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Ellen White's Warning to Protestants about Rome
The Great Controversy ^ | 1911 | Ellen White

Posted on 04/10/2025 4:59:08 AM PDT by vespa300

And let it be remembered, it is the boast of Rome that she never changes. The principles of Gregory VII and Innocent III are still the principles of the Roman Catholic Church. And had she but the power, she would put them in practice with as much vigor now as in past centuries. Protestants little know what they are doing when they propose to accept the aid of Rome in the work of Sunday exaltation. While they are bent upon the accomplishment of their purpose, Rome is aiming to re-establish her power, to recover her lost supremacy. Let the principle once be established in the United States that the church may employ or control the power of the state; that religious observances may be enforced by secular laws; in short, that the authority of church and state is to dominate the conscience, and the triumph of Rome in this country is assured.

God's word has given warning of the impending danger; let this be unheeded, and the Protestant world will learn what the purposes of Rome really are, only when it is too late to escape the snare. She is silently growing into power. Her doctrines are exerting their influence in legislative halls, in the churches, and in the hearts of men. She is piling up her lofty and massive structures in the secret recesses of which her former persecutions will be repeated. Stealthily and unsuspectedly she is strengthening her forces to further her own ends when the time shall come for her to strike. All that she desires is vantage ground, and this is already being given her. We shall soon see and shall feel what the purpose of the Roman element is. Whoever shall believe and obey the word of God will thereby incur reproach and persecution.

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She also said this.....wow:

Marvelous in her shrewdness and cunning is the Roman Church. She can read what is to be. She bides her time, seeing that the Protestant churches are paying her homage in their acceptance of the false sabbath and that they are preparing to enforce it by the very means which she herself employed in bygone days. Those who reject the light of truth will yet seek the aid of this self-styled infallible power to exalt an institution that originated with her. How readily she will come to the help of Protestants in this work it is not difficult to conjecture. Who understands better than the papal leaders how to deal with those who are disobedient to the church?

1 posted on 04/10/2025 4:59:08 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

The Catechism is calling For Sunday to be a “legal holiday.”

Think of that. Ponder that. It’s all falling into place.

Section 2188 of the Catholic Catechism:

2188 In respecting religious liberty and the common good of all, Christians should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church’s holy days as legal holidays. They have to give everyone a public example of prayer, respect, and joy and defend their traditions as a precious contribution to the spiritual life of society. If a country’s legislation or other reasons require work on Sunday, the day should nevertheless be lived as the day of our deliverance which lets us share in this “festal gathering,” this “assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven.”125

https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P7O.HTM


2 posted on 04/10/2025 5:04:15 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

So, do they worship The Church or do they worship Jesus Christ?


3 posted on 04/10/2025 5:06:04 AM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: vespa300

No thank you Church of Rome. I don’t need you to mandate Sunday as a Legal Holiday.

I am a Seventh day Sabbath keeper and of course we know where this will lead to as the world implodes. Prophecy is right on schedule. Amazing....

Her wound has healed. Like Jack Nicholson said in The Shining...”I”m baaack.”.....She’s baaack.


4 posted on 04/10/2025 5:06:27 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: Trumpet 1

It’s very sad that many Catholics have more of a relationship with the church than with the Savior.

And that’s how the church wants it to be.

She is the great counterfeit and has a counterfeit for everything God has. Counterfeit priest, counterfeit gospel, even a counterfeit day.


5 posted on 04/10/2025 5:08:08 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

Note: when she refers to the Roman Church, she is NOT talking about the laity (the true bride of Christ), she is talking about the elitist clerics in the Vatican (all those evil Heretics).

Yes, the Vatican will crumble and fall, but the true church of Christ will live forever.


6 posted on 04/10/2025 5:08:28 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

>>>Note: when she refers to the Roman Church, she is NOT talking about the laity (the true bride of Christ), she is talking about the elitist clerics in the Vatican (all those evil Heretics).>>>>

I agree with you in a sense. She is indeed talking about the church hierarchy, the popes, the leaders and certainly God has his people in every church.

As for the true church, the true church is anyone who calls on Jesus Christ as their savior and those who call on Jesus Christ are those who “keep the commandments of God”. And in the context of end times.....that includes ALL of his commandments, the 4th commandment too.

John saw the ark of the covenant in Heaven which contained the Ten Commandents....called the “Tabernacle of the Testimony”....that is the law which judges the world. And in heaven, i assure you......the Sabbath has bee crossed out and Sunday replaces it.

Not one JOT or TITTLE in that law has changed, or will ever change. The Bible says we will even have the Sabbath in the new earth....Isaiah 66.

It’s time for Christians to come out of Babylon....


7 posted on 04/10/2025 5:16:25 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300
<<>> Of course I meant to say has NOT been crossed out.
8 posted on 04/10/2025 5:17:37 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

The current bishop of Rome is a gay communist, so all bets are off.


9 posted on 04/10/2025 5:24:35 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: vespa300

The Visions of Armageddon in 1844 lady?


10 posted on 04/10/2025 5:24:45 AM PDT by Salman (Lasu Eŭropon bruli!)
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>>>The Visions of Armageddon in 1844 lady?>>>

Uh, it was William Miller, a BAPTIST who brought the 1844 message to the world. And he was a good man by all accounts, looking for his Savior.

He got the date right but the event wrong. Then people like Ellen White went back to the scriptures, prayed, and sure enough.....the greatest Prophecy in the entire Bible....Daniel 8:14 was revealed. The 2300 day/year.

This grand prophecy envelopes the 490 year probation God gave Israel to get it’s act together and the 1260 year reign of the great counterfeit.....Rome. 538 to 1798 when the Pope was taken captive.

It helps to study the Bible and history....fool.


11 posted on 04/10/2025 5:32:35 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

This screed was written well over 100 years ago. I have my objections to the Vatican of Bergoglio, but the “Romanism” and “popery” she reviles bears no resemblance to the Roman Catholic Church of today.


12 posted on 04/10/2025 5:33:27 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: vespa300

So far all I see is an factually ignorant bitchy woman who wishes she was in charge


13 posted on 04/10/2025 5:34:24 AM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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To: Trumpet 1

The Adventists consider Jesus Christ to be the angel Michael.


14 posted on 04/10/2025 5:39:18 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: hinckley buzzard

>>>>This screed was written well over 100 years ago.>>>

And isn’t it AMAZING what she wrote over 100 years about Sunday exaltatioin is now happening!!!

This Pope has wrote about Sunday, a day to take off for “climate change” and Pope John Paul issued an entire letter, I forget what you call it....regarding...SUNDAY. It was called DIES DOMINI.

And now........the Catechism, thanks to this renewed focus on Sunday and how it should be declared a legal holiday....has that language added to it.

What an amazing prophecy being fulfilled and she wrote about it. Of course this is all in scripture....Daniel 7:25 tells us this counterfeit religious power would “attempt to change times and law”.....only the 4th commandment the Sabbath, has anything to do with time in the law. Holy Time.

And she admits.....she changed it! Well, she thinks she did.

Prophecy is amazing. But for those who don’t go along with the world and Sunday.......buckle up. You aren’t going to be well liked.

As I tell people who hate the Sabbath......”If ya think you hate it now....wait till later”

The Catechism:

Section 2188

2188 In respecting religious liberty and the common good of all, Christians should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church’s holy days as legal holidays. They have to give everyone a public example of prayer, respect, and joy and defend their traditions as a precious contribution to the spiritual life of society. If a country’s legislation or other reasons require work on Sunday, the day should nevertheless be lived as the day of our deliverance which lets us share in this “festal gathering,” this “assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven.”125


15 posted on 04/10/2025 5:39:33 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: Repulican Donkey; vespa300

Yup, and can you believe that these Adventists have her as their founding prophetess when she had a number of failed prophecies?

Here’s an overview of the most commonly cited examples:

1. The Shut Door Doctrine (1844–1851)
Claim: After the Great Disappointment of October 22, 1844, when Christ didn’t return as expected by the Millerites, Ellen White initially supported the “shut door” teaching. She claimed in visions that probation had closed for the world, meaning no further conversions were possible, and salvation was limited to those who had accepted the Millerite message (e.g., A Word to the Little Flock, 1847: “I saw that the mysterious signs and wonders, and false reformations would increase and spread. The reformations that were shown me were not reformations from error to truth”).

In reality: By the early 1850s, Adventists, including White, began evangelizing widely, implying probation hadn’t closed. Critics argue this shift contradicts her early visions, suggesting they were false or revised post hoc.

2. Jerusalem Never to Be Rebuilt
Claim: In Early Writings (p. 75), White wrote, “I also saw that Old Jerusalem never would be built up,” based on a vision she interpreted as divine revelation.

In reality: Since 1948, Jerusalem has seen significant rebuilding, especially after Israel’s establishment. Critics see this as a clear failed prediction, given modern Jerusalem’s growth.

3. England Declaring War on the U.S. During the Civil War
Claim: During the American Civil War (1861–1865), White predicted in Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 1 (p. 259), that England would intervene: “England is studying whether it is best to take advantage of the present opportunity… to establish her power. Should England declare war, all nations would have an interest of their own to serve, and there would be general war.”

In reality: England never declared war on the U.S. during the Civil War, despite tensions (e.g., the Trent Affair). Critics say this was a false prophecy about a specific event.

4. Christ’s Return in Her Lifetime
Claim: White made statements suggesting she expected Christ’s return within her lifetime or soon after. For example, in 1856, she wrote about a vision of Adventists alive at the time: “I was shown the company present at the Conference. Said the angel: ‘Some food for worms, some subjects of the seven last plagues, some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus’” (Testimonies, Vol. 1, p. 131). She also said in 1888, “The hour will come; it is not far distant” (Review and Herald, Oct. 9, 1888).

In reality: Christ didn’t return in the 19th century, and all those present in 1856 died. Critics argue this sets a failed timeline.

5. Slavery’s Continuance
Claim: In 1862, White wrote, “It seemed impossible for slavery to be stopped in its career” (Testimonies, Vol. 1, p. 266), during the Civil War.

In reality: Slavery was abolished in the U.S. with the 13th Amendment in 1865, shortly after. Critics see this as a misjudgment of events unfolding in her time.

In addition, E. G. White prophesied the world would end in 1843, 1844, 1845 & 1851: “Now time is almost finished, (1851) and what we have been 6 years in learning they will have to learn in months.” EARLY WRITINGS p. 57

Concerning some of her ``revelations,’’ Biederwolf, Seventh-Day Adventism, p. 8f “In one of her visions her accompanying angels told her that the time of salvation for all sinners ended in 1844. She now claims the door of mercy is still open...In another vision she discovered that women should wear short dresses with pants and she and her sister followers dressed this way for eight years. But the ridiculous custom has now been abandoned....’’

“I was shown the company present at the Conference. Said the angel: Some food for worms, some subject to the last plagues, some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus’” (Vol. 1, p. 131). NOTE: This statement was made in 1856 and every one present in that meeting is now dead. Obviously, this was a false prophecy

Since she was a false prophet, she created this non-Christian religion called Adventism where they believe that Jesus entered heaven only in 1844


16 posted on 04/10/2025 5:41:32 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

>>>The Adventists consider Jesus Christ to be the angel Michael.>>>

I can see youve done a deep study on the terms “Angel of the Lord” when it’s used in the Old Testament and who it was.

Who was in the burning bush that appeared to Moses?

Michael is just another name for the Lord in OT incarnate.

And he was never created, he has always existed from everlasting to everlasting.

Now. do a study on the 3 who came to visit Abraham before God destroyed Sodom. Who was one of those 3 and how is he described.

You are an amateur idiot.


17 posted on 04/10/2025 5:42:10 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

The UnHoly Roman Church in Rome is besieged by Homosexuals. The most despicable of God’s creation are those occuply what is considered the most Holy site and leadership for humanity. I am not a Catholic and could never support Obama’s Shower-Soap-Pope-on-a-Rope bath house Marxist, nor abortion. The Church is run by fallen humans. The humans need to get that house in Rome in order.


18 posted on 04/10/2025 5:43:21 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: vespa300

satan loves this stuff- division is his game.


19 posted on 04/10/2025 5:43:25 AM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: Cronos

>>>Since she was a false prophet, she created this non-Christian religion called Adventism where they believe that Jesus entered heaven only in 1844>>>

This moron doesn’t know the difference between “heaven” and the “most holy” in heaven.

He lies about everything else. This is what Radical Catholics do. they lie


20 posted on 04/10/2025 5:44:05 AM PDT by vespa300
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