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Posted on 04/30/2025 4:49:43 AM PDT by vespa300
Quote from book by Catholic Scholar:
Why then do Christians observe Sunday instead of the day mentioned in the Bible? In order to make clear to the Jews that they are no longer under the Old Law of Moses, which it requirements of circumcision, abstinence from certain meets and the scrupulous observance of the Jewish sacrifice on the Sabbath, but under the New Law of Christ, the infant Church changed the day to be kept holy from Saturday to Sunday.
But since Saturday, not Sunday, is specified in the Bible, isn’t it curious that non-Catholics who profess to take their religion directly from the Bible and not from the Church, observe Sunday instead of Saturday? Yes of course, it is inconsistent; but this change was made about fifteen centuries before Protestantism was born, and by that time the custom was universally observed. They have continued the custom, even though it rest upon the authority of the Catholic Church and not upon an explicit text in the Bible. That observance remains as a reminder of the Mother Church from which the non-Catholic sects broke away – like a boy running away from home but still carrying in his pocket a picture of his mother or a lock of her hair.
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It was published in decades ago, I believe in the mid 20th century. The author was an American Catholic Scholar. He held a Ph'd was very well respected among Roman Catholics. The link to his biography is linked below.
I would especially be interested to know if my Catholic friends agree with this statement above. And of course all other opinions from other Christians are welcome too. Thank you and God bless.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._O'Brien
The Pharisees asked Jesus the same question..............
I believe what this Catholic Scholar is saying is that Protestants, who he refers to as the “infant church”....Remember, Rome considers herself to be the “Mother” church, that the infant church sort of invented a reason to keep Sunday.
He says This reason is nowhere found in scripture. Then he goes on to say that that this “infant” claiming to go by scripture alone, is in fact keeping a day for which there is no scriptural basis and in fact is keeping the day “that rests upon the authority of the Catholic church and not an explicit text in the Bible.”
Again, I respect and admire that the Roman Catholic church still teaches the 10 commandments as the holy law of God to be observed by Christians. They do not believe in 9 commandments. All they have done is change the holy day of rest from the seventh day to the first based on the authority of the church. Not on scripture.
___The Pharisees asked Jesus the same question..............___
The pharisees accused Jesus of breaking the Sabbath. That would have been a sin. Last time I checked, Jesus never sinned. I am amazed how some evangelicals say Jesus broke the Sabbath. That’s exactly what the pharisees said!
Anyway, I’m not sure you answered my question. Do you agree with this statement by this Catholic Bible Scholar? That there is no Bible support for Sunday as the holy day of rest? That the first day rests on the authority of the Roman Catholic church alone?
Genesis 2
“1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done. 3 So God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it God rested from all his work that he had done in creation.”
Note it does not name the day of the week, just that the day of rest is the 7th day.
Last I check, nothing is stopping you from observing the Sabbath on Saturday. Be my guest.
What, did you want to impose blue laws on Saturday?
___Genesis 2
“1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done. 3 So God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it God rested from all his work that he had done in creation.”
Note it does not name the day of the week, just that the day of rest is the 7th day.___
Thank you. So it is your position we don’t really know what day God made holy?
Jesus death on the Cross finished the Old Covenant.
The Last Supper established the Mass and the Eucharist as part of the New Covenant for our salvation.
His death restored our opportunity to enter Heaven.
Jesus taught us to find the hard way to the Narrow gate.
Jesus established the Catholic Church (initially called the Way) and His 7 Sacraments to help find the narrow gate.
He authorized His Church with His authority “to bind and loose”.
____Last I check, nothing is stopping you from observing the Sabbath on Saturday. Be my guest.
What, did you want to impose blue laws on Saturday?____
No, I was just curious if you agreed with the statement above by this Catholic Scholar. Thank you.
____He authorized His Church with His authority “to bind and loose”.___
Thank you for your answer. So , based on your statement, I can’t really tell if you agree or disagree with this Catholic Scholar as it relates to the origin of first day as being the day of rest, that is rests solely upon the authority of the Catholic church and there is no scriptural support of it.
Perhaps your last statement implies that you do agree with this Catholic Bible scholar?
As long as you adhere to the spirit of the law, you are fine. Some people honor God on Sat, and some on Sunday. We aren’t supposed to argue about this. We both honor God
“So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,”
— Colossians 2:16
If someone truly believes Jesus violated God’s Sabbath command, they are espousing a heretical view by Christian standards—Protestant or Catholic.
When true believers of any denomination say ‘Jesus broke the Sabbath,’ they always mean He broke the Pharisaical rules: human-made traditions and legal interpretations layered onto the Sabbath—not God’s actual commandment.
____As long as you adhere to the spirit of the law, you are fine. Some people honor God on Sat, and some on Sunday. We aren’t supposed to argue about this. We both honor God
“So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,”
— Colossians 2:16____
Well, we have discussed Colossians 2 verse 16 many times. The problem I find with quoting Colossians 2 verse 16 to abandon the Sabbath is that the very next text is typically excluded. In verse 17, we see the word “Shadows”...so clearly Paul is not talking about the holy Seventh day weekly Sabbath which is in the heart of the 10 commandments, the Moral law written by God, not Moses.
The Seventh day God made holy at creation. It predates sin so there is nothing “shadowy” about it. Paul is talking about the annual sabbaths and feasts, and other ceremonial laws , ceremonial sabbaths which are specifically identified in and separate from the holy creation seventh day.
So when we quote one text, let’s remember to read on and put it in proper context.
I agree we shouldn’t argue about this but we can respectually discuss and debate. I appreciate your reponse. Thank you.
2 Tim. 2:23
That would be the correct way to name it. Did you really expect God back in the time of Genesis to say the day named after the (false) Roman god Saturnus? God established the 7 day week. It has endured in usage through the millennia though no known solar or lunar cycles would be the pattern. It is strictly Gods creation for us. To work the first six and rest the seventh. So, it was specific but people are desperate for a loophole because they don't want to be different from the world. 1Peter 2:9
Yes, I agree with him...............
100-percent right.
WHO is stopping vespa from going to his SDA church on Saturday ??
If there is anyone on FR who wants to stop vespa from going to church on Saturday, please step up !
Vespa - is going to church on Saturday so critical to your salvation that you are compelled (obsessed) to share that requirement so that others on FR can be saved from Hell by going to church on Saturday with you ??
Just let us know.
Thanks.
____If someone truly believes Jesus violated God’s Sabbath command, they are espousing a heretical view by Christian standards—Protestant or Catholic.
When true believers of any denomination say ‘Jesus broke the Sabbath,’ they always mean He broke the Pharisaical rules: human-made traditions and legal interpretations layered onto the Sabbath—not God’s actual commandment.___
Well put, I agree 100%. Jesus threw the bathwater out as it relates to the petty rules the religious leaders had concerning the Sabbath. But he never threw the baby out with the bathwater.....on the contrary, clearly he went out of his was to restore the true meaning of the holy seventh day.
He even referred us back to creation in defending the Sabbath when he said.....”The Sabbath was made for man.”
Thank you, I agree.
No, he doesn’t want blue laws, it’s just a smarmy and sly way of provoking Protestants by claiming they are just following a bunch of Catholic dogma so maybe they might as well be Catholic. Calling Protestants sects and children of Catholicism etc. kind of a snotty post.
They schismed away from orthodoxy when Rome claimed to rule all of Christendom because they were in the seat of Roman power. So they are alias looking for ways to “prove” that all Christianity comes from them.
The spirit of this commandment is the Greatest Commandment in Matthew 22: 37-40 to Love the Lord.
The Catholic Church established this day as Sunday based on the Resurrection on Easter Sunday. The Catholic Church was authorized by Jesus.
Sunday is the appropriate day and we have done so for 2000 years. While the Jews were the chosen people, as a group they have not accepted Jesus as God.
Actually we should Love and Worship God everyday in our prayer and actions.
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