romans 11:11). Romans 11:22 talks about the Gentiles being kind towards Israel or they will have a problem with God. He says that if the Gentiles judge Israel harshly, they will suffer the same fate—they will be separated from God’s household, “Otherwise you too will be cut off.”

8. The Bible tells believers to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, “May they prosper who love you [Jerusalem]” (Psalm 122:6). He calls Gentile believers to be watchmen on her walls (Is. 62:6-7). He tells these watchmen to do this until Jerusalem is the praise of all the earth. In other words, Israel’s imperfections should cause us to pray more, not to reject her.

9. God will curse those who curse Abraham and his seed. He will bless those who bless her. This is the verse that Ted Cruz could not find (Gen 12:3), and where we started. Great Britain was once the best friend of the Jewish people before statehood. At that time, they used to say the sun never sets on the British Empire. However, in the 1920s, Britain began to turn against the Jewish people, and the sun began to set on the UK. The United States took her place and became the first nation to recognize the modern state of Israel in 1948. The United States became the strongest nation in the world. Ironically, she is the only nation considering helping Israel against Iran.

In other words, Tucker, you would not be a Christian today and may be sacrificing your children to false gods, except for the contribution of the Jewish people.

I hope this helps you see why the Bible clearly and explicitly commands Christians to bless Israel and the Jewish people. For most of Church history, the Jewish people have suffered intense persecution from the Church. When Hitler was looking for a proof text to hate Jews, he didn’t even have to go out of the country. He celebrated the writings of the German Martin Luther, who became an antisemite towards the end of his life.

Jewish people have been murdered by Christians for being Jewish. It’s all throughout Church history. In the Crusades. The inquisitions. During the Black Plague, entire Jewish communities were blamed and murdered. Some Jews were falsely accused of stealing communion wafers in order to torture them (believing absurdly that they could torture Jesus afresh), and were killed. And now Iran is trying to get a nuclear bomb to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. Just like Haman (from the book of Esther), the Persian Prime Minister failed in his efforts in antiquity to murder the Jewish people, the Persian Ayatollah Khomeini is failing. The question is, Tucker, why are you so hostile to the Jewish people?

I pray that you will look up all of those passages and give them deep consideration. Thank you.

—Dr. Ron Cantor
One more point on “Jesus is a Zionist!” God mocks the End Time nations when they get angry because of this: “I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.” (Psalm 2:6—in fact, just read all of Psalm 2!)
@TuckerCarlson @tedcruz W. S. Campbell put it best: “It would be naive to suggest that it is merely an accident of history that the historical people of God, the Jewish race, should continue to exist alongside Christianity.” God has preserved Israel for His end-time purpose.
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10 posted on 08/18/2025 6:21:56 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ LIFE )
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed

Well, it DOES say that.....what's the problem?

No. It does NOT say that.

Genesis 12:3

I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”

You see? No mention of "Israel."

And regarding what it DOES say, different religions and denominations have different interpretations.

Most Christian denominations throughout history have interpreted that line as a reference to Christ, through Whom all nations will be blessed.

11 posted on 08/18/2025 6:22:16 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: DoodleBob

The author of this article is a flaming idiot.


12 posted on 08/18/2025 6:22:56 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The Democrat breadlines will be gluten-free. )
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To: fidelis
We can and should support modern Israel as a valuable ally

That should remain open to debate.

13 posted on 08/18/2025 6:23:49 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: DoodleBob

I’m’ not a dispensationalist, but this article is very, very misleading on an important point.

While dispensationalists insist/predict that sacrifices will happen again in the rebuilt temple, NO dispensationalist would EVER argue that these sacrifices are atoning. To do so would make them explicitly a non-Christian.

The author then jumps to the harsh rhetorical point that dispensationalists are “heretical.”

This is unfair, inflammatory and simply false.

They do have a modern (speaking in terms of time) theology, and it has some features which are not fully Biblical and are sort of novel and flow from particular reading of particular scriptures.

But they aren’t heretics.

(I also think that the US should pursue a US first foreign policy....we don’t have allies, not even Israel...we have relationships that sometimes we can collaborate with, when our interests are aligned....).


14 posted on 08/18/2025 6:29:43 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: DoodleBob

Ping


15 posted on 08/18/2025 6:31:02 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Angelino97
That should remain open to debate.

As should all geopolitical questions. The world is constantly changing and someone who might be our ally now, might not be in the future, and vice-versa.

16 posted on 08/18/2025 6:33:35 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: ConservativeDude
While dispensationalists insist/predict that sacrifices will happen again in the rebuilt temple, NO dispensationalist would EVER argue that these sacrifices are atoning. To do so would make them explicitly a non-Christian.

This has always puzzled me. Why should new sacrifices be offered if they don't do anything? Jesus' sacrifice was once for all and is sufficient to atone for all the sins of the world. Any other sacrifices would amount to empty ritual.

17 posted on 08/18/2025 6:37:20 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: DoodleBob
What happened to Tucker Carlson after the Ted Cruz interview was quite interesting. Within weeks a fair number of US pastors from Dispensationalist churches attacked Carlson from the pulpit, calling him antisemitic.

It turns out that some Israeli Jewish/Christian friendship organization was offering to donate thousands to any church in their network who attacked Carlson this way in front of their congregation.

Makes you wonder what else these folks are paid to say, and whose in the shadows whispering in their ear?

18 posted on 08/18/2025 6:39:25 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.; Attention Surplus Disorder; Angelino97; fidelis; Jan_Sobieski; ...

Here’s the problem.

Let’s say the govt of Iran announces: “we have stashed a nuke somewhere in America, and somewhere in Israel. We are opening a live poll on our YouTube channel to see which nuke we should detonate first.”

How do you think Ted Cruz and other American Dispensationalists would vote?

The fact that we have UNCERTAINTY about the answer to that question is the problem.


19 posted on 08/18/2025 6:39:39 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
The author of this article is a flaming idiot.

Well, I guess you showed him.

20 posted on 08/18/2025 6:40:08 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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