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[Catholic Caucus] Leo XIV: "Marriage is not an ideal but the measure of true love between a man and a woman: a love that is total, faithful and fruitful"
Rorate Caeli ^ | June 1, 2025 | Pope Leo XIV

Posted on 06/02/2025 10:34:51 AM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Leo XIV: "Marriage is not an ideal but the measure of true love between a man and a woman: a love that is total, faithful and fruitful"

As soon as we were born, we needed others in order to live; left to ourselves, we would not have survived. Someone else saved us by caring for us in body and spirit. All of us are alive today thanks to a relationship, a free and freeing relationship of human kindness and mutual care.


That human kindness is sometimes betrayed. As for example, whenever freedom is invoked not to give life, but to take it away, not to help, but to hurt. Yet even in the face of the evil that opposes and takes life, Jesus continues to pray to the Father for us. His prayer acts as a balm for our wounds; it speaks to us of forgiveness and reconciliation. That prayer makes fully meaningful our experience of love for one another as parents, grandparents, sons and daughters. That is what we want to proclaim to the world: we are here in order to be “one” as the Lord wants us to be “one,” in our families and in those places where we live, work and study. Different, yet one; many, yet one; always, in every situation and at every stage of life.


Dear friends, if we love one another in this way, grounded in Christ, who is “the Alpha and the Omega,” “the beginning and the end” (cf. Rev 22:13), we will be a sign of peace for everyone, in society and the world. Let us not forget: families are the cradle of the future of humanity.


In recent decades, we have received a sign that fills us with joy but also makes us think. It is the fact that several spouses have been beatified and canonized, not separately, but as married couples. I think of Louis and Zélie Martin, the parents of Saint Therese of the Child Jesus; and of Blessed Luigi and Maria Beltrame Quattrocchi, who raised a family in Rome in the last century. And let us not forget the Ulma family from Poland: parents and children, united in love and martyrdom. I said that this is a sign that makes us think. By pointing to them as exemplary witnesses of married life, the Church tells us that today’s world needs the marriage covenant in order to know and accept God’s love and to defeat, thanks to its unifying and reconciling power, the forces that break down relationships and societies.


For this reason, with a heart filled with gratitude and hope, I would remind all married couples that marriage is not an ideal but the measure of true love between a man and a woman: a love that is total, faithful and fruitful (cf. Humanae Vitae, 9). This love makes you one flesh and enables you, in the image of God, to bestow the gift of life.


I encourage you, then, to be examples of integrity to your children, acting as you want them to act, educating them in freedom through obedience, always seeing the good in them and finding ways to nurture it. And you, dear children, show gratitude to your parents. To say “thank you” each day for the gift of life and for all that comes with it is the first way to honour your father and your mother (cf. Ex 20:12). Finally, dear grandparents and elderly people, I recommend that you watch over your loved ones with wisdom and compassion, and with the humility and patience that come with age.


In the family, faith is handed on together with life, generation after generation. It is shared like food at the family table and like the love in our hearts. In this way, families become privileged places in which to encounter Jesus, who loves us and desires our good, always.


Sermon - Jubilee of Families

St. Peter's Square, June 1, 2025 (excerpt) 


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: marriage; popebob; popeleo; truelove
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1 posted on 06/02/2025 10:34:51 AM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 06/02/2025 10:35:33 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Ecclesiastes 4:11-16

Again, if two lie down together, they will keep warm; But how can one be warm alone? Though one may be overpowered by another, two can withstand him. And a threefold cord is not quickly broken.


3 posted on 06/02/2025 10:41:57 AM PDT by kawhill ("If you ain't got nowheres to run from, you must not have no place to run to." Cormac McCarthy)
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To: ebb tide

“Marriage is not an ideal”? What is an “ideal” pope? A good marriage is ideal for a man, woman and children. The family is the greatest collective in the history of humankind. It is the backbone of civilization.


4 posted on 06/02/2025 10:48:00 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: ebb tide
Wow. Man and woman. Fruitful (i.e., reproduction). Pro-life.

What a great way to kick off Pride Month. I may become a fan of this pope.

5 posted on 06/02/2025 10:48:11 AM PDT by far sider
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To: far sider

I imagine that many liberal heads exploded while reading this.

At least, I hope they did!!!


6 posted on 06/02/2025 10:52:03 AM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: airborne

Those couples-4 kids minimum. That will give the childless cat ladies a place to go when their assistance is helpful.


7 posted on 06/02/2025 10:53:38 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: PGalt

I think the Pope is using “ideal” here to mean a state of abstract perfection, and contrasting that unattainable standard with the actual living reality of a marriage as the full expression of love between a man and a woman, with a family being the natural outgrowth of that love. Thus understood, he’s absolutely stating the Christian truth.


8 posted on 06/02/2025 11:05:53 AM PDT by Orosius
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To: PGalt

He’s saying it’s not *just* an abstract ideal, but a living breathing relationship, an ideal that is lived out day by day in countless acts of love — not just some pie-in-the-sky ideal floating about in one’s head.

I thought his words were beautiful.


9 posted on 06/02/2025 11:07:31 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: PGalt
“Marriage is not an ideal”?

No, it is not some lofty ideal to which none can really aspire.

Marriage is a legitimate, practical, sacramental reality, which many of us are truly blessed with in our daily lives.

10 posted on 06/02/2025 11:29:06 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: PGalt

In Amorim’s Letitia, Francis referred to the Church’s teaching on marriage as an “ideal”, meaning a nice idea, but unattainable on a practical level, especially in the “lived reality” of the divorced and “remarried”.

Leo is directly repudiating this idea.


11 posted on 06/02/2025 11:43:28 AM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: Orosius

Well said.


12 posted on 06/02/2025 11:52:36 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: far sider

What a change from the previous antipope. I like this new American pope.


13 posted on 06/02/2025 11:55:12 AM PDT by medical conservative
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To: ebb tide
I'm not Catholic. I'm pretty much non-denominational.

Can I still come into the Catholic Caucus and say that I really like Leo XIV?

What a refreshing thing it is to have a pope who understands and proclaims such things!

14 posted on 06/02/2025 11:59:57 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain
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To: ebb tide

This is true....

non aesthetic things
@PicturesFoIder

Marriage in 17 seconds
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15 posted on 06/02/2025 12:02:24 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound

Do not marry a woman like that. Do not marry a woman whose mother behaves that way.


16 posted on 06/02/2025 12:08:20 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Orosius
Ideals may be standards we set for ourselves as goals to achieve. Ideals may be unattainable but if we strive to achieve them we WILL be better off than if we didn’t try in the first place. Pope Leo shows us wisdom in a situation- marriage between a man and a woman- that he has not experienced himself.

My wife and I will be celebrating our 44th wedding anniversary on Fri. June 6th. The priest that married us was our pastor, who ended up leaving the church a few months later, because he and the church organist were having an affaire, and she became pregnant. Ironically, his name was Leo, as well.

I have a good feeling about this Holy Father.

17 posted on 06/02/2025 12:58:39 PM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: PGalt

read the rest of the sentence, “...but the measure of true love between a man and a woman: a love that is total, faithful and fruitful (cf. Humanae Vitae, 9).”

IOW, marriage isn’t just some notion.


18 posted on 06/02/2025 2:04:48 PM PDT by SpirituTuo ( )
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To: PGalt

I think you need to review the definition of “ideal” as a noun, which is how he used it, compared to the definition of “ideal” in adjectival form, which is the way you are expressing it.


19 posted on 06/02/2025 2:26:35 PM PDT by Bigg Red ( Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Blessings to you.


20 posted on 06/02/2025 2:28:26 PM PDT by Bigg Red ( Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.)
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