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| July 14, 2025
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Posted on 07/15/2025 6:04:29 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Jim W N
Therefore, saying "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord" does not change scripture or twist meaning but has the same meaning as "to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord" (2 Cor. 5:8).
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07/16/2025 7:00:15 PM PDT
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Jim W N
(MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
To: boatbums; fidelis
Therefore, saying "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord" does not change scripture or twist meaning but has the same meaning as "to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord" (2 Cor. 5:8).
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07/16/2025 7:02:46 PM PDT
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Jim W N
(MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
To: boatbums; Jim W N
Thought you were done with me, Jim W N? Can't let it lie, neither of you. :)
My position is unchanged. By Paul saying he would rather be in heaven, does not state or imply that "to be out of the body is to be with the Lord", The text simply does not see that. Nor does the context or the rest of Scripture lend itself to that conclusion, It simply doesn't. Period.
Okay, sparky, show me where Paul says "better" in the 2 Corinthians passage.
You are correct; the word "better" does not appear in the Corinthians passage. But it does appear in the Philippians passage that you cited in support of Jim W N's position.
We continue to talk past each other on the issue and are starting to go around in circles. Let's just agree to disagree and let others viewing this thread draw their own conclusions.
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07/16/2025 7:16:50 PM PDT
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fidelis
(Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
To: boatbums
What BS. Fate is what you make. Now...you may get cancer...but thats got nothing to do with you OR God. Chances are that hard work and tactful planning will result in success.
To: know.your.why
Explain to me HOW it is BS to say God allows suffering for a purpose and His reasons may not always be apparent to those suffering? It is by FAITH that we believe what God has revealed to us in His word about His character - that He is loving and good, that His ways are not our ways nor His thoughts our thoughts. The child of God has HIS promise that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose (Romans 8:28). If you reject God and/or the Bible as His revelation to man, then that’s on you. It may be BS to you but it doesn’t mean you’re right.
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07/17/2025 3:08:02 PM PDT
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boatbums
(God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
To: boatbums
Explain to me HOW it is BS to say God allows suffering for a purpose and His reasons may not always be apparent to those suffering?
Ok I suppose thats generally a point to say "This is how God works". Myself...I'm choosing to not suffer today.
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