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Rome Takes Historic Step Towards ‘Full Communion’ with Conservative Anglicans
The Stream ^ | July 2, 2024 | Jules Gomes

Posted on 07/02/2024 5:05:42 PM PDT by ebb tide

Rome Takes Historic Step Towards ‘Full Communion’ with Conservative Anglicans

The Vatican is taking historic strides towards achieving “full communion” with Anglicans who do not ordain female priests. It is doing so by recognizing Anglican holy orders and churches, but not requiring them to merge with or convert to Roman Catholicism.

“We are scheduled to begin our talks at the Vatican this coming September 26-27,” Bishop Ray Sutton, presiding bishop of the Reformed Episcopal Church in the U.S., announced in an Ecumenical Relations Task Force Report of the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA) College of Bishops.

The ACNA bishops, who oversee 128,000 Anglicans in more than 1,000 congregations across Canada, Mexico, and the United States, met during a provincial council from June 20-25 at St. Vincent’s College in Latrobe, Pennsylvania.

Secret Vatican Meeting

The report reveals that Archbishop Foley Beach, who was then the primate of ACNA; Bishop Eric Menees, the chair of dialogue with the Roman Catholic Church; and Bishop Sutton flew to the Vatican for meetings at the Vatican’s Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF) in June 2023.

The Anglican bishops held talks with Catholic Archbishop Joseph Augustine Di Noia, who was then the adjunct secretary of the DDF, and his assistant, Fr. Andrew Liaugminas, who is seconded to the DDF by the archdiocese of Chicago.

(Excerpt) Read more at stream.org ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: apostatepope; frankenchurch; invalidorders; jorgetheheretic; morepopenews
In an unprecedented move, the process of Anglican-Roman Catholic union is being led by the DDF — the Vatican’s doctrinal watchdog — instead of the Vatican’s Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity, which is the Holy See’s conventional means of dialogue with Christians of other denominations.

This correspondent learned of secret meetings between ACNA bishops and top officials at the DDF earlier this year and published an exclusive news story about the historic meeting in the summer edition of Mass of Ages, the quarterly magazine of the Latin Mass Society.

1 posted on 07/02/2024 5:05:42 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Apostolicae Curae
On the Nullity of Anglican Orders
Pope Leo XIII - 1896

Secret meetings with the Chicoms, secret meetings with the Anglicans. So much for visibilty in FrankenChurch.

And of course, Bergoglio's right-hand heretic, Tucho is leading this latest betrayal of the Catholic Church.

2 posted on 07/02/2024 5:16:37 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

Our local priestess will or will not be included? How about the lesbian ‘Bishop’?


3 posted on 07/02/2024 5:27:56 PM PDT by MSF BU
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To: MSF BU

It’s explained in the article.


4 posted on 07/02/2024 5:31:03 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

“...full communion...”

This is not, and never was, “a thing”.


5 posted on 07/02/2024 5:32:41 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: ebb tide

This makes little sense in the context of the Bergoglians’ war on us Latin Mass people. They shoot their mouths off about the Novus Ordo being the “one rite” that everyone must kowtow to, but these Anglicans get to come in and keep their rites? Ecumenism for everyone but us.


6 posted on 07/02/2024 5:55:52 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: ebb tide

I read that as “Full Communism” the first time and was surprised the Church was finally admitting it. :)


7 posted on 07/02/2024 5:58:14 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: irishjuggler
This makes little sense in the context of the Bergoglians’ war on us Latin Mass people.

What I find hillarious is that it was the Anglicans who were hesitant to "full communion" with FrankenChurch because of Bergoglio's Fiducia Supplicans.

Are they more Catholic than this pope?

8 posted on 07/02/2024 6:22:51 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

My dog is more Catholic than this pope.


9 posted on 07/02/2024 8:32:10 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: MSF BU

You didn’t read the article.
I belong to the Anglican church. I know some of these people that went to these secret talks.
They are not Episcopalians.These people have left the atheist Episcopal church USA far behind because of their lesbians and women priests and bishops and many other things actually.
The exit was painful and a long ordeal. 40 years. Many of the parishes had to leave their church buildings that they had had in their congregation for generations. The struggle has been huge and going on for a long long time. When the split first came, a lot of people went to the Roman church. But a lot of people also went to the Orthodox Church. I myself would have liked to become Orthodox if I could have found a church near me.
I was never wanting to be part of the Roman Church because Even though I had been confirmed in the Episcopal church, I could not take communion in the Roman church until I went through a year of RCIA and underwent a conditional baptism because I was raised in the Baptist church and they don’t issue baptismal certificates.
I went to a Roman Catholic church with my sister and her husband. They came to visit me when and when it came time to take communion, told me to stay in my seat. I never felt so rejected in my I life and I knew that Jesus would not do that to me, and I never went back.
If there’s going to be reconciliation that would be a wonderful thing.


10 posted on 07/02/2024 9:37:30 PM PDT by tinamina (Remember when Biden said “we have developed the most sophisticated voting fraud system ever”? )
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To: tinamina
I belong to the Anglican church. I know some of these people that went to these secret talks.

Why have the talks been secret?

If you're unhappy in the Anglican church, why not just convert to the Catholic Church?

If you're happy with the Anglican church, why not just stay where you are?

11 posted on 07/02/2024 10:20:20 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: tinamina
You shouldn't have felt rejected in any way...
unless as Anglican, you believed in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
That is the ideal of Communion... that it is the Body of Christ to be consumed. To not accept and believe in that truth when approaching the Eucharist..
well ... it's just an ineffective waste of time for the non-believer.
That's what I assume your sister was conveying to you.
Christ does welcome all to his Church though, just the same.


12 posted on 07/03/2024 6:58:04 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (“We May Not Lose Our Salvation... But We CAN Indeed, Throw It Away....")
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To: ebb tide

I do not know no way the article said that he talks were so great. The idea of being in communion is if you go to a town where there’s no Anglican church, you can go to the Catholic Church and receive communion as if you were a member in good standing.


13 posted on 07/03/2024 8:02:40 AM PDT by tinamina (Remember when Biden said “we have developed the most sophisticated voting fraud system ever”? )
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To: tinamina

I did read the article. My problem with this is that the Episcopal/Anglican church is in a state of perpetual decline. There is a religious equivalent of Gresham’s Law where the Left Ruins Everything They Touch...Prager I know, but it’s true. Eventually these denominations with have a ‘Bishop Pike’ moment, then the slide begins.


14 posted on 07/05/2024 10:13:58 AM PDT by MSF BU
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