Posted on 06/06/2024 4:25:04 AM PDT by Cronos
For those of us who have raised children, you might remember the question. There was a commercial, as I recall, that used the question to emphasize one product or the other in a humorous way.
Children in the back seat of the car in the commercial kept asking, “Are we there yet?”
We who transported our young kids on those times – especially on longer trips to Grandmas or other destinations – have heard that question, often in whining tones as time went on. I certainly remember hearing it. And I’m sure my parents heard it on those long trips from Pekin, Illinois, where we lived when I was a child, on the road to Hampton, my grandparent’s home in south Arkansas.
At this late moment of this Church Age I, myself, seem to be whining this question, and I’m hearing it from others on a growing basis.
“Are we there yet?”
It is coming from God’s children – believers in Jesus Christ who, like myself, sometimes grow weary –or vexed – as ol’ Lot might have put it while enduring to the end his time in Sodom.
“Are we there yet?” That is, how long before we reach the end of our Lord’s tolerance for the evil flourishing all around us while we keep looking up,” as my friend the late J.R. Church used to put it at the close of his Prophecy In The News TV program each week.
Each and every day – actually, each and every news cycle – we are inundated with end-times storm warnings. And it seems as if the Words of Warning from the Chief Prophetic Meteorologist of all history is speaking directly to those who, as commanded by Him – are “watching in order to discern where this generation stands on God’s Prophetic Timeline.
Jesus gave the signals to look for as Earth’s inhabitants near the outbreak of history’s most virulent turbulence – that of the Tribulation era. The following is that Storm warning.
“Are we there yet?” Is that great storm of the ages about to invade at this particular time? Let’s listen again to that Heaven-Sent Forecast that we can rely on as 100% accurate because it was issued by God Himself.
“And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved” (Matt 24:6-13).
Heaven’s Prophetic Forecast, of course, covers a broad scope of history, so many parts of this Olivet Discourse prophecy by Jesus applies to much of history that has already un-scrolled since He issued this Prophetic Weather Bulletin. Let us very briefly dissect this Warning, first in terms of its broad, historical sense.
“And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars.”
Hundreds of wars have afflicted humanity since Jesus spoke these words. The greatest wars of all time, World Wars One and Two, have caused the deaths of millions. The Romans waged war on the Jews, the Temple was destroyed, and the Jewish people scattered to all the world.
“For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.”
As a matter of fact, it has been ethnic disputes and warfare that have wrought the deaths of millions across the world.
“And there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.”
Earthquakes have continued to rumble throughout history, while the wars have brought famine and disease to countless generations. We have seen in our brief time on the planet as of late, a tremendous increase in these things.
“All these are the beginning of sorrows.”
These great troubles have been accumulative. They have indeed been like birth pangs, growing more intensive and coming in greater frequency.
“Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.”
The history of hatred of the Jews is in full view of the eyes of the world. The Nazi holocaust is the number one sign of history that highlights the satanic hatred God’s chosen people have endured. Their rejection of the very name of Jesus Christ and their being blamed for His crucifixion has been the basis Satan has used to incite the world against all of Israel.
So history has proven the absolute accuracy of Jesus’ Prophetic Forecast. But it is the question “Are we there yet?” I wish to address with regard to whether this generation has reached the moment when the Lord will say enough is enough and call believers to Himself so the greatest Storm of all history can rage upon a world ripe for Judgment.
We must place the same template over what is going on at this very moment to try to help answer, “Are we there yet?”
“And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars.”
The most profound threat of nuclear conflict of history might now be in the offing. Even the Cold War could not match the danger. Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) was effective, as the world’s two greatest superpowers were able to control escalation into man’s final war.
Not so now. There seems no control, as the power centers with the nuclear weapons are scattered around the globe, and many decision-makers among the most diabolical of their leaders seem bent on having their way, regardless of possible ramifications of all-out nuclear war.
The primary cause of the conflict again centers around ethnic differences and demands. Greatest among these conflicts is the hatred of the Jews and of Israel by their neighboring countries.
And that hatred has expanded to include many within nations of Europe and even the United States of America.
The seas and waves of peoples are roaring in that the protests against the Jews and Israel are front and center in even what is generally considered the civilized West.
At this very moment, even some among the Jewish people themselves are shouting along with the Israel-haters, “Stop the genocide,” and “From the river to the sea.”
As Jesus forewarned, these Jews on the politically ideological left are “betraying one another.” The genocidal rage is building swiftly toward another holocaust. Jesus also had a forecast about this evil that will mark the very end of the age.
“For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be” (Matt 24:21).
And hatred is building, too, against the Church – all believers in Jesus Christ and His Message of being the One and Only Way to Salvation (John 14:6).
The comment by a legal defense fund for Christian persecution states the following:
Biden is empowering the radical Left to wage a surreptitious war on our Christian faith – prayer, churches, the Bible, and even Christian kids sharing their faith in school are all under attack. The Biden FBI has even placed spies in churches and targeted “radical traditionalist” Christians for investigation…
We’re in court right now defending a teacher who was banned from praying anywhere a student might see her.
I’ve never seen anything like it… [Source: Jordan Sekulow, ACLJ Executive Director]
While unbelieving Jews must undergo the Tribulation Storm to bring forth a Remnant that will bring about God’s great Promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, believers of this Church Age (Age of Grace) will be taken (paralambano) to be with Jesus in the Clouds of Glory – In the Rapture. All indicators are that we have come to be right smack in the breaking turbulence of Jesus’ forecast of the end-times Storm.
And this is why I believe we can answer with a resounding “YES!” the question: “Are we there yet?”
I said “trying to predict”
like other items in pre-tribulation rapturism, this 19th century modernist philosophy is just false
you said
tryingtopredict DATE AND TIME
you changed the title , that is against board rules btw, and now you are trying to divert .
weasely if you ask me
fact remains
no date set
no time set
your title is a lie
that makes you, amoung other things,
that makes you a ......
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your fact trail and exegesis technique
remind me of jack smith,
adam shift, nanzi and strozak.
birds of a feather i guess.
I remember the “88 Reasons” book. I even bought one. But I learned early on never to put much credence on books/teachings like this.
your fact trail and exegesis technique
remind me of jack smith,
fanni willis
And especially judge Merchan
While true, belief in the rapture is NOT the cause of it. Nor does it even contribute to it.
Contrary to the misrepresentation that premillennialists are escapists who don’t care what happens and are lazy and unmotivated to share their faith, that is NOT true.
The thought that people are going to be going through THE Tribulation and likely, ultimately end up in hell, is STRONG motivation to share our faith. NOBODY wants to see someone go through the horrors that the Great Tribulation is going to bring on the earth
No. Jehovah Witnesses are though.
+1
Even then, it was not the day and hour.
I appreciate that. Thx.
You aren't one of those "the Zionists are exterminating the palestianians to create the New World Order" types, are you?
Why do some people hate Israel so much? A radical turn away from the Noahcide philosophy moved into from others?
Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Dispensationalists, Mormons - all of these are 19th century modernist philosophies that arose in the USA.
In the Bible the word “dispensation” never refers to a period of time. Invariably its meaning is “a stewardship,” “the act of dispensing,” “an administration.” Read the four New Testament texts in which the word “dispensation” is found: 1 Corinthians 9:17; Ephesians 1:10; 3:2; and Colossians 1:25. Weymouth’s translation of 1 Corinthians 9:17 reads: “A stewardship has nevertheless been entrusted to me.”
The plan of the ages is a gospel plan. God’s dealings with man have been ever the same. Faithful Abel and Enoch, Abraham and Moses, were all “saved by grace.” Their lives were marked by obedience to God’s commandments. By “faith,” they obeyed So, today God’s remnant church is a church which keeps the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
Declaring it and knowing it are two different things.
Your declaration is doing nothing regarding the timing of the Rapture.
“it is not what Jesus said would happen - He told us that we would be persecuted for believing in Him”
He also said “the one that endures until the end will be saved”. Until the end of what? This ongoing picnic we’re already experiencing? No. The end of what is yet to happen, according to God’s word in the Bible.
Those that believe they will be magically whisked away and never have to “endure” or witness what’s coming are in for a very rude and soul-threatening shock. And I have some in my own family that I have tried and failed to convince of this. Sad, that. But at least I keep trying.
Current situation in Ukraine has a potential for it but I think it’s a low probability.
( i know, just don’t tell God)
wink wink.
Cronos the Catholic is the last person I would seek for theological answers.
Yup.
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