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Sunday 3rd Service - The Government Of God (Romans 13:1-7)
Real Life with Jack Hibbs ^ | April 27, 2025 | Jack Hibbs

Posted on 04/27/2025 3:14:20 PM PDT by metmom

Join us as we study in the book of Romans.

The first half hour is worship. The message starts at about the 1:25:00 minute mark as near as I can figure and is is a total of 1:57:55 minutes long, including music worship, prayers etc.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: jackhibbs

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This week's message is on Romans 13:1-7 and he addresses the role of government in society and our lives and our appropriate response to our government.

He also reveals some very interesting things happening in Washington DC and the White House.

I know it's long but was very good.

1 posted on 04/27/2025 3:14:20 PM PDT by metmom
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To: 21twelve; Jane Long; pollywog

Real Life with Jack Hibbs ping


2 posted on 04/27/2025 3:15:07 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesu)
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To: metmom

Thank you for posting and pinging.


3 posted on 04/27/2025 3:26:38 PM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Jane Long

You’re welcome.

It’s very relevant to what’s going on in this country these days.

It kind of fits in with this thread on capital punishment.

To Kill, Or Not To Kill?
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4313462/posts


4 posted on 04/27/2025 3:32:30 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesu)
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To: metmom

Disagree with some of Hibbs’ eschatology and hyper-emphasis on Israel. But among Evangelicals, I find his preaching refreshing compared to the whiffs of thick and damaging Phariseeism plaguing the ministries of John Macarthur and especially John Piper of late.


5 posted on 04/27/2025 3:44:58 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Well, then, I guess you disagree with God because all of Scripture is focused on God dealing with Israel in one way or another.


6 posted on 04/27/2025 3:56:27 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesu)
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To: metmom

I don’t care for Netanyahu. Like, I don’t think he is inherently morally superior to Trump by default.

But I do care about the geopolitical integrity of Israel.


7 posted on 04/27/2025 3:58:15 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It’s not about Netanyahu. It’s about Israel as a nation.

Political leaders come and go and God raises them up or deposes them for His purposes.

Things are falling into place according to God’s prophetic timeline and that’s what’s important. But ultimately, Israel is at the center of human history and will be the focus of all the events of the end times.

One can be pro-Israel regardless of anyone’s opinion of the current political situation or leader.


8 posted on 04/27/2025 4:38:10 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesu)
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To: metmom
I was in the first service today.

I really REALLY encourage all believers on this site to listen to the rebroadcast of this message on Romans 13!

You can listen to it tomorrow and just get the message alone on YouTube.

WELL worth the time.

And I'm with Jane. THANK YOU metmom for posting these messages.

9 posted on 04/27/2025 7:31:23 PM PDT by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: metmom
He brought out points I hadn't even thought of before.

You can also download his notes.

10 posted on 04/27/2025 7:32:15 PM PDT by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: metmom
It’s not about Netanyahu. It’s about Israel as a nation. Political leaders come and go and God raises them up or deposes them for His purposes.
Things are falling into place according to God’s prophetic timeline and that’s what’s important. But ultimately, Israel is at the center of human history and will be the focus of all the events of the end times.
One can be pro-Israel regardless of anyone’s opinion of the current political situation or leader.

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I couldn't have said it better!!!

THANK YOU!!

11 posted on 04/27/2025 7:34:13 PM PDT by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: metmom; CondoleezzaProtege

Metmom, Dispensationalism is a theological framework that divides salvation history into distinct “dispensations” or periods where God interacts with humanity under different covenants or rules —> most especially the non-Christian separation between Israel and The Church. This is non-Biblical and was not preached by St. Paul.

If you, Jan, actually read St. Paul’s letters you will see

Gentiles and Jews are united in Christ
In Ephesians 2:11-22 Paul describes how Christ’s death reconciles Jews and Gentiles into “one new man,” breaking down the “dividing wall of hostility.” This unity in the Church contradicts dispensationalism’s separation of Israel and the Church as distinct entities with separate divine purposes.

In Galatians 3:28-29 Paul writes that “There is neither Jew nor Greek… for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to the promise.” —> Paul writes about the Church as the fulfillment of God’s promise to Abraham, not as a separate entity from Israel.

In Romans 10:4 Paul writes, “Christ is the end [telos, meaning fulfillment or goal] of the law, that everyone who has faith may be justified.” This indicates continuity between the Old and New Covenants, with Christ as the fulfillment of the Law, not a dispensational shift to a new system of salvation.

In Hebrews 8:13 you have By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear. — the New Covenant in Christ has fulfilled and surpassed it, not because God operates under a new dispensation.

Paul very clearly does NOT describe salvation history as divided into distinct dispensations with different rules for salvation. Instead, he emphasizes the universal offer of salvation through faith in Christ (e.g., Romans 3:21-26). His use of the term oikonomia (e.g., Ephesians 3:2, often translated as “dispensation” or “stewardship”) refers to God’s plan or administration of grace through Christ, not to multiple dispensational periods.

This is apparent in Romans 11:17-24 where Paul uses the olive tree metaphor to describe Gentiles as grafted into the same tree as Israel, not as a separate entity with a distinct divine plan. This undermines dispensationalism’s dualistic view of Israel and the Church.


12 posted on 04/27/2025 9:21:42 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: metmom

Furthermore, beyond Paul, nowhere is Dispensationalism’s division of history into distinct periods (e.g., Innocence, Law, Grace) with different salvific rules taught in scripture.
While Scripture describes covenants (e.g., with Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Christ), these are progressive revelations of God’s single plan, culminating in Christ, not separate dispensations.

The dispensationalist separation of Israel and the Church contradicts passages like Ephesians 2:14-16 and Galatians 3:28, which emphasize unity in Christ. The idea of a future restoration of national Israel with a distinct role apart from the Church fails when read against scripture

Dispensationalism relies on 19th-century reinterpretations of texts like Daniel 9:24-27 to support modernist ideas that deny Christ —> in contrast, Christians as seen for example in St. Augustine’s writings, see these prophecies as fulfilled in Christ’s first coming, not as future events tied to a distinct dispensation.

Dispensationalism is a 19th century philosophy created in the same time and region as Mormonism, Millerism (Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah’s witnesses) and Christian scientist s - and like them is false. Dispensationalism was systematized by John Nelson Darby (1800–1882), a Plymouth Brethren leader, in the 1830s. Darby’s teachings, including the separation of Israel and the Church, the pre-tribulation rapture, and distinct dispensations, were novel and not found in prior Christian belief

In contrast the Bible shows the continuity of God’s covenant, with the New Covenant fulfilling the Old.

Furthermore, beyond Paul, nowhere is Dispensationalism’s division of history into distinct periods (e.g., Innocence, Law, Grace) with different salvific rules taught in scripture.
While Scripture describes covenants (e.g., with Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Christ), these are progressive revelations of God’s single plan, culminating in Christ, not separate dispensations.

The dispensationalist separation of Israel and the Church contradicts passages like Ephesians 2:14-16 and Galatians 3:28, which emphasize unity in Christ. The idea of a future restoration of national Israel with a distinct role apart from the Church fails when read against scripture

Dispensationalism relies on 19th-century reinterpretations of texts like Daniel 9:24-27 to support modernist ideas that deny Christ —> in contrast, Christians as seen for example in St. Augustine’s writings, see these prophecies as fulfilled in Christ’s first coming, not as future events tied to a distinct dispensation.

Dispensationalism is a 19th century philosophy created in the same time and region as Mormonism, Millerism (Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah’s witnesses) and Christian scientist s - and like them is false. Dispensationalism was systematized by John Nelson Darby (1800–1882), a Plymouth Brethren leader, in the 1830s. Darby’s teachings, including the separation of Israel and the Church, the pre-tribulation rapture, and distinct dispensations, were novel and not found in prior Christian belief

In contrast the Bible shows the continuity of God’s covenant, with the New Covenant fulfilling the Old.


13 posted on 04/27/2025 9:23:08 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: pollywog

Yes, and some of the things he mentioned that are happening in DC and the White House, I was unaware of.


14 posted on 04/28/2025 5:49:18 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesu)
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To: metmom
Good morning Metmom. Going to review my notes again today.

I have a hearing loss and so often while actually in service I miss some of what is said.

I come home and use a speaker to my ear! haha and relisten...

Pastor seems to be alert to what is going on in DC and the White House and goes to God's Word for insight.

15 posted on 04/28/2025 9:29:47 AM PDT by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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