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New details emerge in class-action lawsuit against Gateway Church
CBS NEWS ^ | October 10, 2024 | Amelia Mugavero

Posted on 10/13/2024 7:49:10 PM PDT by Morgana

SOUTHLAKE — New developments have emerged in the class-action lawsuit filed against Southlake-based Gateway Church last week.

The lawsuit filed Friday demands Gateway refund donations, known as tithes, made by church members.

Lawyers in the class-action suit report significantly more Gateway members are now seeking refunds of their tithes.

"This case is about two things. It's about fraud and breach of contract," said Micha Dortch, lead legal counsel for the class-action suit. "To not let us see the books and to bring this new defense of 'it's not legal to return the money,' it's just absurd."

The lawsuit is the latest in a series of significant issues faced by the North Texas megachurch in 2024. The video player is currently playing an ad.

Former senior pastor Robert Morris was accused of sexually abusing a 12-year-old girl in the 1980s, leading to his resignation in June. Following his departure, several prominent members of Gateway Church, including his son and daughter-in-law, also stepped down. Executive pastor Kemtal Glasgow resigned due to an unspecified "moral issue." Additionally, the church is contending with new lawsuits, including one involving allegations of child sex abuse by a youth group member.

"Some of you have raised concerns about Gateway's financials and stewardship," Gateway Church elder Tra Willbanks said at a church service on Saturday.

In the sermon, Willbanks announced the church hired a new agency to look into its financial ethics — the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability. Willbanks also claimed the church has audited its records for years.

"Gateway has had independently audited financial statements since 2005," he announced.

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"The lawsuit filed Friday demands Gateway refund donations, known as tithes, made by church members."
1 posted on 10/13/2024 7:49:10 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana
"The lawsuit filed Friday demands Gateway refund donations, known as tithes, made by church members."

They can demand all they want. They are not going to get.

Donations are not membership dues, where you can indeed demand a refund if an organization does not fulfill a contract, but fall under the category of "gift".

It would have to be an outright scam, (they say they are going to plant trees with the money, they instead took a trip to Aruba) with no moneys going to what they said before you would have any chance and even that is questionable.

2 posted on 10/13/2024 8:20:30 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Morgana

My tithes are between the Lord and I. The church is just the vehicle through which I offer my tithe. If I believed the church was improperly using my tithes, I would change churches.


3 posted on 10/13/2024 9:31:50 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (No food in the stores; fuel prices too high? Thank a liberal.)
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To: OrangeHoof; All

I see your point but at the same time I’m glad these people are doing this as it’s holding this church accountable.


4 posted on 10/13/2024 10:02:43 PM PDT by Morgana ( “Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women.” — Alice Paul )
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To: Morgana

My mom listened to Pastor Morris’s t.v. Broadcast a lot on Sundays when I was visiting her. He preached on tithing more than almost any minister I ever heard.

I knew he was a huckster.


5 posted on 10/13/2024 11:13:43 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Usually when their sermon is 90% “give me your money” you know they are a grifter.


6 posted on 10/13/2024 11:38:00 PM PDT by Morgana ( “Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women.” — Alice Paul )
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To: OrangeHoof

>> My tithes are between the Lord and I. The church is just the vehicle through which I offer my tithe. If I believed the church was improperly using my tithes, I would change churches.

^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^


7 posted on 10/14/2024 3:04:29 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Morgana

So Morgana, have you ever in your career here at FR ever posted about a church that you consider worthy? In your Christian walk, have you ever found one? Or do you consider digging up the dirt to be your Christian mission?


8 posted on 10/14/2024 3:09:49 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Morgana

Religion is free... I donate to charities not the Vatican.


9 posted on 10/14/2024 4:26:39 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
They can demand all they want. They are not going to get.

Donations are not membership dues, where you can indeed demand a refund if an organization does not fulfill a contract, but fall under the category of "gift".

You are probably correct here.

But if the church did return tithes, the IRS might get very interested if they had claimed those donations to the church as charitable donations on their taxes.

10 posted on 10/14/2024 4:52:36 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: Nervous Tick; Morgana

I, for one, am glad to see Miss Morgana exposing the grifters, perverts, and frauds who masquerade as Christian ministers whilst abusing We the Faithful. Anyone who wants to hide their misconduct is, IMO, a bit suspect ...


11 posted on 10/14/2024 5:00:31 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain; Morgana

How very John 17 Christian of you! ❤️✝️

But amidst your innuendo, neither of you found the voice to answer my legitimate request for a Christian tribe (denomination) and/or outpost (congregation) that you deem worthy of the Lamb’s Sacrifice. Can you help? Dare you help?


12 posted on 10/14/2024 6:06:38 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Nervous Tick; Morgana

We all (well, those of use who pay attention) learned long ago that covering up for the grifters, perverts, and frauds who masquerade as Christian ministers whilst abusing We the Faithful simply leads to more grifting, more perversion, more fraud, and more abuse.

Anyone who objects to exposing them is (perhaps inadvertently) part of the problem.

Don’t be part of the problem.


13 posted on 10/14/2024 6:16:44 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Still crickets on what is righteous... except that you are.

Okay, fairasee. Whatever. I’ll pray for your eyesight. Have a blessed day.


14 posted on 10/14/2024 6:37:13 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Oh yes the IRS would be very interested.
15 posted on 10/14/2024 8:13:27 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I reject the premise of your question, so it gets no answer.

Grifters, perverts, frauds, and abusers can either be exposed, expelled, and prosecuted ... or they can be given aid and comfort.

I know you don’t want to give aid and comfort to the enemy ... nobody on FR would want to do THAT ... so your purpose here is a mystery.

The church is a hospital for the healing and forgiveness of repentant sinners. It is NOT to be a playground for grifters, perverts, frauds, and abusers.


16 posted on 10/14/2024 8:30:40 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

I’ll pray for your soul.


17 posted on 10/14/2024 2:58:55 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Thank you, brother. I appreciate that. And I, in turn, will pray for your soul.


18 posted on 10/14/2024 3:02:49 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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