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Good Friday Gaslighting
The Remnant Newspaper ^ | March 21, 2024 | Fr. Celatus

Posted on 03/22/2024 3:24:13 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: Big Red Badger

No, I remember Herod wanting Jesus to walk across it.
That was 1975 or 76. To this day, it’s one of my favorite musicals. I remember how controversial it was at the time.


21 posted on 03/22/2024 8:42:41 PM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: Big Red Badger
"God did it."

Yes, but that doesn't absolve the culpability and guilt of the actors who killed Jesus. Those actors are foremost the Jewish leadership (Sanhedrin) who demanded Jesus be crucified and secondly the Romans who performed the execution. Pilate initially wanted to free Jesus but was coerced otherwise.

"From then on, Pilate tried to set Jesus free, but the Jewish leaders kept shouting, “If you let this man go, you are no friend of Caesar. Anyone who claims to be a king opposes Caesar.” When Pilate heard this, he brought Jesus out and sat down on the judge's seat at a place known as the Stone Pavement (which in Aramaic is Gabbatha). It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon. “Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews. But they shouted, “Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!” “Shall I crucify your king?” Pilate asked. “We have no king but Caesar,” the chief priests answered. Finally Pilate handed him over to them to be crucified." - John 19:12-16

Jesus makes it clear that the Jews (Sanhedrin) are more guilty than the Romans because they are the ones who demanded His crucifixion.

"Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.” - John 19-11

We need to be honest concerning sin! Whitewashing (gaslighting) Christ's passion and death for the sake of not offending a group (Jews) is wrong! It's a lie!

Both Jew and Gentile need to be saved through Christ's sacrifice - through His precious blood. There is no other way. We do no one any good by lying about the actors responsible for Christ's death. Jews may not like the part their ancestors played. I'm of Italian descent. I won't deny the role the Romans played in crucifying Christ.

Both Jew and Gentile come short of God's glory. We are both born into sin. We are both saved through Christ's sacrifice for our sins. We are all guilty of Christ's death.

Gaslighting truth is a lie!

22 posted on 03/23/2024 5:40:21 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord

We Are All Guilty...
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By His Grace we pass from Death ot LIFE !
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JESUS IS LORD


23 posted on 03/23/2024 7:30:30 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: Fiji Hill
The movie’s script was in Aramaic and Latin.

Which is probably something it got wrong. Romans and Jews in first century Judaea almost certainly would have spoken Greek to each other, not Latin.

Classical Latin of Jesus’ day but in Liturgical Latin, which emerged during the Middle Ages.

Ecclesiastical Latin and Classical Latin are really just two pronunciation styles, both of which were attempts to reconstruct the Latin pronunciation of Cicero's day. Ecclesiastical Latin pronunciation dates back to the English monk Alcuin in the 9th Century, who did his work on a commission from Charlemagne. "Classical" Latin pronunciation was developed by Erasmus in the 16th Century. Latin scholars generally agree that Erasmus got closer to the correct Ciceronian pronunciation.

Obviously it's all reconstruction and educated guesswork, since nobody alive has heard an actual Roman from 2000 years ago speaking Latin.

24 posted on 03/24/2024 3:48:54 PM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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A good source on Latin and other languages is Luke Ranieri's Youtube site Polymathy. In one of his videos, he walks through the streets of Rome speaking only Classical Latin, and the Romans think he's nuts. In another, he visits the Vatican speaking Liturgical Latin, and there he finds some people with whom he can converse.
25 posted on 03/24/2024 4:13:05 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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