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What was the Great Disappointment? {Seventh Day Adventism}
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Posted on 07/25/2025 2:09:15 PM PDT by Cronos

The Great Disappointment describes an episode in Seventh-day Adventist history when followers of William Miller (1782—1849) became bitterly disillusioned after his 1843 and subsequent 1844 predictions for the second coming of Christ failed to come to pass.

William Miller was a farmer and army captain who served in the War of 1812. In 1816, Miller converted from Deism to Christianity and began to study the Scriptures. Eventually, in 1833, he became a licensed Baptist minister.

After fourteen years of Bible study focused mainly on the books of Daniel and Revelation, Miller believed that he had uncovered the key to Daniel’s prophecies. In 1831, Miller predicted that the second coming of Jesus Christ would take place within a year of March 21, 1843. Miller’s ideas were published in 1836 in a book titled Evidence from Scripture and History of the Second Coming of Christ, about the Year 1843.

Over time, Miller’s preaching about the return (or second advent) of Christ attracted widespread interest among Baptists, Methodists, and Presbyterians in America. These followers, labeled Millerites by critics, numbered in the hundreds of thousands as the predicted date drew near. Some of these Americans quit their jobs and gave away their possessions, utterly convinced that Christ’s return was imminent and sure.

When the anticipated time came and went without event, Miller recalculated a more specific date for Christ’s return and settled on October 22, 1844. When that date also passed without the Lord’s return, most of Miller’s followers abandoned the movement, and Miller himself retired into relative obscurity and died a few years later. Those who had embraced Miller’s adventist preaching experienced great grief and sorrow—they had truly believed that they would be transported to heaven in 1844, but it didn’t happen. Their lives went on as before. The event became known as “the Great Disappointment.” Those who stayed in the movement called themselves the “remnant” and formed the foundations of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and Advent Christian Church.

Later Adventists attempted to save face concerning the Great Disappointment by reinterpreting the prophecies upon which Miller had determined his dates. Rather than being the time of Jesus’ return to earth, they said, October 1844 was the start of Jesus’ final atoning work. According to the remnant, it was when Jesus entered the Most Holy Place in the heavenly sanctuary to begin judging who would be saved—His final action before His second coming.

Miller was not the first or last misguided preacher to forecast the end of the age, but he may have been the most persuasive and notorious in recent Christian history. The Great Disappointment could have been avoided if only Miller and his followers had grasped a crucial biblical truth. Yes, followers of Jesus Christ are called to live in confident expectation of the Lord’s return at any moment (Titus 2:13). And Revelation 22, the last chapter in the Bible, reassures us that Jesus Christ is coming soon. Miller was right on that essential. But for all his study of Scripture, Miller missed a vital truth. Our expectation of Christ’s second coming is to be tempered with this fact that Jesus made very clear: “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Matthew 24:36). God has specifically chosen not to reveal the day or time of Christ’s return.


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The Investigative Judgment contradicts Scripture’s clear teaching on Christ’s completed atonement and judgment:

The Seventh day Adventist doctrine is unbiblical as it is denying Christ’s completed redemption

1 posted on 07/25/2025 2:09:15 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
The history of the creation of the Investigative Judgment doctrine, is as follows: 1844 Great Disappointment: White’s doctrine emerged after William Miller’s failed prediction of Christ’s return on October 22, 1844. To salvage this flop, Hiram Edson claimed a vision of Christ entering the heavenly sanctuary, which White later adopted (*Early Writings*, p. 54-56). This was a post-hoc invention, not divine revelation, born of human error.

Needless to say this belief didn't exist before 1844.

No early Church Father (e.g., Augustine, Chrysostom) or Reformation theologian (e.g., Luther, Calvin) taught a 1844 investigative judgment. The concept is absent from Christian tradition until Adventism’s 19th-century desperation, contrasting with the Church’s consistent view of Christ’s immediate intercession (Hebrews 7:25)

2 posted on 07/25/2025 2:12:42 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
The linguistic basis for the Investigative Judgment collapses under scrutiny:

In addition Investigative Judgment’s logic is riddled with contradictions and absurdities:


3 posted on 07/25/2025 2:16:41 PM PDT by Cronos
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Adventists hold that Daniel 8:14 is “a contextual island,” having nothing to do with the preceding verses. But do you get that impression when you read Daniel 8:9-14 in the accompanying box entitled “Daniel 8:14 in Context”? Verse 9 identifies an aggressor, a small horn. Verses 10-12 reveal that this aggressor will attack the sanctuary. Verse 13 asks, ‘How long will this aggression continue?’ And verse 14 answers: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings and mornings; and the holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.” Clearly, verse 13 raises a question that is answered in verse 14. Theologian Desmond Ford says: “To detach Dan. 8:14 from this cry [“How long?” verse 13] is to be exegetically at sea without an anchor.”

Why do Adventists detach verse 14 from the context? To avoid an awkward conclusion. The context ascribes the defilement of the sanctuary, mentioned in verse 14, to the activities of the little horn. However, the “investigative judgment” doctrine attributes the defilement of the sanctuary to the activities of Christ. He is said to transfer the sins of believers to the heavenly sanctuary. So, what happens if Adventists accept both the doctrine and the context? Dr. Raymond F. Cottrell, a Seventh-Day Adventist and former associate editor of the SDA Bible Commentary, writes: “To pretend to ourselves that the SDA interpretation reads Daniel 8:14 in context then would thus be to identify the little horn as Christ.”


4 posted on 07/25/2025 2:21:50 PM PDT by Cronos
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Lie #1 The Seventh day Adventist doctrine is unbiblical as it is denying Christ’s completed redemption
The SDAs have never denied Christs completed redemption. His sacrifice was complete.

The SDAs have never whitewashed The Great Disappointment nor sugarcoated it. Unlike some denomination(s) who martyred tens of thousands (if not millions) of people who had a different creed or belief. Not all want to kneel and kiss the ring finger of a Pope, worship Mary, buy an indulgence, buy/wear a scapular and house homosexual predators and protect them from the law by re-location schemes.

5 posted on 07/25/2025 2:22:24 PM PDT by BipolarBob (There's a bike in town that keeps running me over! It's a vicious cycle.)
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To: Cronos
What was the Great Disappointment?

A synonym for false prophecy.

6 posted on 07/25/2025 2:32:06 PM PDT by fso301
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Bipolar Bob, your Adventist assertion that Seventh-day Adventists “have never denied Christ’s completed redemption” and that “His sacrifice was complete” is a bold claim, but it crumbles under scrutiny when weighed against your sect’s core doctrine. your “complete redemption” claim collapses—SDA’s Investigative Judgment denies Christ’s finished work (Hebrews 9:12), a White lie from 1844. Adventism’s evils—false prophecies, heretical judgment, Sabbath idolatry, and anti-Catholic venom—mark it as satanic. Produce one verse supporting a 1844 judgment. You can’t. Repent, ditch White’s trash, and flee to Christ’s Church (Ephesians 2:8-9). Face truth, not delusion
7 posted on 07/25/2025 2:51:01 PM PDT by Cronos
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The various Satanic teachings of Adventism all tie back to the fact that it was founded by a false prophetess Ellen G White who had numerous failed prophecies.

SDAs revere White’s visions as divinely inspired (SDA Belief #18), guiding doctrine like the Investigative Judgment and Sabbath.

Deuteronomy 18:22 demands true prophets’ predictions come true—White’s 1856, 1844, and 1845 failures (*Testimonies for the Church*, Vol. 1, p. 131-132; *A Word to the Little Flock*, p. 14) prove her false.

Her writings (*The Great Controversy*) lack prophetic Hebrew/Greek grounding, relying on 19th-century English, often plagiarized (*The White Lie* by Walter Rea)


8 posted on 07/25/2025 2:57:31 PM PDT by Cronos
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As much as I dislike responding to you, I will.
Produce one verse supporting a 1844 judgment.
I don't have to. It is irrelevant. One can believe that to be true or not and it should make NO difference to their salvation (which should be the MOST IMPORTANT thing to have.)

You hate Ellen White with a vengeance and feel compelled to post this article to stir up trouble. I don't wish to participate. As far as the other poster that this was a false prophesy, I say no it's not because the prophesy is in the Bible. The Bible is not in error. Now the first interpretation by the Millerites was in error. Shame on them. But humans make mistakes. Even Moses struck a rock he should have spoken to. There is no comparison between this error and the grievances that could be brought against the RCC.
I'll finish that you Cronos should repent and leave the denomination you worship. Turn to God. Read the Bible and quit straining at gnats but swallowing camels.

9 posted on 07/25/2025 3:08:53 PM PDT by BipolarBob (There's a bike in town that keeps running me over! It's a vicious cycle.)
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——>Adventism’s evils—false prophecies, heretical judgment, Sabbath idolatry, and anti-Catholic venom—mark it as satanic.

Sabbath idolatry....Bahahahahahahahahahaha!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Jesuits like to accuse the SDA church of all that, but Jesuits are born liars, every one of them, beginning with the very first that concocted Preterism and Futurism. Unfortunately for your church, it meets every biblical test of the Little Horn/Antichrist power, which would think to change times and laws of God, boast, etc... BY THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH. No mortal can change the law of God, forgive, or not forgive sins, and command Almighty God to honor that decision. Blasphemy of the highest order.

Exactly Which Pope
Changed The Sabbath To Sunday?
https://www.biblelightinfo.com/sylvester-I.htm

Archbishop of Reggio’s Sermon
to the Council of Trent on the Power of the Church:
By Our Authority The Sabbath Was Changed To Sunday!
https://www.biblelightinfo.com/bssb-1443-1444.htm

The Sabbath, the most glorious day in the law, has been changed into the Lord’s day...These and other similar matters have not ceased by virtue of Christ’s teaching (for He says He has come to fulfill the law, not to destroy it), but they have been changed by the authority of the church.

The authority of the church could therefore not be bound to the authority of the Scriptures, because the church had changed circumcision into baptism, Sabbath into Sunday, not by the command of Christ, but by its own authority.

Therefore in conformity with the resolution, when the eighteenth day was come, a procession was made of the whole clergy of the city of the divines and prelates, who besides the cardinals were one hundred and twelve that wore the mitre, accompanied by their families and guarded by many of the country people armed, going from St. Peter’s Church to the Cathedral; where the Cardinal of Mantoua sang the Mass of the Holy Ghost and Gasparo dal Fosso, Archbishop of Reggio, made the sermon: His subject was the authority of the Church, the primacy of the Pope, and the power of Councils: he said that the Church had as much authority as the word of God and that the Church had changed the sabbath ordained by God into Sunday, taking away the Circumcision formerly commanded by the divine Majesty, and that the precepts are changed, not by the preaching of Christ, but by the authority of the Church. Turning himself unto the fathers, he exhorted them to labour constantly against the Protestants, being assured, that, as the Holy Ghost could not err, so neither could they be deceived.

“He said that the Church had as much authority as the word of God and that the Church had changed the sabbath ordained by God into Sunday, taking away the Circumcision formerly commanded by the divine Majesty, and that the precepts are changed, not by the preaching of Christ, but by the authority of the Church.”

Whence it must be concluded, little room as there was for such reasoning, not that the Church is equal to the Word of God, BUT THAT IT IS MUCH SUPERIOR.

THE COUNCIL OF TRENT!
THE COUNCIL OF TRENT!
THE COUNCIL OF TRENT!


10 posted on 07/25/2025 3:14:30 PM PDT by Philsworld (.)
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To: BipolarBob

Evangelical Condemnation of the Investigative Judgment


11 posted on 07/25/2025 3:16:08 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

What does the Bible say about the timing of the Second Coming?

https://prophecyquestions.com/?s=Timing


12 posted on 07/25/2025 3:16:11 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: Philsworld

Protestant Condemnation of the Investigative Judgment


13 posted on 07/25/2025 3:19:42 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Philsworld
Phil, your Adventist frenzy, shrieking about Pope Sylvester I and the Council of Trent changing the Sabbath to Sunday with links to https://www.biblelightinfo.com/sylvester-I.htm and https://www.biblelightinfo.com/bssb-1443-1444.htm, is a laughable rehash of Ellen G. White’s venom.

Detailed Refutation

Adventism’s Satanic Evils

ErrorDetailsRefutation
False PropheciesWhite’s 1856, 1844, 1845 flops.Deuteronomy 18:22
Investigative JudgmentDenies atonement (*The Great Controversy*, p. 421-422).Hebrews 9:12

Phil, your Investigative Judgment is condemned by Protestants like Talbot, van Baalen, Lindsell, and Gerstner as unbiblical, aligning with Scripture (Hebrews 9:12). Adventism’s evils—White’s lies, judgment heresy, and venom—mark it as satanic. Produce one verse for a 1844 judgment. You can’t. Repent, ditch White’s trash,

14 posted on 07/25/2025 3:26:03 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Cronos,

This Protestant enjoys your defense of the Catholic Church and Catholic Doctrine.

“Carry On.”

Thanks.


15 posted on 07/25/2025 3:27:34 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. )
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Thanks. Well, quite frankly, Protestants also disagree with these and the other non Christian beliefs of Adventism (like their belief that Jesus is the angel Michael, or that Satan takes on the sins of the world)


16 posted on 07/25/2025 3:39:02 PM PDT by Cronos
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Even Moses struck a rock he should have spoken to

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Yup

Twice even.


17 posted on 07/25/2025 3:39:43 PM PDT by cuz1961
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To: Cronos

Fool me once, call me a Millerite.

Fool me twice, call me an Adventist.


18 posted on 07/25/2025 3:43:58 PM PDT by ebb tide (The Synodal "church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: ebb tide

Thanks, that made me chuckle.


19 posted on 07/25/2025 4:08:14 PM PDT by BipolarBob (There's a bike in town that keeps running me over! It's a vicious cycle.)
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To: Cronos

*Great* discussion, all y’all! I’m not *disappointed*. 😃

For what it’s worth, I consider neither the Seventh Day Adventists nor the Roman Catholics to be total heretics. 😜

(But seriously, both tribes have labored mightily to bring in the Kingdom of Christ and I am thankful for each. ❤️✝️)


20 posted on 07/25/2025 4:18:46 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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