Posted on 05/28/2024 6:40:38 PM PDT by MurphsLaw
A homily from Trinity Sunday that hopefully helps some understand,
the most fundamental aspect of the Triune God we believe in.
While maybe pedantic for some, hopefully this homily can help some understand the Trinitarian nature of God,
in away that we no longer have to pretend knowing such a significant part of our Faith.
14 min YouTube link below:
Three Ways of Approaching The Trinity
Some scholars think that Holy, Holy, Holy, is an OT reference to the Trinity.
Bishop Barron is awesome!!!
He’s very real and has a lot of YouTube videos.
I studied this topic for 10+ years.
If you really want to understand it, there is a promise in Romans chapter 1
It unlocked my understanding.
See if you can find the promise. Read the original KJV as it’s the clearest in this particular instance.
Which oddly, is the same way its analogized in the video I posted...
though "Love" is put forth as the foundation for their relationship.
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Keep reading.
Hint verse 20
Thanks for posting this. I use his videos for his empirical viewpoints and explanations.
THe Trans Trinity has been exposed.
They call it the Blather, Bun and Holy Boast.
Rather cheeky of them.
Weak. I struggle to understand the Trinity and this did not help at all. Then again, maybe it is simply beyond the human mind’s capacity.
Lots of hints in the Old Testament regarding the Most Holy Trinity.
Uh, it’s not a bad translation....see the Greek, available here.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g2305/kjv/tr/0-1/
What do you want to know about the Trinity? Is it God’s nature? Well, that’s what the word translated as Godhead means - God’s divine nature - how He exists.
Here’s a statement : Everything God created is one in three (somehow).
The Universe: Length, Height, Breadth (if not all three, the volume would be ZERO)
Matter: Solid, Liquid, Gas (plasma is an excited state of gas, not a resting state)
Forces: Weak Gravitational, Strong Gravitational, electromagnetic
Electricity: Postive, Negative, Neutral
Time: Past,Present,Future
Atoms: Neutron, Proton, electrons
Life: Plants, Animals, Mankind
Abodes of Man: Earth, Heaven, Hell
Earth: Land, Water, Air
Beings: God, Angels (many types), Mankind
From the Encyclopedia:
V. THE DOCTRINE AS INTERPRETED IN GREEK THEOLOGY.
A. Nature and Personality.
—The Greek Fathers approached the problem of Trinitarian doctrine in a way which differs in an important particular from that which, since the days of St. Augustine, has become traditional in Latin theology. In Latin theology thought fixed first on the Nature and only subsequently on the Persons. Personality is viewed as being, so to speak, the final complement of the Nature: the Nature is regarded as logically prior to the Personality. Hence, because God‘s Nature is one, He is known to us as One God before He can be known as Three Persons. And when theologians speak of God without special mention of a Person, they conceive Him under this aspect. This is entirely different from the Greek point of view. Greek thought fixed primarily on the Three distinct Persons: the Father, to Whom, as the source and origin of all, the name of God (theos) more especially belongs; the Son, proceeding from the Father by an eternal generation, and therefore rightly termed God also; and the Divine Spirit, proceeding from the Father through the Son. The Personality is treated as logically prior to the Nature. Just as human nature is something which the individual man possesses, and which can only be conceived as belonging to and dependent on the individual, so the Divine Nature is something which belongs to the Persons and cannot be conceived independently of Them.
The contrast appears strikingly in regard to the question of creation. All Western theologians teach that creation, like all God‘s external works, proceeds from Him as One: the separate Personalities do not enter into consideration. The Greeks invariably speak as though, in all the Divine works, each Person exercises a separate office. Irenaeus replies to the Gnostics, who held that the world was created by a demiurge other than the supreme God, by affirming that God is the one Creator, and that He made all things by His Word and His Wisdom, the Son and the Spirit (Adv. hoer., I, xxii; II, iv, 4, 5, xxx, 9; IV, xx, 1). A formula often found among the Greek Fathers is that all things are from the Father and are effected by the Son in the Spirit (Athanasius, “Ad Serap.”, I, xxxi; Basil, “De Spiritu Sancto”, n. 38; Cyril of Alexandria, “De Trin. dial.”, VI, P.G., LXXV, 1053). Thus, too, Hippolytus (Con. Noet., x) says that God has fashioned all things by His Word and His Wisdom, creating them by His Word, adorning them by His Wisdom (panta gap ta genomena dia logou kai sophia de kosmon). The Nicene Creed still preserves for us this point of view. In it we still profess our belief “in one God the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth… and in one Lord Jesus Christ… by Whom all things were made … and in the Holy Ghost“.
Now as far as creation existing of three is a fun, interesting talk for children, but it is only coincdence one reads into.
God created ONLY 2 genders... lol.. Male/Female... Night/Day
Even the Quarkiness of quantum physics upended the generally accepted 3 atomic particle structure.
But it is a fun thing to think about, but just coincidence.
As far as what I consider ANY "Looseness" of translation..
is really just trying to read back into ancient writing- in such explicit attempts-
to define for the ancient- that which develop and become engrained over in 1900 years of Christianity- as to then imply original or different meaning.
Our knowledge today, scriptural and traditional, offer us so much more depth than considered in those first days.
And thats a good thing...
Its so tempting to put our world back into that time as to feel the attachment, as if we lived then, but that is just emotion...
In the end...
"The best Bible translation is always the one you read.."
God made 2 genders? You base that on an incomplete reading of scripture, and a “human” understanding of mankind, my friend.
God created humankind MALE and FEMALE, in our bodies. The angels, and indeed our glorified bodies will be/are something different. Mat 22:29-31
There will be no marriage in heaven, neither will there be reproduction.
Once again, God created beings with three options (male, female, and nether).
It takes awhile to wrap you thinking around this because in our world, neuter is a negative - it’s effectively removing a male from being a male.
We will be like the angels. Note however, the fallen angels took on the male gender. (Nephilium).
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